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Old November 3rd, 2007, 02:14 PM   #601
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Yeah... so fast that they still refuse to implement four track express service in their subways

Why should they? Just because NY hat it Shanghai must have it as well? China might have better solutions that will be implemented in the future, what do you know?
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Old November 4th, 2007, 03:13 AM   #602
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Yeah... so fast that they still refuse to implement four track express service in their subways
Stop talking bollocks, there is no other large scale metro in the world that has express service like NY. Think of it as a unique feature.
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Old November 4th, 2007, 06:26 AM   #603
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New Metro transfer stations push Pudong closer to Puxi
3 November 2007
Shanghai Daily

Public transport between Pudong and Puxi will become much easier with two two-line transfer stations and two three-line stations being added to the Metro system by the year's end, the city's Metro construction authority announced yesterday.

The four new stations are part of the 68 new stations and 96 kilometers of line due to be up and running by the end of the year, the Shanghai Shentong Metro Group, the city's key Metro manager, said yesterday.

Overall the city will have eight lines covering 236 kilometers of track and 163 stations including 14 transfer stations.

The new stations due to be completed soon are the Xizang Road S Station which will allow transfers between the Metro lines 4 and 8, and the Lancun Road Station, between Metro lines 4 and 6.

The People's Square Station, which currently allows transfers between Metro lines 1 and 2, will be met by Metro Line 8. The Century Avenue Station, now allowing transfers between Metro lines 2 and 4, will be met by Metro Line 6.

The new subway lines for this year will include Metro Line 6, the first phase of 8 and 9, plus the last section of Metro Line 4 and the northern extension of Line 1.

Construction of the last four stations of Metro Line 4 - including Luban Road Station, Xizang Road S Station, Nanpu Bridge Station and Tangqiao Station - suffered a cave-in in 2003 which has delayed the opening.

By 2010, Shanghai will have 11 Metro lines, covering 400 kilometers. About 50 percent of its daily 400,000 passengers during the World Expo period (May 1 to October 31, 2010) are expected to use Metro as their major means of transport, Shentong officials said.

Currently, the city's 140-kilometer Metro network handles 16 percent of the city's overall public transport volume.
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Old November 4th, 2007, 06:27 AM   #604
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Hub right on track, now for the Maglev
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It's all system go for Shanghai's new transport hub near Hongqiao International Airport, but an extended Maglev line remains the stumbling block, project officials said yesterday.

The hub, planned to the west of the airport, will include the terminal of the new Shanghai-Beijing high-speed rail link, at least two Metro stations and dozens of bus stops, they said.

However, the city government is still considering whether to extend the magnetic Maglev line from Longyang Road Station to the new transport hub or even further.

"The uncertainty of the Maglev extension might affect the construction of the entire transport hub," an official of the hub project, who asked for anonymity, said yesterday.

He said the two Metro stations, lines 2 and 10, will be built beneath the Shanghai-Beijing railway station for passenger transfer by 2010.

Eventually, there will be five Metro lines entering the hub.

As the Maglev plan is undecided, project managers are still considering whether to leave a vacant Maglev area near the railway station.

"It will be a demanding job for us to calculate the size and position of that vacancy," he said.

China has set up a leadership team to oversee the construction of the Shanghai-Beijing high-speed rail link which is expected to begin soon to ensure its operation for World Expo 2010 in Shanghai.

The new rail link, totalling 1,318 kilometers, will reduce the travel time between China's two major cities from 12 hours to under five as the new trains are expected to run up to 350 kilometers per hour.

More than 80 percent of the railway, which includes 21 stations, will be laid on elevated girders and equipped with special devices to reduce noise and minimize disruption to residents living near the line.

Beijing-based media also reported that major domestic banks - including China Construction Bank, Bank of China and the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China - are likely to invest 10 billion yuan (US$1.33 billion) each for the railway project.

An investment firm for the project will also be established by the year's end.

Sun Zhang, a professor of railway planning of Tongji University, said: "The Maglev extension will be very necessary to alleviate traffic for the World Expo."
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Apparently the Line 4 Nanpu Bridge Station will have a unique layout, with opposite-direction trains on two different levels directly above/below each other. The reason for this design is so that the tunnels will fit between the buttresses holding the bridge up.

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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:18 AM   #608
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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:38 AM   #609
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What is the chinese suppose to mean in that 'Go bananas' banner?? It doesn't make any sense, I don't get it.
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Don't think that's even real. The Chinese characters put together don't make sense.
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That " Go Banana " must be a joke.
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Old November 9th, 2007, 06:57 AM   #612
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One of the Chinese characters is in a different font, looks PS'd.
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Old November 9th, 2007, 07:05 AM   #613
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Apparently the Line 4 Nanpu Bridge Station will have a unique layout, with opposite-direction trains on two different levels directly above/below each other. The reason for this design is so that the tunnels will fit between the buttresses holding the bridge up.

Nothing unique about this layout, there are 3 stations with exactly the same layout here in Taipei.
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That happens in areas with narrow geographical or structural constraints, such as between buildings, under roads, etc. They exist in quite a few metro systems.
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Apparently the Line 4 Nanpu Bridge Station will have a unique layout, with opposite-direction trains on two different levels directly above/below each other. The reason for this design is so that the tunnels will fit between the buttresses holding the bridge up.
NYC has dozens of stations like this including ones where there is a different service across the platform such as 7th Avenue transfer between E, B, and D; 5th Avenue on the E and V line, Queens Plaza N, W, and 7 lines, the entire Central Park West A, B, C, and D lines have this, and many others.

I feel like Shanghai metro even in its master plan lacks adequate coverage because the stations are so far apart. Its trying to take the role of both the suburban rail and metro. But what turns out happening is that it becomes too slow for suburban commuters and its coverage is inadequate for city inhabitants. Why don't they make stations and lines denser closer together and build a separate suburban system?
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As for the sign - apparently it is not Photoshopped, but put up by someone who wanted to make a joke, I guess. Pretty funny.

The track layout in the Nan Pu Bridge station is unique for Shanghai (and probably PRC).
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Old November 10th, 2007, 06:50 PM   #618
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Doesn't London have express service on the Picadilly and Metropolitan lines? Am I mistaken to believe that its the same four track setup as NYC?
Yes the Metropolitan line has four-track from Neasden out to Harrow on the Hill, and some Met trains run fast I believe and can overtake each other as in this video at Wembley Park: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KU0jkwCVmg. The Met used to have four tracking all the way from the center of London, Baker St I believe, but for a lot of the distance thats now used by the more recent Jubilee line and they are segregated, though the Met doesn't stop at all the station the jubilee does so in effect it's an 'express' to the jubilee's 'stoppers' on that section. All the Mets run fast to Neasden, and then the Met trains themselves start to variate from each other (I think).

It's a similar story on the piccadilly/district line between Baron's Court and Acton town, it all used to be part of the District line I believe, four tracked, then the piccadilly was built and took over two tracks and is (almost) completely segregated from the District. But again the piccadilly trains miss out 3 stops so is in effect an 'express' over that section. Also, because the picadilly between Acton Town and Northfields was actaully built as part of the District line, that section of the picadilly line is four tracked, but no variations in stopping patterns apply, so it's in part redundent (though I believe the capacity is used for the depot at Northfields.)
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Yes the Metropolitan line has four-track from Neasden out to Harrow on the Hill, and some Met trains run fast I believe and can overtake each other as in this video at Wembley Park: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KU0jkwCVmg. The Met used to have four tracking all the way from the center of London, Baker St I believe, but for a lot of the distance thats now used by the more recent Jubilee line and they are segregated, though the Met doesn't stop at all the station the jubilee does so in effect it's an 'express' to the jubilee's 'stoppers' on that section. All the Mets run fast to Neasden, and then the Met trains themselves start to variate from each other (I think).

It's a similar story on the piccadilly/district line between Baron's Court and Acton town, it all used to be part of the District line I believe, four tracked, then the piccadilly was built and took over two tracks and is (almost) completely segregated from the District. But again the piccadilly trains miss out 3 stops so is in effect an 'express' over that section. Also, because the picadilly between Acton Town and Northfields was actaully built as part of the District line, that section of the picadilly line is four tracked, but no variations in stopping patterns apply, so it's in part redundent (though I believe the capacity is used for the depot at Northfields.)
Don't forget NR lines, C2C is an 'express' between Barking and Upminster on the District. And NR lines between Queen's Park and Harrow & Wealdstone.
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Of course, but the NR lines are not technically part of the 'metro' that is LUL.
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