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Old February 25th, 2008, 07:00 PM   #861
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Maybe one further station will be added to Line 8 this year, according to some sources. The local government always makes announcements only weeks ahead of the formal openning.

Besides, we are suffering a shortage of trains - the central government wants to curb the overheat of the economy and the local public expenditure.
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Old March 4th, 2008, 02:42 PM   #862
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Subway construction hits 'extreme level'
By Cao Li (China Daily)
Updated: 2008-01-28 08:55


Mayor Han Zheng has expressed concern over the safety of expanding Shanghai's subway, amid calls for a larger network and following the latest snag on one of its lines.


Han said over the weekend that the construction and operation of the city's subway system are reaching "an extreme level", with seven lines, either being started or extended, scheduled to take place this year.


A total of 116 subway stations along these lines are also being built, which will affect transportation on more than 1,000 roads,


"As a result, the city's traffic will face tough times," Han said.


The mayor said he has received numerous requests for a larger subway network, from delegates at the ongoing meetings of the Shanghai municipal people's congress and the Shanghai municipal committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC).


"But with so much work being carried out at the same time and long lengths of new tracks being put into use, both the construction and operation of Shanghai's subway have reached an extreme level," Han warned.


"I am really worried about its safety."


His warnings follow the latest major hitch in the system, where a train on Line 2, connecting the west and east banks of Huangpu River, broke down in the middle of two stations at about 8:40 am on Friday. Operations were suspended for about 45 minutes.


Bu Chunyan, a journalist who was in the train, said: "It was all dark and there was no ventilation. People were scared and a woman said she was suffocating.


"Some broke the door and the ceiling by force to let in some air."


Bu said that the subway system will need to have better provisions for emergencies and accidents. "What if there is a fire," she said.


With three more lines added on December 29, Shanghai's subway system currently covers 234 km, the 7th largest in the world.


The network is scheduled to be 510 km long by 2012, when 73 percent of downtown residents within the Inner Ring Road and 47 percent within the Outer Ring Road can walk to a metro station.


The system has reportedly been plagued by frequent delays and complaints of unbearable crowds, especially on Lines 4 and 8 during peak periods.


Han said the system will be strained this year and the first half of next year.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 01:43 AM   #863
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They want a larger plan? 970 km isn't big enough for them?!?!

Shanghai doesn't need a larger subway system. It needs a commuter rail network.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 04:32 AM   #864
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970 km?!?

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Old March 6th, 2008, 11:35 AM   #865
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a cute shanghai metro map. (12/07)



http://www.johomaps.com/as/china/sha...ghaimetro.html
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Old March 7th, 2008, 07:56 PM   #866
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Latest news shows the length of Shanghai Metro Line has reached 234km, ranked as the 7th of the world.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #867
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Never saw this one before, shows the 21 line plan for 2020.



You can compare with the previous most updated map we knew (huge):
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1...1491fb0em3.gif

Some changes:
In the new map line 19 is gone, so there are 20 lines instead of 21, but they didn't move the numbering. Now, line 19 is simply missing. They just merged it with the line 9.

Now we can see 10 stations for line 20, we could only see 3 in the previous version. No idea wether they enlarged the line or just added stations along the previous plan, the resolution is too low.

I'd keep looking for more changes, but I don't want to go blind.
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Old April 18th, 2008, 01:53 PM   #868
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Metro Line 12 under starter's orders in Shanghai
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-04/...ent_7987512.htm
www.chinaview.cn 2008-04-16 11:21:49 Print

BEIJING, April 16 -- Shanghai is to start construction of Metro Line 12 this year, an arterial line that will incorporate 14 transfer stations, the Shanghai Metro Construction Headquarters announced yesterday.

The city is also to add more trains and install more bank ATMs and other commercial outlets at Metro stations.

"The Metro Line 12 will improve the city's efficiency of Metro network operation," said Huang Gang, an official of the headquarters.

Huang said the city government plans to start preliminary construction of the 39.5-kilometer line by the end of the year and the entire project is expected to be up and running by 2012.

The new line will connect Qixin Road Station in Minhang District in the west and Shangchuan Road Station in Pudong New Area in the northeast.

According to Huang, the line will pass through many emerging key downtown venues, including the Fuxing Island Development Zone of the Eastern Bund, the Caohejing Development Zone, the Northern Bund, the Longhua Tourism Zone and a commercial zone near Shanghai Railway Station.

It will have 32 underground stations, including 14 interchange stations connecting it with most of the city's other Metro lines.

By 2010, the city will have a network of 11 lines totaling 400 kilometers. By 2012, there will be 13 lines totaling 500 kilometers.

Also yesterday, the Shanghai Shentong Metro Group announced an increase in the number of trains this year.

It plans 21 new eight-unit trains for Metro Line 2. Another 20-plus six-unit trains on Line 2 will have additional units added to accommodate more passengers. Overall, 137 new trains will be added before 2010.

The group also plans to install 138 ATMs at 50 stations on Lines 6, 8 and 9 by the end of this month.

Eight banks - including the China Everbright Bank and the Bank of Communications - have signed contracts with Shentong for the ATMs in the Metro to promote commercial development.

Restaurants and stores will also open over the next few months at the stations of the three Metro lines.

(Source: Shanghai Daily)
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Old April 18th, 2008, 02:18 PM   #869
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>>It plans 21 new eight-unit trains for Metro Line 2.
>>Another 20-plus six-unit trains on Line 2
What is meant here?

As fot the 1 st statement, will they purchase a new rolling-stock or increase tht trains' total length? Now, trains have 6 cars.
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Old April 18th, 2008, 10:36 PM   #870
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>>It plans 21 new eight-unit trains for Metro Line 2.
>>Another 20-plus six-unit trains on Line 2
What is meant here?

As fot the 1 st statement, will they purchase a new rolling-stock or increase tht trains' total length? Now, trains have 6 cars.
So if I am interpreting this right, Line 2 will have a total of 41 trains all with 8 car configurations?
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Old April 20th, 2008, 01:11 PM   #871
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They are actually 6-car trains. How will they become 8-car? New rolling stock or longer trains?
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Old April 20th, 2008, 04:35 PM   #872
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It plans 21 new eight-unit trains for Metro Line 2. Another 20-plus six-unit trains on Line 2 will have additional units added to accommodate more passengers. Overall, 137 new trains will be added before 2010.

I think what they are saying is that they will add 21 new 8 car trains...
The 20 or so 6 car trains currently running will add more cars to accomodate more passengers...

So it seems that more cars will be added to the current 6 car trains...
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It plans 21 new eight-unit trains for Metro Line 2. Another 20-plus six-unit trains on Line 2 will have additional units added to accommodate more passengers. Overall, 137 new trains will be added before 2010.

I think what they are saying is that they will add 21 new 8 car trains...
The 20 or so 6 car trains currently running will add more cars to accomodate more passengers...

So it seems that more cars will be added to the current 6 car trains...
That makes sense doesn't it? I mean doesn't line 2 use the same rolling stock as line 1? I know for a fact that those trains are capable of being modified into 8 car trains. That's awesome news! So all of line 2 will use 8 car trains after this modification.

Now my question is, when will Shanghai metro extend its service hours the way they extend their trains? 10 pm is ridiculous. They need to make it at least midnight, but preferably around 1 am or 2 am, if not eventually 24 hr operation.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 11:47 PM   #874
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Guys:
What is the exact number of kilometres of Shanghai metro nowadays?

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Old April 25th, 2008, 03:08 AM   #875
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Guys:
What is the exact number of kilometres of Shanghai metro nowadays?

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234km according to Chinese Wikipedia.
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Old April 25th, 2008, 01:56 PM   #876
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i heard that one more line for shanghai metro is born, line 22!
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Old April 26th, 2008, 01:23 PM   #877
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234km currently is mindboggling and 400km by world expo is staggering 21 lines seems a lot but then again its not for a city the size of shanghai as a whole
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234km currently is mindboggling and 400km by world expo is staggering 21 lines seems a lot but then again its not for a city the size of shanghai as a whole
I mean here's where I totally disagree with Shanghai metro planners. 21 lines is way too much and the reason why it will have 970 km total in 2020 is because the Shanghai metro is doubling as a suburban rail network. But because they use metro standard trains, the suburban, light rail, and subway systems just combine to become one big metro. I think they should instead separate it into three networks:

Massive suburban network (with suburban rail standard trains) with over 2,000*km of track
Decent subway network with no more than 10-12 lines and 400km
Miscellaneous light rail, elevated rail, trams to plug in the gaps

*Suburban rail is much easier to build because they don't need to tunnel or build elevated tracks so 2,000km is very reasonable for a city the size of Shanghai
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How come it will end up as 'the biggest metro in the world' when it is 400km and LU is 408 as it is?

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*Suburban rail is much easier to build because they don't need to tunnel or build elevated tracks so 2,000km is very reasonable for a city the size of Shanghai
Yeah, that's if the areas aren't built-up already... There is a reason why they build underground, you know.

Anyway, the Shanghai Metro probably functions as suburban rail as it is, does Shanghai have suburbs in the Western sense? Western suburbs warrant a less dense suburban rail network.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 11:05 PM   #880
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How come it will end up as 'the biggest metro in the world' when it is 400km and LU is 408 as it is?
Could be for two reasons:

1) "400 km" is really an estimate, and the network would actually get (slightly) larger (say 409...);

2) they're only talking of 'the biggest metro network' when all plans are completed. AFAIK, the network should have reached a length of approx. 800 kms by then...now beat that, London!
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