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Old May 5th, 2013, 05:35 PM   #601
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Heuliez GX317: 4
Renault Agora: 1012
Irisbus Agora line: 414
Irisbus Citelis line: 884
Irisbus Citelis 12: 474
MAN NL 223: 205
MAN Lion's City: 121
Mercedes Citaro: 68
Mercedes Citaro facelift: 82
Scania Omnicity: 221

Articulated
Renault/Irisbus Agora L: 209
Irisbus Citelis 18: 156
Irisbus Crealis 18: 2
MAN Lion's City G: 157
MAN Lion's City GL: 16
Scania Omnicity: 11
Heuliez GX427 Hybrid: 1
Is this only for the RATP company or does it also include Optile private consortium bus lines?
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Old May 5th, 2013, 09:44 PM   #602
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It is only for the RATP, there is a fan site that show all the bus fleet of the network.
It is updated very regulary.
The number I posted are the number and type of buses in May 2013.

http://www.busiloe.fr/

While they show it in the website, here I didn't included the minibuses.
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Old May 5th, 2013, 11:40 PM   #603
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I don't know the suburbs of Paris very well but it would be also possible to shut down certain streets for cars (or possibly transform them into mere local access streets with no transit function for cars to prevent traffic jams). And then there is also the possibility of doing it Stadtbahn like with underground parts, where necessary and separate way of right at level where possible.

As densities are fairly high, I could imagine however that also real subway lines could be justified. But again, one could try building them in addition to the existing light rail lines rather than as replacement. Tram lines could make sense as feeder lines for such a subway line.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 01:09 AM   #604
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The problem is that there been very few urban planning in suburbs, this lead to many small streets leading to medium streets (often not so much larger), the only big major avenues are the main roads leading to Central Paris.
Add to this fact that the streets are mainly residential, it is quite difficult to shut down traffic in a residential street, especially if there is no other streets to deviate traffic.

Building underground is an option but if we build long underground strech, in my opinion it is better to extend the existing metro network.
Metro would offer faster and more attractive trips with more connections and a higher choice of distinations in a lower commute time.

Paris tram network will grow for sure but I don't think that the network in 2030 will be much bigger than the network planned for 2020.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 12:19 PM   #605
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btw, there are in the whole suburbs of Paris some hundred of kilometers of streets which could accept trams lines, mainly on radials roads, but not only
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Old May 19th, 2013, 05:27 PM   #606
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New trams on T7


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Old May 19th, 2013, 07:34 PM   #607
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Thank you.
It is trams with the same design that will run in the T8.
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Same design, or same construct, too?
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Old May 19th, 2013, 09:05 PM   #609
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Quote:
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Heuliez GX317: 4
Renault Agora: 1012
Irisbus Agora line: 414
Irisbus Citelis line: 884
Irisbus Citelis 12: 474
MAN NL 223: 205
MAN Lion's City: 121
Mercedes Citaro: 68
Mercedes Citaro facelift: 82
Scania Omnicity: 221

Articulated
Renault/Irisbus Agora L: 209
Irisbus Citelis 18: 156
Irisbus Crealis 18: 2
MAN Lion's City G: 157
MAN Lion's City GL: 16
Scania Omnicity: 11
Heuliez GX427 Hybrid: 1

Why RATP don't buy more hybrid buses?
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Old May 19th, 2013, 10:07 PM   #610
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I have only specified if the bus is hybrid for models where there are only hybrid but it is true that there are very few hybrid buses in the RATP network.
There are also some hybrid Irisbus Citelis 12 and some hybrid MAN Lion's City.
More will come in the future.
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Old May 26th, 2013, 12:45 AM   #611
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Heuliez GX427 Hybrid, the only one in the RATP network in test in line 91.













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Old May 26th, 2013, 12:51 AM   #612
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TGV? Imposter!


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The destination banner is scrolling in newer buses, so you can only see a partial view of the name on picture.
The full name of the western last stop of line 91 is "Montparnasse 2 Gare TGV" (Montparnasse 2 TGV station).

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Old May 26th, 2013, 12:33 PM   #614
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I know, but excuse me, I simply had to make that joke ...
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Old May 26th, 2013, 01:54 PM   #615
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No problem.
I understood that it was a joke, I wrote this for people who may not understand why there is written TGV.
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I like the new destination blinds on those buses. The old ones look really dated to me. They look like a calculator screen.

Any news on T5?
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Old May 26th, 2013, 09:26 PM   #617
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The T5 is now visible on network maps, all or almost all the rolling stock has been delivered.
The opening is planned for summer 2013.

We even have the route map
Scroll>>>

http://www.ratp.fr/informer/pdf/orie...mpdf=t5&fm=gif
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Old May 28th, 2013, 01:29 AM   #618
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I have further information for the T5
Full test ride will begin in June 22.
Opening is planned for September.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 10:57 PM   #620
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Great video, it is the first time I see the T5 in operation.
I live in the oposite side of Paris.
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