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Old February 17th, 2011, 07:30 PM   #1901
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Old February 18th, 2011, 03:08 PM   #1902
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I don't think so. Pretty sure the tunnels are too small, since the whole line reeks of cost cutting.
Line 8 was originally going to use full-size trains. The story goes when Shanghai had its Alstom factory in Minhang it could only produce type-C trains, and it needed to produce a certain number of carriages to be a viable business, so they thought, 'well, lines 6 and 8 are due to be constructed next so let's have them running these C-trains, bingo!'

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Come to think of it, for a brand new system the Shanghai Metro has a bunch of horrible planning decisions, some of which I'll list below.

- decision to build Line 5 as a completely separate line rather than a southern extension of Line 1 (could have treated it very similarly to the eastern extension of Line 2, using shorter trains on the stretch between Xinzhuang and Minhang Free Trade Zone until traffic warranted longer trains)
It was actually an illegal decision made by Minhang Borough Council, who subsequently got heavily fined by the central government for not following central planning laws. Had the whole planning process been less Beijing-centric we might have had a better outcome.

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- no interchange at all between Lines 7 and 10
Changshu Road has those posh villas inhabited by people too important to be disturbed.

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- no interchange at all between Lines 1 and 13
Line 13 was initially going to connect to Line 1 at South Huangpi Road, but Xintiandi is too 'posh' to have a Metro line trundling underneath so the 13 got diverted away.

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- no interchange between Line 4 and 8 on the northern side of the ring
Because the intersection of the lines is on MOR land, which is too sacred to touch.

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- no interchange between Line 4 and Line 13 near the Expo park
That puzzles me too, since there aren't really any political reasons for this.

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- interlining between Lines 3 and 4 (really becoming a problem now, given the high traffic load now on Line 4 and the inability to run at frequency at less than 5 minutes due to sharing track with Line 3)
There are plans to quad-track the section between Shanghai Station and Baoshan Road, so the line 3 trains from the north can terminate at Shanghai Station, and the eastern section of line 4 can run at full capacity.

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- 'virtual interchanges'
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Old February 18th, 2011, 04:24 PM   #1903
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That is such an idiotic planning, instead of using the type C trains on the less crowded lines they have chosen to use type C on the lines that goes through the most populated places in Shanghai.

They could have easily use type C trains for less popular lines like line 11 line 5 or line 7.

But since they used type C trains in order to save a domestic factory, they might have dug the tunnel with type A train standard and might be able to sell the type C trains to other cities and switch to type A trains in the future.
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Old February 19th, 2011, 02:17 AM   #1904
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That is such an idiotic planning, instead of using the type C trains on the less crowded lines they have chosen to use type C on the lines that goes through the most populated places in Shanghai.

They could have easily use type C trains for less popular lines like line 11 line 5 or line 7.

But since they used type C trains in order to save a domestic factory, they might have dug the tunnel with type A train standard and might be able to sell the type C trains to other cities and switch to type A trains in the future.
Politics ruins everything.
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Old February 19th, 2011, 03:50 AM   #1905
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I think its rather the government's corruption.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 07:58 PM   #1906
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Bullet train testing set to begin on Beijing link

By Dong Zhen | 2011-2-21

CHINA'S high-speed railway development took another stride forward yesterday with the power being switched on in Shanghai and nearby cities to enable test runs on the Shanghai-Beijing high-speed rail link to start.

The line will be fully tested from March 20 when bullet trains traveling at more than 400 kilometers per hour will make the trip to iron out any problems and make adjustments before the new line opens to the public on June 20.

The trains will run between Shanghai's Hongqiao Railway Station and Beijing's South Railway Station during the tests, the national railway authority said yesterday.

The 1,318-kilometer link will cut the journey between Shanghai and the capital to less than five hours from the current 10 to 18 hours.

The line, which runs through Tianjin Municipality and Hebei, Shandong, Anhui and Jiangsu provinces, will also increase capacity in the northern, eastern and middle regions of the country.

There will be 24 stops on the route including regional transport hubs such as Bengbu Station in Anhui Province and Xuzhou in Jiangsu Province.

There will be some non-stop shuttles between Shanghai and Beijing in the future and the railway authority also plans to launch direct trains between Shanghai and other major cities along the way, including Tianjin, Jinan and Nanjing.

The power grid to facilitate the train operation in Shanghai and nearby cities was switched on yesterday, the authority said, and warning signs and posters have been erected along the route. The grid will be carrying 27,500 volts of electricity and people have been warned not to get near the power supply facilities. Balloon and kite flying is also prohibited in an area 300 meters from the tracks.

The new line is designed with a travel speed of 350kph and above. A train reached 486.1kph during a previous test on a stretch between Shandong and Anhui provinces, the railway authority said.

It is not yet known how much tickets will cost. Flights between Shanghai and Beijing cost around 1,200 yuan at present with a journey time of 1.5 hours.

The Shanghai-Beijing bullet train project is said to have cost 220.9 billion yuan (US$33.6 billion), the highest expenditure on a national infrastructure project to date.

Liu Zhijun, a leading initiator of high-speed railway expansion, was removed from his post as railways minister earlier this month in connection with a probe into suspected corruption. Liu said last month that another 700 billion yuan would be invested in construction this year to build more high-speed links and improve facilities.

The railway ministry said it was to boost capacity on the Shanghai-Nanjing and Shanghai-Hangzhou high-speed rail lines to make travel to the city's two neighboring provinces easier. There will be an increase in the number of train services from beginning of next month and the extra trains will stop at Changzhou and Wuxi in Jiangsu Province, as well as Haining and Hangzhou in Zhejiang Province.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 08:13 PM   #1907
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The railway ministry said it was to boost capacity on the Shanghai-Nanjing and Shanghai-Hangzhou high-speed rail lines to make travel to the city's two neighboring provinces easier. There will be an increase in the number of train services from beginning of next month and the extra trains will stop at Changzhou and Wuxi in Jiangsu Province, as well as Haining and Hangzhou in Zhejiang Province.
But that is not Shanghai public transportation.

How many daily trains now stop in Anting North, and will any be added?
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 01:11 AM   #1908
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Work on 3 Metro lines begins

By Zha Minjie | 2011-3-2 | NEWSPAPER EDITION
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Mar 2, 2011

WORK is under way on a new round of Metro construction that will see three new lines created and another extended, the subway authority announced yesterday.

By 2014, the city should have 14 lines with a network of more than 500 kilometers of track, said Shanghai Shentong Metro Group.

Among the projects under construction are Metro Line 12, Line 13 and Line 16. To date, there is no Line 14 or 15.

Line 12, linking the northeast of the city to the southwest, will have 32 stations along 40 kilometers, passing through eight districts. Passengers will be able to transfer to Line 1 and 13 at Hanzhong Road Station, to Line 2 and 13 at Nanjing Road W. Station and to Line 1 and 10 at Shaanxi Road S. Station.

Line 13 will include 14 stations, with 16 kilometers of track stretching from suburban Jiading District to downtown Jing'an District. Three stops on Line 13 were in operation during the World Expo last year. The full line is expected to include this section, and extend to Pudong New Area, said the authority.

Line 16, which will have 13 stations, will mainly operate in Pudong's Nanhui area. It will connect to Line 2 and 7 at Longyang Road and end at Lingang New City.

In addition to the three new lines, the authority is extending Line 11. Its 21-kilometer second phase stretches from Jiangsu Road Station, crossing the Huangpu River and linking to Pudong's Luoshan Road Station.

The extension, which includes 13 stops, will ease pressure on Line 2 to Pudong, said officials. Passengers can transit to Line 6 and 8 at Pudong's Jiyang Road Station.

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To view a panoramic map of Shanghai's Metro system, visit http://xpo.sh/metro.


Source: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/nsp/Met...ines%2Bbegins/
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 02:19 AM   #1909
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Work on 3 Metro lines begins

By Zha Minjie | 2011-3-2 | NEWSPAPER EDITION
The story appears on Page A4
Mar 2, 2011

WORK is under way on a new round of Metro construction that will see three new lines created and another extended, the subway authority announced yesterday.

By 2014, the city should have 14 lines with a network of more than 500 kilometers of track, said Shanghai Shentong Metro Group.

Among the projects under construction are Metro Line 12, Line 13 and Line 16. To date, there is no Line 14 or 15.

Line 12, linking the northeast of the city to the southwest, will have 32 stations along 40 kilometers, passing through eight districts. Passengers will be able to transfer to Line 1 and 13 at Hanzhong Road Station, to Line 2 and 13 at Nanjing Road W. Station and to Line 1 and 10 at Shaanxi Road S. Station.

Line 13 will include 14 stations, with 16 kilometers of track stretching from suburban Jiading District to downtown Jing'an District. Three stops on Line 13 were in operation during the World Expo last year. The full line is expected to include this section, and extend to Pudong New Area, said the authority.

Line 16, which will have 13 stations, will mainly operate in Pudong's Nanhui area. It will connect to Line 2 and 7 at Longyang Road and end at Lingang New City.

In addition to the three new lines, the authority is extending Line 11. Its 21-kilometer second phase stretches from Jiangsu Road Station, crossing the Huangpu River and linking to Pudong's Luoshan Road Station.

The extension, which includes 13 stops, will ease pressure on Line 2 to Pudong, said officials. Passengers can transit to Line 6 and 8 at Pudong's Jiyang Road Station.

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To view a panoramic map of Shanghai's Metro system, visit http://xpo.sh/metro.


Source: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/nsp/Met...ines%2Bbegins/
Still now word on finishing the Maglev towards Hongqiao?
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 12:33 AM   #1910
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They could have easily use type C trains for less popular lines like line 11 line 5 or line 7.
I would argue that Line 7 is becoming increasingly popular, it links Shanghai University and the former Expo area, which in the future will become a huge development. The line also runs through Putuo District and Jinan District, and has multiple interchanges with popular lines such as 1 and 2. I agree with you on Line 8 though, I only rode it a couple times but what a mess.
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I would argue that Line 7 is becoming increasingly popular, it links Shanghai University and the former Expo area, which in the future will become a huge development. The line also runs through Putuo District and Jinan District, and has multiple interchanges with popular lines such as 1 and 2. I agree with you on Line 8 though, I only rode it a couple times but what a mess.
Line 6 is a disaster too. I was on it last weekend and it was packed to the gills.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 05:36 AM   #1913
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Work on 3 Metro lines begins

By Zha Minjie | 2011-3-2 | NEWSPAPER EDITION
The story appears on Page A4
Mar 2, 2011

WORK is under way on a new round of Metro construction that will see three new lines created and another extended, the subway authority announced yesterday.

By 2014, the city should have 14 lines with a network of more than 500 kilometers of track, said Shanghai Shentong Metro Group.

Among the projects under construction are Metro Line 12, Line 13 and Line 16. To date, there is no Line 14 or 15.

Line 12, linking the northeast of the city to the southwest, will have 32 stations along 40 kilometers, passing through eight districts. Passengers will be able to transfer to Line 1 and 13 at Hanzhong Road Station, to Line 2 and 13 at Nanjing Road W. Station and to Line 1 and 10 at Shaanxi Road S. Station.

Line 13 will include 14 stations, with 16 kilometers of track stretching from suburban Jiading District to downtown Jing'an District. Three stops on Line 13 were in operation during the World Expo last year. The full line is expected to include this section, and extend to Pudong New Area, said the authority.

Line 16, which will have 13 stations, will mainly operate in Pudong's Nanhui area. It will connect to Line 2 and 7 at Longyang Road and end at Lingang New City.

In addition to the three new lines, the authority is extending Line 11. Its 21-kilometer second phase stretches from Jiangsu Road Station, crossing the Huangpu River and linking to Pudong's Luoshan Road Station.

The extension, which includes 13 stops, will ease pressure on Line 2 to Pudong, said officials. Passengers can transit to Line 6 and 8 at Pudong's Jiyang Road Station.

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To view a panoramic map of Shanghai's Metro system, visit http://xpo.sh/metro.


Source: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/nsp/Met...ines%2Bbegins/
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WORK is under way on a new round of Metro construction that will see three new lines created and another extended, the subway authority announced yesterday. By 2014, the city should have 14 lines with a network of more than 500 kilometers of track, said Shanghai Shentong Metro Group. Among the projects under construction are Metro Line 12, Line 13 and Line 16. To date, there is no Line 14 or 15.

Line 12, linking the northeast of the city to the southwest, will have 32 stations along 40 kilometers, passing through eight districts. Passengers will be able to transfer to Line 1 and 13 at Hanzhong Road Station, to Line 2 and 13 at Nanjing Road W. Station and to Line 1 and 10 at Shaanxi Road S. Station.

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Line 13 will include 14 stations, with 16 kilometers of track stretching from suburban Jiading District to downtown Jing'an District. Three stops on Line 13 were in operation during the World Expo last year. The full line is expected to include this section, and extend to Pudong New Area, said the authority.

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Line 16, which will have 13 stations, will mainly operate in Pudong's Nanhui area. It will connect to Line 2 and 7 at Longyang Road and end at Lingang New City.

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In addition to the three new lines, the authority is extending Line 11. Its 21-kilometer second phase stretches from Jiangsu Road Station, crossing the Huangpu River and linking to Pudong's Luoshan Road Station. The extension, which includes 13 stops, will ease pressure on Line 2 to Pudong, said officials. Passengers can transit to Line 6 and 8 at Pudong's Jiyang Road Station.

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That will be funny...

Pink subway trains will run on line 2 to celebrate 3.8 Women's Day



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Old March 4th, 2011, 03:09 PM   #1915
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Pink subway trains will run on line 2 to celebrate 3.8 Women's Day



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Don't they have the entirety of line 6 to be pink for this?
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Old March 5th, 2011, 01:03 AM   #1916
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Is pink associated with women? I thought it's more relevant for identifying gays.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 02:54 AM   #1917
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I would argue that Line 7 is becoming increasingly popular, it links Shanghai University and the former Expo area, which in the future will become a huge development. The line also runs through Putuo District and Jinan District, and has multiple interchanges with popular lines such as 1 and 2. I agree with you on Line 8 though, I only rode it a couple times but what a mess.
Almost every single line interchanges with line 2 or 1 in Shanghai, so that doesnt really make line 7 special. Line 7 takes a way too huge bend in order to reach Pudong from Jinan Temple, so i dont think line 7 would be passenger's first choice.

Yes maybe line 7 will have quite a few passengers from Dongan Road to Jinan Temple where it undergoes a lot of line transactions but this will only be temporary.

As of last week, i took line 7 to the Expo site, there was only 4 person including me on the whole train when i went on on its final station Huamu road in Pudong. Half of the seats are still empty by the time it reached Yaohua road.

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Line 6 is a disaster too. I was on it last weekend and it was packed to the gills.
Line 6 is packed due to the bags and luggages passengers are bringing with them. Line 6 runs mostly outside the inner ring, so probably a lot of foreign Chinese workers take this line.
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those maps are wonderful and all, but surely they don't leave the trains in a "parking lot"! Perhaps "yard" or "depot" would be more appropriate terminology.
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what about the newer trains of line 2 (the bkack and green one)?
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