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Old July 24th, 2009, 08:04 AM   #1181
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China's fastest subway train to run by year end in Shanghai

www.chinaview.cn 2009-07-23 20:25:52 Print

SHANGHAI, July 23 (Xinhua) -- China's fastest subway train, which is running in trial in Shanghai, will become operational at the end of the year, subway managers said Thursday.

The train, with a speed of up to 100 kilometers per hour, will serve on the city's northwest-southeast Line 11 and is expected to cover 46 kilometers across Shanghai's Jiading, Putuo and Changning districts when in operation, said managers of the Shanghai Metro.

The train was manufactured by the Zhuzhou Electric Locomotive Factory Group in Hunan Province, one of China's three major locomotive manufacturers. It borrowed technology from the Germany-based Siemens.

With 250 kilometers of subway lines, Shanghai boasts the most extensive subway system among Chinese cities. The system is expected to exceed 345 kilometers to become the longest in Asia by the end of this year.

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Old July 24th, 2009, 10:08 AM   #1182
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Precisely. The people previously complained about the lack of high-speed transport.

I think that trains with sufficient number of doors routinely manage to plan for 30 second dwell time. The nonstop trip Longyang Road to Pudong, about 35 km, is done in 7 min 30 second. So, how long is the extension from Longyang Road to Hongqiao, how many stops, and how long would the trip take?

If a metro is planned so as to have interchanges with maglev in the few maaglev station, perhaps it could be much faster to, say, take metro 5 km to Longyang Road, travel 7/12 min to Pudong station 35 km away and then travel back 5 km by the same metro line, rather than travel 25 km and as many stops straight by metro...
Planned Hongqiao-Longyang Malgev is 35km, plus current 31 km line, 66km total, it planned to build 3 new station, EXPO Park, Shanghai South Railway Station and Hongqiao Railway Station., plus current Longyang Rd and Pudong Airport, 5 stops at all, but this malgev now seems will not start construction for a long time as the opposite from Ministry of Railway.

But in the future, there will be a 25-minitues rapid transit system between Hongqiao Airport and Pudong Airport, but what it use is still a question, as the metro can be reach this speed if has no stop, also, malgev is easy to reach, and high speed railway is possible ,too. And Pudong Railway is very near Pudong Airport, it can build a branch line to Airport if necessary.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 12:34 PM   #1183
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But in the future, there will be a 25-minitues rapid transit system between Hongqiao Airport and Pudong Airport, but what it use is still a question, as the metro can be reach this speed if has no stop,
66 km in 25 minutes is 160 km/h average. Not really a metro speed. And if it has no stops, it still is less useful that a line with 3 intermediate stops.
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also, malgev is easy to reach, and high speed railway is possible ,too. And Pudong Railway is very near Pudong Airport, it can build a branch line to Airport if necessary.
Maglev has the advantage in that 31 km are ready, it is just extending 35 km. A high-speed railway means all 66 km must be built new.
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Old July 25th, 2009, 03:08 PM   #1184
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66 km in 25 minutes is 160 km/h average. Not really a metro speed. And if it has no stops, it still is less useful that a line with 3 intermediate stops.


Maglev has the advantage in that 31 km are ready, it is just extending 35 km. A high-speed railway means all 66 km must be built new.
I think you are right. So far as I know, Shanghai Municipal government still haven't abandonned the plan, the question is only that how they can smuggle it through under the public scrutiny. The plan is generally in a ver bad light. The opposition does not only come from MOR, but also NIMBYism and ignorant paranoia, which are very high in China for the time being.
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Old July 26th, 2009, 09:57 AM   #1185
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Is it convenient for travellers with luggages to change from maglev to line 2?
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Old July 26th, 2009, 11:09 AM   #1186
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Is it convenient for travellers with luggages to change from maglev to line 2?
nooooo.
the transfer station isn't elevator equipted. so imagine carriying your luggages on stairs and escalators.

plus it's a 5-7 minute walk inbetween.
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Old July 26th, 2009, 11:15 AM   #1187
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nooooo.
the transfer station isn't elevator equipted. so imagine carriying your luggages on stairs and escalators.

plus it's a 5-7 minute walk inbetween.
So there must be a taxi stand at the maglev station for travellers going to Huangpu?
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Old July 26th, 2009, 01:56 PM   #1188
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nooooo.
the transfer station isn't elevator equipted. so imagine carriying your luggages on stairs and escalators.

plus it's a 5-7 minute walk inbetween.
Waht? come on, it sounds like u have to walk several hundred of meters which isnt true.
U get down from Maglev platform and there it is the metro entrance - some 25meters away. I've changed from M2 to maglev 3 weeks ago with luggage and i didnt see it hard or tiring to change! It's very convenient and fast. Forget about taxis!
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Old July 26th, 2009, 09:54 PM   #1189
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Waht? come on, it sounds like u have to walk several hundred of meters which isnt true.
U get down from Maglev platform and there it is the metro entrance - some 25meters away. I've changed from M2 to maglev 3 weeks ago with luggage and i didnt see it hard or tiring to change! It's very convenient and fast. Forget about taxis!
How much luggage do you have? Was the subway too crowded for the luggages? You still have to walk up and down the stairs with luggages.
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Old July 26th, 2009, 10:35 PM   #1190
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Usually they have escalators everywhere - at least as i remember it. I havent used elevators though... but even with luggage u have no problems on metro, the more, coz ppl in shanghai are not that jerks as in beijing (tha latter push into the metro before the others leave the train
i had a trolley-suitcase and a handbag + small backpack.


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Old July 27th, 2009, 05:49 AM   #1191
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The best solution is to bury the Maglev train underground to connect the two airports. Taking Line 2 from one airport to the other would take way too long.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 10:15 AM   #1192
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Maybe it could be a good idea to extend a high-speed railway from Hongqiao through Shanghai to Pudong.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 10:38 AM   #1193
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So there must be a taxi stand at the maglev station for travellers going to Huangpu?
yes.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 10:40 AM   #1194
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Maybe it could be a good idea to extend a high-speed railway from Hongqiao through Shanghai to Pudong.
phase 2 of the maglev was to link the two airports with stops at shanghai south station(rail hub), and a spur to hangchow
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Shanghai subway to be world's longest by 2010

2009-07-28

Shanghai will have the world’s longest subway system in the world by the 2010 World Expo, with 430 kilometers of lines carrying 5.5 million passengers per day, the Shanghai Municipal Transport and Port Authority announced on Tuesday.

In addition, Transport and Port Authority said that by the end of this year, the city will have the third longest system in the world, with 350 kilometers of lines.

Shanghai currently has the most extensive subway system in China, with 250 kilometers split between eight subway lines carrying 4.42 million passengers per day. Ultimately, however, the city plans to build up 11 subway lines before the 2010 World Expo, including three more lines – numbers 7, 10 and 11 – which the city expects to be operational by the end of this year.

By 2010, the subway will carry more than 35 percent of Shanghai’s public transportation passenger volume. In addition, 50 percent of visitors to the World Expo are expected to use the subway as their primary means of transportation through the city.

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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:39 AM   #1196
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A firefighter holds a 1.5-meter crocodile found at the construction site of a Metro Line 10 station on Siping Road early yesterday morning. The reptile was spotted behind an electric switch box with its mouth taped. No one knows where it came from. The reptile will be raised in the Shanghai Zoo.
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Metro Line 3, 4 to get another track

By Dong Zhen | 2009-7-29 | NEWSPAPER EDITION

SHANGHAI urban planners said yesterday that a project to build new rail lines between two busy stations shared by Metro lines 3 and 4 will start around the end of this year.

The scheme, the first step in a bid to double capacity on Line 4, involves building a pair of 2,020-meter elevated tracks near the current line between the Shanghai Railway Station and Baoshan Road station.

The two stations lie on the northern end of the shared route that covers seven other Metro stops and are the busiest in rush hours.

A total of 1 billion yuan (US$146 million) will be spent on building the new elevated tracks and relocating households, said Zhang Anfeng, an official with the Shanghai Urban Planning and Design Research Institute.

"We decided to start the streamlining project with the neediest section to see how well the design could work to help with future construction on the rest of the shared route," Zhang said.

The new tracks will be built to the north of the current ones near the Baoshan Road station by demolishing buildings while there is a vacant site at Shanghai Railway Station.

"When the work is complete, the new set of Metro tracks will still allow traffic to both Line 3 and 4. But with the extra channel, their transport capacity is expected to double," Zhang said.

A similar expansion is planned to reach the southern end of the shared service at Hongqiao Road Station.

Nearly half the 33.7-kilometer circular Line 4 uses the same stations and tracks as the older Line 3, Zhang said.


However, the rapidly increasing traffic on Line 4 has meant it is impossible to increase rush-hour services.
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Old July 31st, 2009, 10:14 AM   #1198
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Thanks for that, staff. I was always wondering about why they couldn't increase the frequency to less than 5 minutes on Line 4 at rush hour, given that the passenger volume has increased dramatically since the full line was opened in December 2007, but I forgot about the interlined section.
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So they are building an extra set of elevated tracks only between baoshan road and railway station? I'm a bit confused as to how this would solve the problem seeing as how any extra capacity would be neutralized because after railway station, they would be channeled back on the two tracks and cause just as bad of a bottleneck.

And wouldn't these extra tracks also be a good opportunity to introduce an express service? Have Line 3 be local and Line 4 express/vice-versa? That stretch definitely needs it.
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