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Old May 5th, 2009, 11:55 PM   #1141
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The Zhangjiang line is merely a "test-line" to evaluate the technology. It's not like Shanghai has ordered equipment for a citywide system from Lohr. The city might very well end up with other technology in the long run.

Btw, I have a hard time believing we'll ever see a proper "LRT" (as in completely grade separated etc.) system in Shanghai. The tram lines will rather function as supplement to the overcrowded trolley-/bus system
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Old May 6th, 2009, 07:14 AM   #1142
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we'll see. I find it hard to see how a tram would fit nicely into a Chinese city. Some of the culture sees it as a type of backward thing.

At least for now, most major city centers can justify the need for full fledged subways. Let's see what happens to the suburbs and medium and minor cities.
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Old May 6th, 2009, 09:41 AM   #1143
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we'll see. I find it hard to see how a tram would fit nicely into a Chinese city. Some of the culture sees it as a type of backward thing.

At least for now, most major city centers can justify the need for full fledged subways. Let's see what happens to the suburbs and medium and minor cities.
"Chinese city" is the one I'd try to avoid generalizing, as Shanghai for example, it's a metropolis geographically bigger than Greater London, there are all levels of transport system you could find in some small countries in this so called "city".

staff is right, Zhangjiang tram line is not part of city-wise core network like Metro system, it only serve for local town in Zhangjiang hi-tec park area as supplement or replacement to local bus lines.

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Old May 8th, 2009, 12:35 PM   #1144
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Are there any plans to build further TRADITIONAL tram lines ?
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Old May 9th, 2009, 07:40 AM   #1145
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Are there any plans to build further TRADITIONAL tram lines ?
Yeah should have one along the Bund to connect to subway stations nearby to facilitate accessibility. Not to mention it would fit the architecture and ambiance perfectly
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Old May 14th, 2009, 10:05 PM   #1146
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Yeah should have one along the Bund to connect to subway stations nearby to facilitate accessibility. Not to mention it would fit the architecture and ambiance perfectly
That is only on the talking. Right now the Bund is undergoing through a tunnel digging frenzy to build an underground express motorway. For this purpose they even demolished the off ramp from the east-west viaduct, the so called Asia's number one curve
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Old June 7th, 2009, 03:28 AM   #1147
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http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/arti...cle_403242.htm
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2009-6-6 | NEWSPAPER EDITION

SOME of the stations on the four Metro lines being built will be decorated with artwork featuring traditional Shanghai architecture or famous figures, the operator said yesterday. The Madang Road station on Line 9 will also incorporate shikumen lane-house design into its building.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 04:41 PM   #1148
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are there any news about the extension of the maglev to the Hongqiao airport?

Or hast it been dropped, because they build a conventional metro line to connect the two airports?
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Old June 7th, 2009, 04:53 PM   #1149
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The project was (temporarily?) scrapped in 2007 due to NIMBY protests, but discussions are still on. This is the latest news about the project that I've been able to find:


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SHANGHAI -- The magnetic levitation train project linking two airports in Shanghai is still under experts' discussion and appraisal, Mayor Han Zheng told a press conference in Shanghai Saturday.

The 31.8-km maglev train line, linking the two international airports in Pudong and Hongqiao, is part of the infrastructure network in Shanghai, Han said.

However, the construction was shelved in May 2007 due to radiation concerns from residents living near the railway. The project met with fierce opposition last year.

"Experts from the country have been evaluating the project since last year," Han said.

He promised the government would solicit public opinions when the experts produced a conclusion.

Construction of another much-discussed maglev railway in the neighboring Zhejiang Province, which connects the provincial capital Hangzhou and Shanghai, also encountered residents' opposition.

The provincial government announced in August last year that the construction would go ahead in 2010, three years later than the original construction schedule.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 06:57 AM   #1150
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The Maglev would get much higher ridership if it actually went somewhere. That is its biggest problem. I can see it being jam packed if it connected the Hongqiao and Pudong airports.
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The Maglev would get much higher ridership if it actually went somewhere. That is its biggest problem. I can see it being jam packed if it connected the Hongqiao and Pudong airports.
But Metro Line 2 WILL connect the two airports as of next year, and will be much cheaper to ride than any future Maglev connection. I think the municipality should cut its losses and not waste any more money on this overly expensive piece of technology.
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Old June 9th, 2009, 11:56 AM   #1152
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Nice thread, can't wait for that new station near the 古北 Carrefour , the SHanghai metro did wonders for me in terms of transport there, that and the bus system can take you anywhere you want for a pittance.
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The phase 2 of Shanghai Metro Line 8 will commence service this Sunday, July 5th at 8:00 in the morning. Phase 2 is a 15 km extension to phase 1 which commenced service simultaneously with Line 6 and Line 9 on December 29th, 2007. The extension brings the overall length of Line 8 to 37.8km.
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Shangai has a lot of development considering how young the city is.
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The first day of Metro Line 8 phase II extension, eight more stations are added to the new line.


Switching back at Shanghai Aerospace Museum Station which is the new terminus on the Pudong side of Line 8.






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Old July 6th, 2009, 11:22 AM   #1157
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By Dong Zhen | 2009-7-6 | NEWSPAPER EDITION

LIVE TV broadcasting on the Metro was officially launched yesterday morning.

The Metro operator, Shanghai Shentong Metro Group, said it wants to have the system running at all Metro stations and on some Metro trains after trialing it at some locations for nearly six months.

By the end of this year, all the 1,500 LCD screens at station platforms and 5,700 screens on trains will be connected to the network, which will offer live news program from local TV stations as well as Metro operation information, said the Metro manager.

Currently, all platform screens and some carriage screens are covered by the network.

The screens will also broadcast economic news, weather reports, updates on major local news and live road traffic information.
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But Metro Line 2 WILL connect the two airports as of next year, and will be much cheaper to ride than any future Maglev connection. I think the municipality should cut its losses and not waste any more money on this overly expensive piece of technology.
I disagree, the main problem with the Maglev is that it's not practical to take the metro to Longyang Road and then transfer. It's easier to take a taxi all the way there. The popularity of the Maglev would increase hugely if it went to Shanghai South station and Hongqiao airport as planned. That way the maglev will be connecting three of the most important hubs in the city. It would be more practical for those travelling from Shanghai South station, and they could get more passangers if they introduced through tickets for those transfering from intercity rail services. So for example, if you could get a reduced rate on the Maglev by buying a through ticket from Hangzhou direct to Pudong or Hongqiao airports, then I thnink it would be very popular. As for the connection to Hongqiao, yes while most people may still choose to go for the cheaper option of taking line 2 between the two airports, I believe that there would be a large enough number of people for whom speed is more important than cost to make the maglev successful.

You have to remember that while expensive by Chinese standards, by international standards 50RMB is actually quite cheap for a premium high speed service. For comparison the cheapest single ticket on the Heathrow Express (which is a slower train going a shorter distance) costs £16.50 - that's nearly 182RMB, and a first class single costs £26 - or a massive 286.5RMB!!! Most foreign tourists and certainly most foreign business travellers would be prepared to pay 50, or even 100RMB if the maglev actually went somewhere useful!

Given Shanghai's goal of becoming an international business hub to rival Hong Kong and Singapore, they need to provide this kind of infrastructure to serve this kind of market. The maglev would succeed in doing that far better than anything I've seen in any other city in the world.
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Old July 6th, 2009, 09:03 PM   #1159
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Line 7 will open later this year.

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By Dong Zhen | 2009-7-8 | NEWSPAPER EDITION

TRAINS on Line 7, the city's next Metro stretch to be opened in phases, may experience similar short breakdowns that occurred recently on Line 8.

The Metro management company issued the warning yesterday, saying signal testing may again cause minor problems.

However, it said technicians had been studying the series of operational problems on Line 8 and would try their best to curb the possibility of similar incidents on Line 7 when it opened later this year.

During the two weeks before Line 8 opened its second phase for traffic on Sunday, its first phase experienced seven breakdowns, mainly connected to the automatic signal system, which required drivers to take control of trains manually.

This situation was unavoidable and transitional as engineers had to shift the signal system to a new stage in preparation for the integrated operation of both phases, the Metro management company said.

The 35-kilometer Line 7 now under construction will run past downtown districts and the Huangpu River to connect northern Baoshan District and Pudong New Area. It will also stop at the 2010 World Expo site on Pudong side.

The company said Line 7's first phase would be ready for commuters before the end of this year, while its second phase would begin service before World Expo next year.

The first phase will operate between Qihua Road Station in Baoshan District and its terminal at Huamu Road Station in Pudong New Area. The second phase will start from Qihua Road and extend to the planned Meilan Lake Station in the north.

The Metro management firm said yesterday that 20 new trains had arrived in the city and operations testing had already started on six of them.

By yesterday, 65 of Line 7's 97 stations had completed construction.

Workers on Line 8 told Shanghai Daily yesterday that passenger flow on the second phase, running through several new residential towns in Pudong, remained flat in rush hours.

"So far, the rush-hour passenger pressure is still focused on the older phase of Line 8," said a Metro worker surnamed Zhu.

Line 8 management said the second phase was operating smoothly.
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