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Old November 23rd, 2008, 12:40 PM   #121
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Naming the lines is not convenient for many passengers, especially foreginers. Giving numbers to lines is the best way to make the system comprehensible.

Byt the way, can anyone post here some more pics of new Shanghai lines, I'd rather see elevated lines or underground ones that look original? Thank you.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 08:01 PM   #122
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Will Shanghai build suburban rail similar to the type they have in Beijing? Because it doesn't seem practical to use conventional metro to reach distant places like Chongming, Nanhui, Fengxian, etc. Wouldn't confining a metro to urban or inner suburban districts and rely on suburban rail to service outlying suburbs?
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 10:45 PM   #123
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I don't see a problem here, they may build several lines across the agglomeration with much larger distances between stations and longer trains (up to 250 m). And these lines may be esily included in the whol mass transit system.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 04:39 AM   #124
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Will Shanghai build suburban rail similar to the type they have in Beijing? Because it doesn't seem practical to use conventional metro to reach distant places like Chongming, Nanhui, Fengxian, etc. Wouldn't confining a metro to urban or inner suburban districts and rely on suburban rail to service outlying suburbs?
Beijing have a suburban rail? which one?
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Old November 24th, 2008, 09:35 PM   #125
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Beijing have a suburban rail? which one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S2_Line...burban_Railway

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_9013624.htm
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Old December 28th, 2008, 10:23 AM   #126
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New peak hour frequencies

line 1: 2m45s (main line) 5m30s ( northern extension)
line 2: 3m09s
line 3: 5m30s (main line) 16m30s( northern extension)
line 4: 5m30s (Outer&Inner circles)
line 5: 4m30s
line 6: 6.5m/13m
line 8: 5m
line 9: 9m58s
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Old December 29th, 2008, 08:43 AM   #127
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Shanghai have a suburban rail line to Jinshang
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Old December 29th, 2008, 11:59 AM   #128
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Record Metro numbers expected

AN estimated 3.92 million passengers a day will send Shanghai's Metro network to its busiest-ever Spring Festival peak next month, Metro operators said yesterday as they announced the ground-breaking for the city's latest Metro project.

The operators said the average daily turnover on the city's eight Metro lines during the 40-day transport peak will reach 3.2 million people, an increase of 15 percent from the same period last year. At peaks, the network could be transporting a record-breaking 3.92 million passengers on a single day.

The busiest service day so far this year fell on September 12 when the Metro network transported 3.9 million travelers - that was the working day before the national holiday in the Mid-Autumn Festival.

Metro operators said they plan to make full use of backup trains to handle the transport peaks and will introduce more services at stations. Attendants on duty by ticket-vending machines will carry small banknotes and coins so they can offer change to passengers to reduce queuing times. Station staff will also carry sick bags - the Spring Festival is a traditional Chinese holiday filled with banquets and drinking.

The construction of Shanghai's newest Metro project, the first phase of Line 13, began yesterday, the Shanghai Metro construction headquarters said. The first phase of Line 13 will stretch to 16.4 kilometers and will create a major new east-west city line from Jiading District to downtown Jing'an. It will run through Putuo and Zhabei.

Line 13's first phase, which is completely underground, will have 14 stations and will be connected with lines 1, 2, 3 and the future lines 7, 11 and 12. Travelers can interchange to other lines from five of Line 13's future stations.

Four new Metro projects will be in service by the end of next year.
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Old December 29th, 2008, 12:49 PM   #129
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The extension of Metro Line 9 opens

Yishan Station on Line 9, which connects to Line 3, opened on December 28.

Line 9 connects Songjiang New Town with Guilin Road in Xuhui District while Line 3 runs between Shanghai South Railway Station in the southwest to Jiangwan Town in the northeast.

A shuttle bus running between Guilin Road Station on Line 9 and Yishan Road Station on Line 3 will be cancelled when the new station opens.


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Old December 29th, 2008, 01:01 PM   #130
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Old December 29th, 2008, 06:52 PM   #131
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Scion;22408836I mean, imagine someone going from North Jiang Yang Rd to Xin Zhuang...how long would that take??
Which I did. Rode the entire length of line 3 from Jiang Yang Rd to Shanghai South RW Station, then walked to line 1. Took about 77 minutes.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 01:19 AM   #132
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Does anyone know when Line 2 will get platform screen doors installed? It seems like the platforms are VERY busy at rush hour on the central stations, and could certainly use to have them installed. Any plans to do so?

Who makes those new Line 9 trains, and what will happen to the Bombardier trains currently used on Line 9?
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Old December 30th, 2008, 02:38 AM   #133
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The new Line 2 screen door project has been commissioned.

The new Line 9 trains are made by Changchun-Bombardier, as the old ones.

The old Changchun-Bombardier rolling stocks are still in the service of Line 9 and will stay.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 04:04 AM   #134
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AN estimated 3.92 million passengers a day will send Shanghai's Metro network to its busiest-ever Spring Festival peak next month, Metro operators said yesterday as they announced the ground-breaking for the city's latest Metro project.

The operators said the average daily turnover on the city's eight Metro lines during the 40-day transport peak will reach 3.2 million people, an increase of 15 percent from the same period last year. At peaks, the network could be transporting a record-breaking 3.92 million passengers on a single day.

The busiest service day so far this year fell on September 12 when the Metro network transported 3.9 million travelers - that was the working day before the national holiday in the Mid-Autumn Festival.

Metro operators said they plan to make full use of backup trains to handle the transport peaks and will introduce more services at stations. Attendants on duty by ticket-vending machines will carry small banknotes and coins so they can offer change to passengers to reduce queuing times. Station staff will also carry sick bags - the Spring Festival is a traditional Chinese holiday filled with banquets and drinking.

The construction of Shanghai's newest Metro project, the first phase of Line 13, began yesterday, the Shanghai Metro construction headquarters said. The first phase of Line 13 will stretch to 16.4 kilometers and will create a major new east-west city line from Jiading District to downtown Jing'an. It will run through Putuo and Zhabei.

Line 13's first phase, which is completely underground, will have 14 stations and will be connected with lines 1, 2, 3 and the future lines 7, 11 and 12. Travelers can interchange to other lines from five of Line 13's future stations.

Four new Metro projects will be in service by the end of next year.
Howcome Shanghai's ridership is lower than Beijing's? Doesn't Shanghai have better coverage, more track length, and larger population?
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Old December 30th, 2008, 04:23 AM   #135
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Wow, services stop really early in Shanghai. Is this only during construction?

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Old December 30th, 2008, 09:51 AM   #136
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New peak hour frequencies

line 1: 2m45s (main line) 5m30s ( northern extension)
line 2: 3m09s
line 3: 5m30s (main line) 16m30s( northern extension)
line 4: 5m30s (Outer&Inner circles)
line 5: 4m30s
line 6: 6.5m/13m
line 8: 5m
line 9: 9m58s
These peak hour frequencies don't seem very good either. I'd expect them for non-peak (although 9m58 is pushing it a bit....) but for a city as big as Shanghai, I'd have thought at least 1 minute frequencies for all lines during peak hour would be the norm.

Maybe the Shanghai Metro Corporation needs a stern talking to by the nice people at Hong Kong MTR....?
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Old December 30th, 2008, 10:42 AM   #137
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Howcome Shanghai's ridership is lower than Beijing's? Doesn't Shanghai have better coverage, more track length, and larger population?
Because the ticket only cost 2 yuan in Beijing (no matter how long you take). But in Shanghai it's 3--9 yuan,far more expensive than buses.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:07 AM   #138
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Line Opened Newest Extension Length Stations
1 1995 2007 36.4 km 28
2 1999 2006 25.2 km 17
3 2000 2006 40.3 km 29
4 2005 2007 33.7 km 26
5 2003 2003 17.0 km 11
6 2007 2007 33.1 km 27
8 2007 2007 23.3 km 20
9 2007 2008 35.4 km 13
Total: 234.7 km 163
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Old December 30th, 2008, 05:07 PM   #139
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but for a city as big as Shanghai, I'd have thought at least 1 minute frequencies for all lines during peak hour would be the norm.
The system is still growing... I think we just need to give it time to mature.
Besides, I have yet to see anything close to one minute frequencies (60tph!) anywhere. With the volumes of passengers that Shanghai is and will be dealing with at major stations, two minutes is probably the limit without additional platform capacity.
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The system is still growing... I think we just need to give it time to mature.
Besides, I have yet to see anything close to one minute frequencies (60tph!) anywhere. With the volumes of passengers that Shanghai is and will be dealing with at major stations, two minutes is probably the limit without additional platform capacity.
Moscow has 40 seconds between trains...
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