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Old March 7th, 2009, 07:23 PM   #1121
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Just one station every 900m?
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Old March 7th, 2009, 08:17 PM   #1122
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That's in all of the urban agglomeration. The station density inside the ring ("city center") will surely by much much higher.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 03:25 PM   #1123
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Yes, this is correct. All lines that go under the "Shanghai Metro" brand are metro.
You've cleared a long time confusion of me by this answer. Thank you endlessly. long live Shanghai metro.

Is Shanghai planning to return its tram?
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Old March 8th, 2009, 03:38 PM   #1124
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There's already a tram line under construction in Zhangjiang. If it's successful I'm sure trams/lightrail will start replacing some of the busiest trolley/bus lines in the city.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 06:23 PM   #1125
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A tram seems pretty oldfashioned idea and a step back for such city like Shanghai, with that many subway lines and even more to come... unless it will be fast-tram or premetro, but the regular one is slow and expensive solution imo.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 08:36 PM   #1126
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It all depends on the extent of priority given to the trams (a statement like"trams are old fashioned" doesn't make any sense). Shanghai transit planners would hardly let the trams fight for space with car/bicycle traffic in the streets, but instead give them very high priority. A pre-metro would be overlapping the dense metro network, and is not an option. Trams would instead ease capacity on the busy bus network (one of the world's largest and busiest) - ie. they would essentially be high capacity bus lines (but on rails, of course) running separated from other traffic.

In any case, no plans have surfaced yet - and the Zhangjiang line will probably serve as an "experiment".
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Old March 9th, 2009, 12:45 AM   #1127
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U mean they plan BRT in Shanghai???
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Old March 9th, 2009, 01:16 AM   #1128
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What? No, I didn't mention BRT in my post.

That being said, it is likely a viable solution for some parts of the city.


EDIT: I noticed in my previous post why you might have thought I was referring to BRT. I edited it now.
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Old March 11th, 2009, 05:06 PM   #1129
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THE interval between trains on Metro Line 6, which runs in the Pudong New Area, will be reduced from the present six minutes to three-and-half minutes by the year's end.

One new carriage will be delivered every month after June and they will put into use immediately they have passed safety tests, the Shanghai Morning Post reported.

The number of trains on the line will be increased from the current 21 to 32 before the Expo.

The Metro is adding more trains and support staff along with a new network operations center as it tries to cope with the boom in commuters.

On March 6 a total of 4.14 million passengers used the system - just short of the record 4.31 million on December 31.




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Old March 16th, 2009, 12:33 AM   #1130
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There's already a tram line under construction in Zhangjiang. If it's successful I'm sure trams/lightrail will start replacing some of the busiest trolley/bus lines in the city.
So, like Tianjin, Shanghai will also return its tram, and also like rubber-tired tram like Tianjin?

Will this modern tram open in March 2009?
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Old March 16th, 2009, 08:32 PM   #1131
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New trams to turn red lights green
By Ni Yinbin | 2009-2-17

TRAMS in Pudong's Zhangjiang area will be fitted with an auto-sensor system which will turn traffic lights green as they approach when the service is put into operation later this year.

The first batch of trams has arrived in the city and the first-phase of construction will be finished in May.

The electric trams will run on a single track with stops in the middle of the street.

Zhang Cailuo, an official with the Zhangjiang administrative commission, said the Shanghai Public Transportation Card can be used on the service once the line is open for business.

The 10-kilometer route will link Zhangjiang High-Tech Park Metro Station on Line 2 to Jinqiu Road in the Zhangjiang Semiconductor Industry Park.

There will be 15 stops to service office buildings, research institutes, universities and residential areas. The service will run daily from 6am to 9pm and each tram will be able to carry 167 passengers.

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Old March 16th, 2009, 09:22 PM   #1132
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There is more info on the Tram line (including map and tram pictures) in the Metro Planning in China thread:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=31956924
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Old March 18th, 2009, 04:16 AM   #1133
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Like Buenos Aires, Pyongyang, Istanbul & Tianjin, Shanghai also proved that metro is not a complete solution of the traffic jam. Return of tram as reserved track modern tram is the ultimate way to be a real green city. Hats off Shanghai.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 05:23 AM   #1134
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Lohr must have spent allot bribing big chairs in Shanghai. They're system is expensive, vulnerable to derailing and crap for raiders.

Worst part, the type of rail that they're using only supports vehicles built by them selves. Which will be a pain 20 years down the road when Shanghai wants to choose a new vehicle.

The single rail also leaves a bigger gap than a normal street car rail. Some poor motorbike might get its wheels caught in the gap and not beable to stop because rubber don't break well on polished metal.

On top of that, the rubber tires on this thing ride more like a bus than the comfortable smooth ride of a conventional tram/streetcar.


Who decided to buy this thing? Are they builiding it in China or something?


There is a conventional tram manufacture in China why didn't they try it there? Not enough "grey income"?
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Old March 20th, 2009, 06:51 PM   #1135
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Like Buenos Aires, Pyongyang, Istanbul & Tianjin, Shanghai also proved that metro is not a complete solution of the traffic jam. Return of tram as reserved track modern tram is the ultimate way to be a real green city. Hats off Shanghai.
Unfortunately, there's not much tram in Tianjin...only one line, far from the city center, and no plans for expansion. They are mostly focusing on metro expansion; right now there is only two lines operational.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 11:20 PM   #1136
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Created: 2009-3-23 0:42:01

THE Metro operator will install platform screen doors at Line 2 of Peopleís Square.

The safety work will start by the end of April and be completed and put into operation by the end of May.
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Changxing Metro link by 2020
Created: 2009-4-7
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SHANGHAI'S second-largest island, Changxing, currently home to nearly 100,000 people, will have the city's first Metro island link by 2020, Metro constructors said yesterday.

Shanghai has planned another 13 Metro projects - eight new lines and five extensions - to begin construction from 2010 to 2020.

The completion of those and ongoing projects would more than triple the length of the current network, from 234 to 877 kilometers, Metro constructors said.

The projects and their planned routes have been posted on Chinese Website www.envir.gov.cn to get public opinion about possible environmental impacts, which will be considered in the projects' appraisals.

Some of the new projects are also waiting approval by central government.

The planned first phase of Metro Line 19 will travel from the Jinqiao area of Pudong to Changxing Island via the tunnel being built as part of the Yangtze River Tunnel-Bridge Project, which is due to open to vehicle traffic by May. The Metro will be extended to Chongming Island with the bridge part of the project.

Another planned project is the extension of Line 5 from the Hongqiao Integrated Transport Hub - which will handle Metros, high-speed trains and buses accessing the airport - to Xinzhuang, a major residential area in the southwest of the city.

The Metro network currently has eight lines but another three will open when the Shanghai World Expo opens in May next year.




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excellent updates!!!
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Some pics of the Zhangjiang Tram rolling stock:










More at: http://dp.pconline.com.cn/photoblog/...15436&pageNo=4
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Honestly, it was a stupid move on Shanghai's part with using Lohr's technology. They should of went with Bombardier and build a proper lrt system.
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