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Old December 21st, 2015, 08:30 PM   #3501
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Newly opened station


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Old December 21st, 2015, 08:40 PM   #3502
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Subway systems at the same scale
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http://fakeisthenewreal.org/subway/
that is really a nice comparison.

thanks for sharing.
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Old December 21st, 2015, 08:42 PM   #3503
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Xintiandi Station (Line 13)

http://photo.eastday.com/2013slidesh..._6/index7.html

Middle Huaihai Road Station (Line 13)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...9%E5%8F%B0.JPG

http://photo.eastday.com/2013slidesh..._6/index5.html
West Nanjing Road Station (Line 13)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...7%E5%A3%81.JPG
Shanghai Natural History Museum Station (Line 13)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...6%E7%AB%99.JPG

http://photo.eastday.com/2013slidesh..._6/index3.html
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Old December 21st, 2015, 09:03 PM   #3504
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Hanzhong Road station on lines 12 and 13





Caobao Road station on line 12


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Old December 21st, 2015, 10:10 PM   #3505
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I like how Hanzhong Lu and Nanjing Xilu are adjacent stations on line 12, while on line 13 there is another station (Ziran Bowuguan) between them. I hope there's actually a Natural History Museum (which is what 自然博物馆 Ziran Bowuguan translates to) near that station so they don't end up renaming it to Shanhaiguan Lu, much like Hangtian Bowuguan ended up becoming Shendu Gonglu due to the absence of an Aerospace Museum in that location.
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 07:50 AM   #3506
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As I far as I guess for line 12 they keep purchasing bombardier Movia 456 with the larger windscreen. What about line 13?
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 12:53 PM   #3507
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Middle Huaihai Road station is a masterpiece, just like we have here in Moscow. Yet I can't see Xintiandi station pictures, the links do not show the content.
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 02:09 PM   #3508
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Wikipedia says:

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Train sets used by the Metro system:

134 Bombardier Movia 456 six car sets(AC04) - Lines 9, 7 and 12
61 German Shanghai Metro Group (GSMG) six cars units (Coded as AC01 for those using Alternating Current or DC01 for those using Direct Current for Line 1, AC02 for Line 2) – Line 1 and 2 (all reformed to eight car units)
53 Alstom Metropolis eight car sets(Coded as AC06) – Line 1 and 2
16 Alstom Metropolis four car sets(AC06) - Section of Line 2
17 Alstom Metropolis four car sets - Line 5
21 Alstom Metropolis four car sets(AC06) - Line 6
28 Alstom Metropolis six car or seven car sets - Line 8
29 CNR Changchun Railway Vehicles Co., Ltd. four car sets - line 6
38 CNR Changchun Railway Vehicles Co., Ltd. seven car sets - line 8
28 Alstom Metropolis six car sets(AC03) – Line 3
86 Siemens & CSR Zhuzhou six car sets(AC05) - Line 4 and 11
41 Shanghai Electric-Alstom/Nanjing Puzhen Rolling Stock Co., Ltd. six car sets – Line 10
24 Nanjing Puzhen Rolling Stock Works six car sets - Line 13
46 Siemens & CSR Zhuzhou three car sets - Line 16
How come it might be AC06 for line 2 and line 6 since these are two extremely different trains?

Is there anywhere a table of ALL models and modifications of all metro trains in China since they are SO numerous?
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Old January 5th, 2016, 06:21 AM   #3509
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On New Year's day the Shanghai metro reached a new ridership record of 10.83 million daily riders.

Breakdown by line:

Line 1: 1.41 million
Line 2: 1.75 million
Line 3: 600,000
Line 4: 890,000
Line 5: 170,000
Line 6: 450,000
Line 7: 800,000
Line 8: 1.08 million
Line 9: 970,000
Line 10: 860,000
Line 11: 800,000
Line 12: 540,000
Line 13: 340,000
Line 16: 180,000

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Old January 5th, 2016, 08:01 PM   #3510
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And Edmonton still can't fix the signal problem on the 3.3km Metro Line LRT.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 09:25 PM   #3511
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And Edmonton still can't fix the signal problem on the 3.3km Metro Line LRT.
Or Toronto still hasn't had a meaningful and/or useful subway extension for the majority of time the Shanghai Metro existed.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 11:28 PM   #3512
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Tell that to Glasgow. They opened their circle line in 1886... and it has not expanded since.

Anyway, look at line 8. Third busiest line of Shanghai metro... and it runs C Type trains!!!
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Old January 5th, 2016, 11:54 PM   #3513
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On New Year's day the Shanghai metro reached a new ridership record of 10.83 million daily riders.

Breakdown by line:

Line 1: 1.41 million
Line 2: 1.75 million
Line 3: 600,000
Line 4: 890,000
Line 5: 170,000
Line 6: 450,000
Line 7: 800,000
Line 8: 1.08 million
Line 9: 970,000
Line 10: 860,000
Line 11: 800,000
Line 12: 540,000
Line 13: 340,000
Line 16: 180,000

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What's the waiting time between trains in the Line 2? I guess it's a balanced line, with people going in both directions, otherwise it couldn't manage so many people.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 01:31 AM   #3514
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What's the waiting time between trains in the Line 2? I guess it's a balanced line, with people going in both directions, otherwise it couldn't manage so many people.
3 min headway but the line is also 60km long.
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There are two lines that are called "Line 2." It's confusing, and I think the stats cited by saiho add to the confusion.

The two lines meet at Guanglan Road.
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3 min headway but the line is also 60km long.
I see. The busiest lines in São Paulo works with 100 seconds headway.

Line 3 (Red), running from east/west, is 22km long, has 18 stations and handle 1.3 million daily. It's not well balanced: people live in the dense eastern districts and come to work Downtown and the upmarket business districts in West. I guess overcrowding is a bigger problem in SP then.
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I see. The busiest lines in São Paulo works with 100 seconds headway.

Line 3 (Red), running from east/west, is 22km long, has 18 stations and handle 1.3 million daily. It's not well balanced: people live in the dense eastern districts and come to work Downtown and the upmarket business districts in West. I guess overcrowding is a bigger problem in SP then.
Min headway on Lines 1-4 is 2.5 min due constraints of the "old" (original) signaling system. However, it seems the Shanghai Metro authorities really planned out the network and phasing of new lines quite well and most of the network is not too "overcrowded". The extremely congested lines (Lines 3, 5, 6 and 8) are caused by shortsighted engineering mistakes as opposed to not enough lines in the network as exemplified by Sao Pãulo. It seems that just when a line is about to be overcrowded a relief line opens just in time. This is demonstrated by how evenly distributed the ridership is on Shanghai's lines, most downtown trunk lines peak out at 700,000 - 900,000 daily riders.
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Old January 7th, 2016, 06:34 AM   #3518
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There are two lines that are called "Line 2." It's confusing, and I think the stats cited by saiho add to the confusion.

The two lines meet at Guanglan Road.
Eventually they will be a single line. If you go east from Guanglan Road you can see that they've roughed in the platforms for full length trains in the underground stations, so they're obviously planning to eventually run long trains all the way to at least the end of the underground section (Lingkong Road)

AFAIK, Line 5 was originally planned to be a southern extension of Line 1 similar in nature to the eastern extension of Line 2, but politics got in the way and the Minhang District government decided to jump the gun and build it as a much lower capacity elevated line.
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Old January 7th, 2016, 06:39 AM   #3519
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Min headway on Lines 1-4 is 2.5 min due constraints of the "old" (original) signaling system. However, it seems the Shanghai Metro authorities really planned out the network and phasing of new lines quite well and most of the network is not too "overcrowded". The extremely congested lines (Lines 3, 5, 6 and 8) are caused by shortsighted engineering mistakes as opposed to not enough lines in the network as exemplified by Sao Pãulo. It seems that just when a line is about to be overcrowded a relief line opens just in time. This is demonstrated by how evenly distributed the ridership is on Shanghai's lines, most downtown trunk lines peak out at 700,000 - 900,000 daily riders.
It's pretty silly that such a new system as Shanghai's was able to make such boneheaded moves as the shared section of Line 3, the short platforms of Line 5, and the narrow trains of Lines 6 and 8, but at least they do seem to be working to fix these issues as best they can. I've heard they'll be lengthening the platforms of Line 5 to handle 6 car trains, adding additional tracks to the shared section of Line 3/4, and adding longer and more trains to Lines 6 and 8, but it certainly would have been nice if they'd built these lines correctly in the first place.

Still, the overall design isn't bad, and there are multiple lines going in similar directions that keeps the overall passenger load on each line at a bearable level. I'd hate to see the passenger load on Line 2 without Lines 9 and 10, for example.
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Line 13 and 12 performing well as relief lines



Congested sections of Line 1 and 2 was greatly reduced. Ridership on Lines 4, 8 and 10 down by ~5% but I'm pretty sure latent demand will soon fill up the newly freed capacity.

People's Square Station saw a decrease of 10 to 13% in ridership. Apparently the ridership of People's Square before the extensions of Lines 12 and 13 is over 700,000 people per day.

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