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Old July 11th, 2011, 04:23 PM   #321
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Old July 13th, 2011, 03:57 PM   #322
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Old September 23rd, 2011, 12:18 AM   #323
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Old October 1st, 2011, 06:02 PM   #324
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Bus and Tram ridership

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Thanks. For comparison, what is the bus ridership? Still about a billion per year?
The bus traffic is declining.

2009
RATP: 995 million
Optile: 309 million
1,304 million

2010
RATP: 984 million
Optile: 319 million
1,303 million

The tram traffic (excl T4) is increasing.
2009: 96 million
2010: 108 million
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Old October 1st, 2011, 11:49 PM   #325
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No wonder if u cut bus service and put new tram lines.
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 07:09 PM   #326
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Not sure, T3 tram line replaced a bus line in 2006 so that wouldn't explain the 2009/10 decrease.
T2 was extended in 2009 but I don't think that could have generated an 11 million loss in bus ridership...

I guess the ridership prior to 2009 was on the increase, so maybe 2010 was simply a readjustment.

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Old October 2nd, 2011, 09:38 PM   #327
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The bus traffic is declining.

2009
RATP: 995 million
Optile: 309 million
1,304 million

2010
RATP: 984 million
Optile: 319 million
1,303 million

The tram traffic (excl T4) is increasing.
2009: 96 million
2010: 108 million
Sorry, but from 1,304 to 1,303 (-0.07%) is far beyond the so called statistical limit which means that such a may easily originate from a mistaken counting. And, after all, it is totally insignificant :-)
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Old October 4th, 2011, 10:11 PM   #328
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Some bus picture in Saint Germain en Laye (western outer suburbs).

RATP bus (rare thing in outer suburbs) Iribus Citelis


Entre Seine et Foręt buses
Mercedes Citaro G

Heuliez GX 327


Resalys buses
Mercedes Citaro

Heuliez GX 317


Veolia
Mercedes Citaro G

Heuliez GX 317


While Mercedes Citaro are very uncommon in the RATP network (only few line), so in most of inner Paris and inner suburbs.
This is one of most common model in the Optile buses networks.
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Old October 4th, 2011, 10:29 PM   #329
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This person has a very nice flickr collection of the TZen BHNS network.

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Crealis Neo 12 - T Zen: Un Crealis Neo 12 du T Zen ŕ l'arręt Carré Canal, by AmysFr

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Crealis Neo 12 - T Zen: Croisement de deux Crealis Neo 12 du T Zen, by AmysFr

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Crealis Neo 12 - T Zen: Un Crealis Neo 12 du T Zen devant Carré Sénart, by AmysFr

I also have a question: do the Mobilien-liveried autocars have anything to do with the Mobilien busway?

Mobilien, by stif.info

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Old October 7th, 2011, 04:33 AM   #330
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I also have a question: do the Mobilien-liveried autocars have anything to do with the Mobilien busway?

Mobilien, by stif.info
The livery is the one for Seine-et-Marne département Mobilien-labelled lines. So it's basically just a standard of service (frequency, running week-ends etc.), and not BRT. Most lines are express and interurban though, linking the main cities of this vast département (the biggest in Paris area).
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Old October 7th, 2011, 09:03 AM   #331
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You can however see the French influence in the body styling, even if Iris is more or less Italian owned these days.
Citadis and Crealis are, as I understand, produced in Czech Republic by Karosa which is now a division of Iveco/Irisbus. A trolleybus version is produced by Skoda.
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Old October 7th, 2011, 09:51 PM   #332
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Don't confuse Alstom Citadis (tram) and Irisbus Citelis (bus). Alstom and Irisbus are two different companies.
Iribus Citelis are made in Annonay (France), Valle Ufita (Italia) and Vysoké Mýto (Czech Republic).
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Old October 8th, 2011, 03:00 AM   #333
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Don't confuse Alstom Citadis (tram) and Irisbus Citelis (bus). Alstom and Irisbus are two different companies.
Iribus Citelis are made in Annonay (France), Valle Ufita (Italia) and Vysoké Mýto (Czech Republic).
Sorry I meant Citelis - slip of the tongue/keyboard! I know the ones made in Czech Republic are exported widely, so are the Citelis used in France made in France? I read once that the design (as Agora) was a collaboration of Renault and Karosa, which had then been taken over by Renault, in about 1994.
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A new station has opened at the end of Line 8 at Créteil-Pointe du Lac.


site: http://www.ratp.fr/fr/ratp/r_55480/u...ur-la-ligne-8/


site: http://www.leparisien.fr/seine-et-ma...11-1643645.php


site: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier...du_Lac_-_2.jpg


site: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier...nte_du_Lac.jpg
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Old October 8th, 2011, 06:07 PM   #335
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Wrong thread. There is one for the Paris metro.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 08:06 PM   #336
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The opening of Creteil Pointe du Lac is not so off topic because this metro station is served by a recently opened busway. The line 393.


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I read that the Trans Val-de-Marne busway is going to be converted to light rail. Is it going to be a conventional tramway or a translohr system?
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Old October 8th, 2011, 08:42 PM   #338
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I haven't heard of this.
When they planned the Trans Val de Marne, they had the idea of converting this bus in tram later but I doubt that they will do something like that, it would be costly and not much more efficient.
The TVM is good as it is today.

The TVM shares a part of its route with the bus 393.
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So the new busway (as shown in the pisc above) for line 393 is just a short strech at the station or it's longer.
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No it is longer, the whole line (11.65km) is in busway.
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