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Old September 9th, 2013, 08:48 PM   #701
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Old RATP Renault SC 10.
This bus is not used for regular passenger traffic but for special occasions. These can be rented by companies (the case here).


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Old September 9th, 2013, 09:00 PM   #702
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Old September 21st, 2013, 01:26 AM   #703
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Unusual buses on line 38.
The RATP line 38 has Renault Agora for main stock but since the closure of Montrouge bus depot near Porte d’Orléans for works, there are sometimes some Mercedes Citaro in the line.

With the closure of Montrouge bus depot, buses are parked in Bagneux bus depot.

You can see that this bus come from the line 216.

This bus is from the line 88.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 01:45 AM   #704
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First time posting here, and I'm pretty impressed by how much buses around Paris (especially those operated by the RATF) have changed over time. More interesting is that certain bus types are used on certain bus lines, giving me an impression that the bus assignments are similar to those in NYC and Los Angeles.

A first question though: how come there are no foldable bike racks mounted in front of the buses?
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Old September 21st, 2013, 01:31 PM   #705
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The main reason is that it isn't needed. When you're to use your bike in Paris, there is no need to take the bus. It would probably be longer to do so. + it takes at least a minute to put your bike on the rack, so that's (one minute) * (the number of stops) lost.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 01:33 PM   #706
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Yeah that sounds like something for a train trip. I've never heard of buses customized to carry bikes, can you show us a pic of how they look like?
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Old September 21st, 2013, 03:13 PM   #707
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Unusual buses on line 38.
The RATP line 38 has Renault Agora for main stock but since the closure of Montrouge bus depot near Porte d’Orléans for works, there are sometimes some Mercedes Citaro in the line.

With the closure of Montrouge bus depot, buses are parked in Bagneux bus depot.

You can see that this bus come from the line 216.

This bus is from the line 88.
Ah, bus route 38. It has a website where among other things lists other bus routes with the same number, including Zaragoza's one which if you look at the front of the bus or inside has different destinations .
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 02:04 AM   #708
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Yeah that sounds like something for a train trip. I've never heard of buses customized to carry bikes, can you show us a pic of how they look like?
It is a common feature in Northern America to have bike racks in the front of buses but I have never seen anything like that in Europe.


Picture by Secondarywaltz, wikipedia

So safety reason, I don't think this would be permitted here.
It can be dangerous in a collision with a pedestrian, cyclist or biker.
We already had to modify the front design of the T2 tram with the opening of the extension in 2009.
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In Europe we sometimes exagerate with the so called 'safety'.
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Ha, that looks mental, thanks Minato.
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HI, I'm a newcomer in here. I would like to know the route of Paris tram.

Thanks.
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Here you are.

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Old September 24th, 2013, 05:08 PM   #713
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Note that the T5 opened two month ago and the T7 (phase 1: Villejuif Louis Aragon - Athis Mons) will open at the end of the year.
T6 and T8 should open at the end of 2014.
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No wonder why I didn't came across tramlines when I visited Paris....in 1999
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Old September 25th, 2013, 02:41 PM   #715
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All the tram lines are in the periphery, most people who visit Paris don't see the tram lines.
In 1999, there were only two tram lines, T1 which opened in 1992 and T2 in 1997.
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All the tram lines are in the periphery, most people who visit Paris don't see the tram lines.
In 1999, there were only two tram lines, T1 which opened in 1992 and T2 in 1997.
And T2 arrived in Porte De Versailles only in 2009...

Now you can see the T2 from the Acqua Boulevard for example...
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All the tram lines are in the periphery, most people who visit Paris don't see the tram lines.
In 1930, Paris had one of the biggest tram network in the world.

All was destroyed in only a few years, under pressure from the cars manufacturers. The last line was closed in 1937. One of the main lobbyists was Louis Renault... who was a major constructor of buses.

As a direct consequence of this decision, in 1940, when most of the buses ran out of fuel, the subway became the only transportation system in Paris during the war (even if some buses were later modified to use gas).

I have pictures of this former network, if you're interested.
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Good idea.
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I'm currently in Paris then... I'm very far way from my library ; but i'll be back home in a few days.

But there's an article on the french Wikipedia about the former network.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soci%C3...ion_parisienne

The second picture shows a Type L car. It was the latest car built for the network... and it proved to be a failure. They were very light... and the chassis couldn't stand the weight of the motors. As a result, it began rapidly to fold : you can see it on the picture.
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^ Amazing, the tram network back then was as extensive as the metro network is now. Strange to see cables in Paris (in the vintage postcard images), but it was very minimal.

This depot still exists, I live 100 metres away from it:

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