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Old March 19th, 2010, 12:12 AM   #1501
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That's quite a long subway ride from Hongqiao to Pudong on line 2!
Subway vs taxi. Which is faster and by how much?
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Old March 19th, 2010, 01:16 AM   #1502
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Not accounting for traffic, taxi should be quite a bit faster-- but then again, the traffic on Shanghai's expressways can be horrendous at times.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 04:41 AM   #1503
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Isn't the Transrapid Maglev going to connect both airports as well? Does anybody know how long would it take? Like, 10 minutes?
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Old March 19th, 2010, 04:42 AM   #1504
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Not accounting for traffic, taxi should be quite a bit faster-- but then again, the traffic on Shanghai's expressways can be horrendous at times.
If you're trying to do the trip at rush hour, forget about it. The Metro will certainly be faster. Traffic on ALL the elevated roads, especially within the inner ring road, is horrific at rush hour.

Plus the Metro will be WAY cheaper - probably 7 or 8RMB versus likely over 200 for the taxi.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 05:32 AM   #1505
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Yeah, in maybe 8 out of 10 cases the metro will be faster (and cheaper), obviously.

When I arrive at PVG I usually find myself taking the maglev to Longyang Lu and then a taxi from there to my place in the city. Sure it cost maybe 15x more than taking the metro from there, but to me it is worth it not having to drag a all the luggage onto the crowded metro trains on line 2 and whatnot.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #1506
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The outer ring road is usually OK outside of the peaks, and there's the express bus Air1 linking the two airports costing just ¥30. The downside is that at the Hongqiao end only the old terminal is served.
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Old March 20th, 2010, 12:49 AM   #1507
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Nice summary (if repost, sorry);

http://www.shcri.com/reportdetail.asp?id=404

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In the recent 3 decades, Chinese urbanization process is accelerated prominently with the urbanization rate rising from 17.9% in 1979 to 45.7% in 2008. By the end of 2008, Chinese urban population amounted to 607 million. In the recent ten years, the YOY growth of Chinese urbanization rate will be about 1%. With the rapid development of Chinese economy and urbanization and the significant increase in the urban passenger capacity, the pure common public transit cannot satisfy the soaring demands in Chinese cities, especially in large cities. In the opposite, urban rail transit has great advantages in resource saving, environmental protection and transport efficiency.

In the late over ten years, Chinese urban rail transit construction sees a high speed. From 1995 to 2008, the number of Chinese cities with rail transit was increased from 2 to 10 with the investment YOY growth of over RMB 10 billion. By the end of 2008, there were 10 cities with 31 operated urban rail transit lines, acquiring the operating mileage of over 800 kilometers. In 2009Q3, metro construction plans of 22 cities were approved by China's State Council with the total investment of RMB 882.003 billion (USD 129.14 billion).

The construction of urban rail transit brings opportunities and challenges for related industries such as the real estate, communications, machinery and building materials industries as well as provides development space for industries related to the urban rail transit. Chinese central government has issued relevant policies to give priority to the development of urban public transit, improving the utilization efficiency of transport resources and relieving urban traffic jam. China will also enhance the capital investment in the urban public transit construction. Moreover, Chinese local governments also release capitals and supporting policies for the allocation and upgrading of rail transit, comprehensive interchange hubs, station construction, vehicle and facilities.

According to requirements of Chinese government, the proportion of governmental capitals should be no less than 40% in Chinese urban rail transit construction. Therefore, Chinese city governments are the investment subjects in Chinese urban rail transit construction while the rest capitals come from bank loans, which are mainly repaid by Chinese government. As Chinese city governments provide financial guarantees for the investment and financing in the urban rail transit construction, commercial banks are quite willing to release loans for rail transit projects.

By the end of 2010, there will be 55 urban rail operating lines in China with the total mileage of 1,500 kilometers. Over 6,000 vehicles will be needed. Provided each vehicle is priced at USD 1 million, Chinese investment in rail vehicles will amount to USD 6 billion before 2010.

Cities applying to China's State Council for metro construction must meet following conditions: the urban population is over 3 million; GDP is more than RMB 100 billion; local annualized fiscal revenue exceeds RMB 10 billion. By the end of 2008, there were 50-60 cities meeting the standard, so there are huge potentials in Chinese rail transit industry. Chinese urban rail transit market is highly valued by Chinese domestic and international capitals.
I didnt know, there were requirements for a city to have a metro line
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Metro users to pass 5m mark

2010-3-22 | NEWSPAPER EDITION

SHANGHAI'S Metro system will see a steady passenger increase as new lines are gradually put into use, officials said yesterday, with daily passenger turnover surpassing 5 million.

Currently just over 4 million passengers take the Metro every day. Passenger volume on Line 2 is now close to 1 million, up by 150,000, after the line opened its eastern extension on March 16. Two new lines, 7 and 9, also saw an increase after operation times were extended.
Read more: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/arti...#ixzz0j1iKULWS
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Old March 24th, 2010, 05:34 PM   #1510
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kudos to the extension of line 2. but seriously ,who would take the subway btwn the two airports. and this kind of layout would render the maglev useless, at least shift a major trunk of the maglev ridership towards the subway.
they should charge an extra fair for those exiting at the airport.
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kudos to the extension of line 2. but seriously ,who would take the subway btwn the two airports. and this kind of layout would render the maglev useless, at least shift a major trunk of the maglev ridership towards the subway.
they should charge an extra fair for those exiting at the airport.
Why do you think that this line will be used by people to shuttle between 2 airports only. There are dozens of other stops in between. People can use the line to travel from point A to Hongqiao or point B to Pudong or between point A and B.
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The journey time between the two airports on the Line 2 will simply be too long, so airport transfer traffic will safely be in the hands of the Maglev (if it eventually gets built that is).
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Old March 24th, 2010, 10:10 PM   #1513
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The journey time between the two airports on the Line 2 will simply be too long, so airport transfer traffic will safely be in the hands of the Maglev (if it eventually gets built that is).
for which the airport extention part should be built and will most likely be very effective.
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Old March 24th, 2010, 10:15 PM   #1514
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I don't understand why people perceive this line to be an airport shuttle line. It is a normal city metro line that happens to end at the two airports at either end. It is just a bonus that you're actually able to transfer between the two airports should you want to do so (which is great imo). It's main use is to move people within the city as well as from the city to either airport.

The maglev will serve as an airport transfer line once completed.
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Old March 24th, 2010, 11:57 PM   #1515
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I don't understand why people perceive this line to be an airport shuttle line. It is a normal city metro line that happens to end at the two airports at either end. It is just a bonus that you're actually able to transfer between the two airports should you want to do so (which is great imo). It's main use is to move people within the city as well as from the city to either airport.

The maglev will serve as an airport transfer line once completed.
Can't disagree with this at all.
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Old March 25th, 2010, 01:54 AM   #1516
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I still don't understand why they're going with only 4 car trains on the eastern end of line 2, but still calling it part of line 2 rather than a separate line (analogous to the line 1/line 5 separation). Maybe there's the possibility of running the full 8 car trains all the way to the airport at some point in the future?
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Old March 25th, 2010, 03:53 PM   #1517
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I still don't understand why they're going with only 4 car trains on the eastern end of line 2, but still calling it part of line 2 rather than a separate line (analogous to the line 1/line 5 separation). Maybe there's the possibility of running the full 8 car trains all the way to the airport at some point in the future?
inorder to maintain a certain frequency i guess
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Old March 26th, 2010, 12:17 AM   #1518
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I still don't understand why they're going with only 4 car trains on the eastern end of line 2, but still calling it part of line 2 rather than a separate line (analogous to the line 1/line 5 separation). Maybe there's the possibility of running the full 8 car trains all the way to the airport at some point in the future?
To be honest I'm a bit baffled by this myself. I would think it'd be much better to have the eastern extention operating on a half-frequency (i.e. every other train still terminating at Guanglan Road) but with 8-car trains running the full route. This would be operationally easier and more convenient for residents of Chuanshan, Shiwan and Tangzhen, and not least those travelling to the airport.

I do believe however that in the long term once all the trains have arrived Line 2 will no longer be operated in two sections but with through 8-car trains. All the new stations are built with 8-car trains in mind.
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News from today:

- Shanghai Metro recorded highest ever daily ridership on April 2nd (5.6 million); expecting over 6 million/day during the Expo (May 1st - October 31st)

- Underground transfer hall between Line 1 and Line 9 at Xujiahui Station opens today

- Line 9 between Century Avenue and Central Yanggao Road opens today

- Line 2 between Guanglan Road and Pudong Airport opens tomorrow

- Line 10 expected to open by the end of the month
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Old April 9th, 2010, 04:16 AM   #1520
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More News:

Line 10 opens for trial (9am-4pm only) operation tomorrow, except for the stretch between Shanghai Zoo and Hongqiao Railway Station. It will be fully operational before the Expo begins on May 1st.

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Line 1 Platform at Xujiahui
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Transfer Corridor between Line 1 and 9 at Xujiahui
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Expo Advertisement
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Line 9 Ticket Hall - Xujiahui
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Station Art, Xujiahui. The light blue line at the top of the wall indicates this is the Line 9 section of the station. All underground stations are colour-coded with the colour of the Line they are on.
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Line 9 Platform at Xujiahui
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Inside Line 9 Train. Note the LCD display at the end of the car.
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Line 9 Platform at Century Avenue
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Century Avenue - with 4 lines (2, 4, 6, 9), it is the largest interchange station in the system. Note the directional arrows on the floor indicating where to go for each line.
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Looking up at the Line 6 Platform at Century Avenue
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Going up the escalator from Line 4 at Century Avenue
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