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Old February 21st, 2013, 06:08 PM   #561
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I maybe used the wrong word when I wrote "former".
This is the actual track of the RER C, the line still use it.
The Tram train will replace the RER C in this section.
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 11:56 AM   #562
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So does this line not appear on this map? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%C...s_tramways.png
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 12:36 PM   #563
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I maybe used the wrong word when I wrote "former".
This is the actual track of the RER C, the line still use it.
The Tram train will replace the RER C in this section.
Ah, ok. why are they not going to run RER C on that line? Are the other branches getting better service instead? What are the locals saying about it?

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So does this line not appear on this map? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%C...s_tramways.png
It does! it's the one at the bottom.
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Oops!! Ah I see now. It'll get a little confusing if new tram lines are built without T numbers. They might as well just call it T9 or something...

BTW I'm going to be in Paris on Monday and I just want to check, are Mobilis tickets valid on the trams? I don't particularly see a need to pay more for the Visite...
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 08:29 PM   #565
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Ah, ok. why are they not going to run RER C on that line? Are the other branches getting better service instead? What are the locals saying about it?
You said it yourself, the other branches are supposed to get better service. It would make RER C a bit easier... Don't know if you've ever looked at a map but it's rather complicated.
It would aslo enable higher frequencies on this branch. Today there's one train every 20min/30min, with the tram-train it's supposed to be a train every 10min and there could be more, so I guess the locals are OK with this. One connection would be needed to reach Paris, but with a tram every 10min it shouldn't take too long.
Last but not least, this kind of project is extremely needed, despite going to the center of Paris with public transit is extremely easy, going from suburb to suburb can be extremely difficult. Most of the time, there is just no fast way to get there, or if there is frequencies are just too low to be convenient (one train every 30min...). People take their cars and I guess everybody knows what issues it causes. More and more people are angry because they don't have other choice than taking their cars, this new link to Évry and RER D is going to offer tons of new possibilities for locals and people working around.
But well, you know, NIMBYs are everywhere, there probably are some people saying this project is bad and whatever.

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Mobilis tickets are valid for every mean of transportation ran by the STIF, except a few ones. It's valid on every tram line, providing you bought your mobilis for the right zone.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 10:02 PM   #566
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Zones where run existing the tram lines.

T1: Zone 3
T2: Zones 1, 2, 3, 4 (best for the T2 is to have the zone 3)
T3a/b: Zone 1
T4: Zones 3, 4 (best for T4 is to have the zone 4).
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Zones where run existing the tram lines.

T1: Zone 3
T2: Zones 1, 2, 3, 4 (best for the T2 is to have the zone 3)
T3a/b: Zone 1
T4: Zones 3, 4 (best for T4 is to have the zone 4).
Where does T2 go outside zone 3? Can it not be used on a zone 3 card to travel from La Defense to Issy?
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 11:49 PM   #568
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It can, zone 4 is only for Pont de Bezons (northern terminus)
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Old February 24th, 2013, 01:09 AM   #569
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Where does T2 go outside zone 3? Can it not be used on a zone 3 card to travel from La Defense to Issy?
Don't forget that T2 has been extended northwest of La Défense last November.
Anyway zone 4 is only needed if you want to go in the terminus at Pont de Bezons.

Zone 3 is enough to ride from La Defense (zone 3) to Issy (zone 2).
Note that for Mobilis card zones 1 and 2 are mandatory.
If you want zone 3, you have to take a mobilis ticket with zones 1, 2, 3.
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You said it yourself, the other branches are supposed to get better service. It would make RER C a bit easier... Don't know if you've ever looked at a map but it's rather complicated.
It would aslo enable higher frequencies on this branch. Today there's one train every 20min/30min, with the tram-train it's supposed to be a train every 10min and there could be more, so I guess the locals are OK with this. One connection would be needed to reach Paris, but with a tram every 10min it shouldn't take too long.
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But well, you know, NIMBYs are everywhere, there probably are some people saying this project is bad and whatever.
Thanks for the explanation, and yeah it does sound like a real service improvement both for RER C (that map does not make for happy traffic planners) and this branch. going from a train every 20/30 min to one every 10 is great and connecting to the D will likely change travel patterns.
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Works in Saint-Denis.
I wanted to go further but it rained quite a lot.

Marché de Saint-Denis







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Do we have any updates from T5?
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I don't think that anything has changed since the last pictures.
The infrastructure is done but the test operation without passengers has not yet begun and I don't have date (spring 2013 is the only information I have).

The opening is planned for the summer of 2013.
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Does anyone have information of the Paris Translohr Line? I believe it's T5?
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T5 and T6, we have two Translohr Line under in construction.
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T6 is the one with the five or six segment Translohr vehicles isn't it?

What about the T3b extension over the north side of Paris? Can I ask what's happening on that?
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Why does Paris build a not quite large network so that its lines technically so different are? Basically I would think that even for a larger network uniformization is the best solution.
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Why does Paris build a not quite large network so that its lines technically so different are? Basically I would think that even for a larger network uniformization is the best solution.
Because each project is planned locally and individually, without any long-term vision.
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