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Old February 15th, 2016, 08:38 AM   #3581
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6*4-car-(B)train for Pudong International Airport MRT
30*5-car-train for Songjiang Tram lines
I missed that though. What MRT is meant here and how long will be the line?

How long will be the tram trains in Songjiang?
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Old February 15th, 2016, 10:46 AM   #3582
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These are the lines (with color) that built from 2015~2020 , and the next phrase of lines are planning , so you can figure out that many trains are needed .
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Old February 15th, 2016, 12:36 PM   #3583
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I missed that though. What MRT is meant here and how long will be the line?

How long will be the tram trains in Songjiang?


First phrase of Songjiang Tram map , consist of two lines T1 and T2 . Length of 29.8km(T1,14.4km ; T2,14.9km) , 39 stations in total .

The trains of this two line will made by Alstom .
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Old February 15th, 2016, 03:24 PM   #3584
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I missed that though. What MRT is meant here and how long will be the line?
It means " the train that link terminals in the Airport ” , I don't what it really called in English... . The Auto People Mover ?
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Old February 15th, 2016, 04:44 PM   #3585
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New trains for line3/4

Photoed by @杨胖胖不瘦

This kind of train is made by CRRC Changchun Railway Vehicles Co., Ltd (中车长春轨道客车股份有限公司)

With the amount of 35 , 9 for line 3 , 26 for line 4. This type of train will release the pressure of both line 3 and line 4 . It still have no name(like AC09) . So rail fans in China called it "包公" , Baogong , because of it black face. (wiki page of Baogong)



paper strip map shows stations of line 3 (yellow) and line 4 (purple)
It will running on both lines.


The yellow seats in the purple seats highlight the priority area for the elderly , pregnant women , disabled person or the other who need help.


Also , LCD screens in the train shows passengers where they are .


The exterior , the yellow and purple line on the trains imply that she will run both lines . And the number "0331" on the face means : "03"=line 3, "31"= the 31st train of line 3.

As for "Baogong" in line 4 , the train number will goes “429~454”


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the "passage" of two cars (what it called in English??) , the sticker of the right side shows you that this is a line 3 service .


The wheels , and I don't know what's the numbers which follow "03" mean.


Full image of the train , it looks modern . And you can see the purple Shanghai metro logo on the right of it's head .
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I guess more cars per train would settle the matter more efficiently.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 01:14 AM   #3587
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Are there so many "gaps" on the Rube with no coverage?
You kidding me haha, the entire tube system that are underground has no signal coverage whatsoever. This is why you would still see many passengers who read newspapers in the tube.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 12:58 PM   #3588
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I guess more cars per train would settle the matter more efficiently.
But only the platforms of line 1/2/8 have space for more cars per train (8-car for line 1\2 ; 7-car for line 8) . The other lines could upgrade the capacity only by shorten the waiting time for next train.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 07:21 PM   #3589
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OK, now that sounds a bit more reasonable but will that mean headways will no be very small, just like we do here in Moscow? Some 85 - 90 seconds between trains during rush hour and some 2 - 3 min in other time?

What major extensions do you mean for lines like 9 and 10 for example? I mean there will be an extension but still 30 EMUs more per each sounds a huge figure it is almost twice as much there are on these lines now. Okay, I can get it for line 10 since headways there now are awful but line 9 is quite well served + it won't have a very long extension.

I hope though Shanghai will have really decent headways and not only during rush hour.
Based on the current operating regimen of short turns to get the existing Line 9 from 3-3.5 min to a 2 min frequency in the busy section and 6 mins to 4 mins in the suburban section they will need about 21 more trainsets. The eastern extension on 2 mins headway up to will require 7 more. So to operate the full Line 9 line at 2 min / 4 min (urban / suburban) frequencies Shanghai Metro will need to buy about 30 trains. They bought 36, the additional are probably for reserve extras and maintenance cycle headroom. To run the entire Line 9 at 90-second headways, you need a total fleet of about 118 trains. So no, the current order is to get the line down to 2 mins in the central section and 4 mins elsewhere.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 08:35 PM   #3590
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It means " the train that link terminals in the Airport ” , I don't what it really called in English... . The Auto People Mover ?
Automatic People Mover (APM) the Airport MRT is a APM system between the terminals of the Pudong Airport. It will not be a part of the Shanghai Metro System.



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250 km expansion planned for Shanghai

Source: Shanghai Daily | February 18, 2016

Shanghai plans to extend its Metro network further by 40 percent from 2017 to 2025, the city’s development and reform commission said.

According to the plan, nine Metro lines, stretching 250 kilometers, will be constructed during the eight-year period.

The plan has been put up for environmental evaluation.

The city's Metro network currently stretches 617 kilometers, including 29 kilometers of maglev line with 366 stations.

Earlier reports said the south extension of Line 5, the third phase of Line 8, third phase of Line 9 and Line 17 are expected to be put into service by the end of 2017; the second phase of Line 10, Line 13 (from Changqing Road to Zhangjiang Road) will be put into operation by the end of 2018; while Line 14, 15 and 18 are expected to launch by the end of 2020.
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Old February 19th, 2016, 08:48 PM   #3592
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But only the platforms of line 1/2/8 have space for more cars per train (8-car for line 1\2 ; 7-car for line 8) . The other lines could upgrade the capacity only by shorten the waiting time for next train.
Actually the fact that almost every station on Line 3 is not underground means that a relatively cheap platform extension and alterations to maintenance and storage yards can allow for 8 A cars to run. They can run mixed 6A and 8A stock on the joint section between Lines 3/4. They are already doing platform extensions to Line 5 to allow 6C rolling stock. They would also be able to do it to Line 6 if it was built 100% elevated like originally planned. Alas Line 6 will remain to be the fail of the Shanghai Metro on many fronts.
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Old February 20th, 2016, 11:55 AM   #3593
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Source: Shanghai Daily | February 18, 2016

Shanghai plans to extend its Metro network further by 40 percent from 2017 to 2025, the city’s development and reform commission said.

According to the plan, nine Metro lines, stretching 250 kilometers, will be constructed during the eight-year period.

The plan has been put up for environmental evaluation.

The city's Metro network currently stretches 617 kilometers, including 29 kilometers of maglev line with 366 stations.

Earlier reports said the south extension of Line 5, the third phase of Line 8, third phase of Line 9 and Line 17 are expected to be put into service by the end of 2017; the second phase of Line 10, Line 13 (from Changqing Road to Zhangjiang Road) will be put into operation by the end of 2018; while Line 14, 15 and 18 are expected to launch by the end of 2020.
This is consistent with what I've read lately. It appears they have revised their plans, and now they include several commuter rail lines, including one that kills line 19. The number is reused for a new North-South line that will run through Lujiazui and was formerly planned as line 24, before it took over the planned Line 2 branch to Disney.
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Shanghai 2025 Metro Plan

Looks like Line 14 will not be the last downtown line.



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What's with the lines that aren't numbered? Not subway lines?
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What's with the lines that aren't numbered? Not subway lines?
They will be built as commuter lines.
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At last, line 22 is back! As one of the sections former line 16 has been split, along with lines 19 (for one stop), 20 and 23, with line 20 also getting part of former line 17 (with Jiading-Minhang, or Jiamin, line getting another section, with the middle section scrapped). And the new line 21 has absorbed former line 24. Xujiahui is going to be a massive interchange station with 5 lines (1, 9, 11, 23 and 25).

It appears they have added several railway/commuter rail lines, too.
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It looks fantastic. But imho they should plan more lines to relieve the overcrowded lines within the city centre. More lines crossing the inner network. You still have to walk a long way before reaching any metro stop at many points of the city centre. So why not adding more and more lines.
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Looks like Line 14 will not be the last downtown line.



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Blue line, is it MagLev line extension to Hongqiao?
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