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Old January 5th, 2006, 12:20 AM   #141
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In my opinion too much shining white. Looks sterile and not very comfortable for me.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 01:43 AM   #142
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Nice to see more cities are adapting PSD.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 06:40 AM   #143
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Originally Posted by samsonyuen
Looks good, it reminds me of HK's subway. How many lines is that now, and how many km? How many in construction?
I seemingly remember that the total mileage after the completion of line 4 is 123km excluding the Maglev.

I thinks there is another 8 lines currently under construction.

Also line 8 will open later this year.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 11:00 AM   #144
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Originally Posted by simhks
Japanese Style Signs?
But it looks like Bangkok's BTS Train inside.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 11:38 AM   #145
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Originally Posted by zergcerebrates
I think the Shanghai line 4 station's color is perfect. White makes it feel more comfortable and spacious. I think all the stations on line 4 should be like this color with only strips of color determining which station your in. That will creat unity of line 4. Sometimes I think the HKG MTR has too much color, most are nice but some are just hideous like the TST station yellow and black..bad combo or the Yau Ma Tei one.
I liked the colors of the TST MTR station It's look funky man

True the Shanghai subway reminds me of Bangkok.
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Old January 6th, 2006, 12:06 PM   #146
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Old January 6th, 2006, 01:34 PM   #147
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Does anyone have a network map?
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Old January 6th, 2006, 01:39 PM   #148
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Originally Posted by hkth
Yes! It is called Shanghai Transportation Card. You can use this card on Metro, Maglev Train, Buses, Taxis and Ferries. You can also use this card on nearby cities' buses and taxis like Hangzhou. The Card costs 120 Yuan, with 20 Yuan Deposit.
I paid it 70 yuan!
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Old January 6th, 2006, 01:42 PM   #149
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Anyway, what a pity, I didnt stay in Shanghai long enough to see this new line!
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Old January 6th, 2006, 06:19 PM   #150
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Does anyone have a network map?
You can refer here.
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Old January 10th, 2006, 12:41 AM   #151
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Extensions and a new chinese HSST maglev

Still no decision yet about the extension. The chinese railway ministry in Beijing is 100% opposing the project - but the city of Shanghai about 100% promoting it. That conflict is still unsolved.

In the meantime, china has developed another HSST maglev train.

Chinese maglev (superconductor train)

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Old January 21st, 2006, 08:02 PM   #152
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Shanghai subway length to quadruple in 4 years to 400 km

Zhang Jun
2006-01-18 Beijing Time

MANY Shanghai neighborhoods will become construction battle zones over the next five years as the city builds 260 new Metro stations, a senior official said yesterday.

Small streets will be blocked, lanes will be restricted on major roads and noise and dust will fly in the affected areas — although officials promised to keep the negative effects to a minimum.

The city's basic message to residents: Please bear with us; the inconveniences of the near term will lead to smoother transport for commuters in the medium term.

The scope and speed of Shanghai's mass transit plans are highly ambitious.

The length of the Metro system will nearly quadruple by 2010. It took London and New York more than 100 years to build networks of the same length. Shanghai plans to do it in less than 20.

"The overall traffic situation over the next five years will be worse than in the past five years," Bian Baiping, director of the Shanghai Urban Transport Bureau, told Shanghai Daily during the ongoing session of the Shanghai People's Congress.

More than 100 new subway stations are already under construction, and the rest will break ground during the period, which means building will take place on many of the facilities at the same time.

Most of the new Metro stations will be built within the Outer Ring Road. By the time the project is finished, Shanghai's present five Metro lines will be expanded to more than 11, and the total length of the system will grow from 123 kilometers to 400.

Bian said the government is well aware of the huge challenge brought by the rapid urban construction campaign. He said the subway project will inevitably cause traffic congestion and inconvenience to citizens.

"But only after the Metro network is fully established can the city's traffic congestion be effectively reduced," he said.

To minimize disruptions, the city said it will increase control over construction sites to minimize the area affected and reduce dirt and nighttime noise.

Many of the 100-plus sites that are now under construction are close to existing residential complexes — and drawing complaints.

"Many trees have been transplanted in front of our complex, and I'm worried about the noise and dirt from construction," said Zhang Yi, a school teacher who lives in a Putuo District residential complex near a subway construction site.

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Old January 21st, 2006, 09:33 PM   #153
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Thats amazing.Shanghai is becoming ones of the world's great cities.
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 01:32 AM   #154
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Well, I certainly can see the need to expand the metro with traffic the way it is. But it would also be nice if they took steps to solve more immediate problems -- namely opening hours and frequency of trains. I remember a few months ago rushing to catch the last train by 1030pm -- and on a Friday night too! In a city like Shanghai, this really doesn't make sense...
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 01:39 AM   #155
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shangai is gettin really amazing. Even though there are parts of the city that i don´t like
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 01:59 AM   #156
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Amazing??? Shanghai's subway system has
been plagued with problems. First of all, a continuous shortage of subway
cars that never seen to have an end, the delivery of subway vehicles has never been kept up pace with the construction of new lines. As a result of this deficiency,
whenever new lines are opened or existing lines are extended, cars have to be borrowed from other lines, this practice has been on going
forever, not only causing insufficiency in service level on exiting lines,
but also falling short on the expectancies of new lines. Taking the extension
of Line 1 almost exactly one year ago for example, initially the line ran
from south west Shanghai to central rail-way station, it was then extended
northward for a further 12 km, but because of the shortage in rolling stock,
only 1/3 of the trains could operate the entire course, the remaining 2/3
still have to short end at the rail-way station. Because of this shortage,
people are rude when they come to ride subway, they never have the patience to wait for others to completely disembark, every seat or even a small crevice that can't even fit in a lean ass is worth of fighting!!! The riding condition on Shanghai's subway can only be described as horrible as trains are absurdly crowded at all time, providing a perfect breeding ground for pick-pocket, losing a life time saving on Shanghai's subway system is not unheard of!!!

And there is also the suicide problem, Shanghai's subway system is more
and more becoming the favorite place for wicked psychopath to end their lives. It happens so frequently that ironically Shanghai's subway system is adapting to become very efficient in dealing with suicide, each time when someone jumps the track, the accident scene can be cleared within 10 minutes with not even a trace of blood. When someone jumps the subway, both sides become humble, for his action is from a rather selfish stand point as it is meant to cause distruption and interference to the lives of completely innocent bystanders; on the other hand, his disceased corpse is not going to be treated with any respect, and his action is not going to be received with any sympathy from those spectators affected by his thoughtless action. People won't bother to find out the cause of his action, they would only complain endlessly how much their daily routing has been inconvenienced by that particular incident, at that particular time of that particular day.

My personal experience with Shanghai's subway has also been bad. In
2002 when I first visited Shanghai after I left this hometown, my very first
ride was so unpleasant that I couldn't forget for a long time. We got on
the train from the south west terminus stop of Line 1, at the second stop
came a youngster who looked not even ten years old. He was bare-footed,
his clothing was dirty, and most absurdly, he was missing a patch of hair
on his forehead. The train was not yet crowded, when it started to move,
the boy came right in front of me and started to beg for money. As I was
wondering what to do, the boy quickly slip down onto his knees and began
to kowtow and murmur "good uncle, be merciful, good uncle, be merciful".
He wouldn't let go until you throw some coins, but since I just got off
the air-plane two hours earlier, I didn't even have a penny
in my pocket. My cousin came to my rescue, the boy then moved on to the
next passenger to repeat the same act as he has just performed in front
of me. Nobody asked why the boy was doing that, nobody tried to stop him,
everyone on the train seen to enjoy this show, and I suddenly realized why
the boy was missing a patch of hair on his forehead, he must kowtowed so
many times before me that his hair has simply worn out. Behind such pitiful
social phenomenon, the livelihood of the little boy was in the hand of snake
heads who ruthlessly exploit children for their ill-gotten fortune, and
Shanghai subway system, as a representative of the government, made no attempt to stop such evil deeds from happening.

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Old January 22nd, 2006, 03:56 AM   #157
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 04:10 AM   #158
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Yes, ode of bund, Shanghai's subway can be hellacious! You've done well providing readers some imagery of the system.

I've also seen a completely disheveled and filthy beggar crawl on his stomach through the maze of legs along the length of the train. Half the people were gaping in discust and trying to clear out of his path futilely since the train was literally packed like a tin of sardines. Others pretended not to notice. Scenes of despair are not so uncommon, but this is hardly a fault of the subway.

You make a good point about the lack of cars. Frequency is definitely not what it should be. I think another reason people don't seem patient to wait for others to exit the train though is because the doors are often only open for something like 15 seconds. That's not enough time for the mass of people to even completely leave the train. So each stop becomes a battleground of pushing and elbow throwing, and some get stuck on the train, while many get left off of it.

It can also get quite hot in the stations, although at least the cars are cooler. Not as bad as London, at least!

As far as positives go, it's a fairly fast and quiet system, which is actually a pleasure to use when it's not packed, despite all the above.
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 12:18 PM   #159
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Very good for Shanghai. A city of it's size NEEDS a good subway transportation system. I'm glad to see China move forward in it's economic progress.
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 03:31 PM   #160
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