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Old August 17th, 2016, 11:45 PM   #1381
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Bombardier Cityrunner trams with 7 sections in Augsburg run on 11% slopes.

I have spoken with many German tram engineers which all agre that 12% slope for modern multiple section trams is no problem.

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If it were true, why would have Linz had to resort to a specialized model - Bombardier Mountainrunner - for climbing Pöstlingbergbahn slopes, whose maximum incline is 11,6%?
We're not speaking about a in-your-opinion-crap Alstom's product, and nevertheless Bombardier didn't take part in that tender with its standard models - wich should, according to you, negotiate such a gradient without troubles - but with a specially designed one, wich main feature is … ta-dah: an higher share (100%, in this case) of motorized axles, that is the same thing Alstom made for Jerusalem.

And FYI, Am Perlachberg in Augsburg, with its 10,6% (or 10,4%, depending on the sources) actually hosts the steepest tramway track in Germany, but trams run through it downhill only: it's an one way road!
Moreover, to be more accurate, CF8s (the official denomination of Bombardier trams in Augsburg) aren't exactly “standard”: they've an adapted overhang ad quite more performing brakes than other vehicles in Flexity product line.

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an article* from Augsburger Allgemeine (25 May 2009) about the admittance of those trams into AVG (Augsburg operator) fleet;
a picture of Am Perlachberg descent by Panoramio user Dida from Augsburg.


* in German (I merely Google-translate it)
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Old August 21st, 2016, 08:40 PM   #1382
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Porte de La Chapelle (T3b) is temporary closed because of works on the extension of the line.







All trams stops at Colette Besson :

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Old August 29th, 2016, 10:42 PM   #1383
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T3a, Porte de Versailles, late in the evening last week ; this vehicle is in fact a vacuum cleaner :

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Old August 30th, 2016, 08:26 PM   #1384
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Aulnay-sous-Bois (RER B & T4) :







Freinville-Sevran
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Sevran was the start of a 25 km walk along the Ourcq ; It was my first time on the T4 ; I was very surprised to notice that the trains are relatively noisy.
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Old August 30th, 2016, 11:54 PM   #1385
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It is a large metropolitan area with 12 million inhabitants.
12.5 millions the french method of Insee (40% or more commuter). With the anglo-saxon method (25% or more commuter) the metropolitan area of Paris is probably around 14 millions inhabitants or maybe more.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 12:11 AM   #1386
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Here you're too much into the detail, the purpose of my message was to say that Paris is a very big city.
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and bus line 183 (next T9), Porte de Choisy

Cross platform transfer between bus line 183 and T3a eastbound

Porte de Choisy is the only station on the T3a and T3b lines with an island platform.
Eastbound tram has doors opening on both sides.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 12:35 AM   #1387
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How will it work when T9 comes on-line? Will there be a track connection?
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Old August 31st, 2016, 01:14 AM   #1388
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The T9 station will be on Avenue de la Porte de Choisy



No track connection seems to be planned even if the reversing tracks will parallel to T3a tracks on Boulevard Massena.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 02:14 AM   #1389
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Of course no connection tracks are planned cause T3 uses 2.65m wide vehicles and all other lines 2.40m and T9 will also use 2.40m cars so T3 vehicles wont even be able to physically use any other lines while 2.40m cars on T3 line would be too narrow for the platforms.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 04:17 AM   #1390
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According what I heard T9 would use Citadis 402 and 403. This means 2.65m wide vehicles.
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No : it means around 43/45 meters long

The 402 used in Grenoble , Bordeaux, Lyon, Rouen, the 403 used in Strasbourg are 2,40 m wide.
Others 402 (like Paris T3 or Montpellier), but also 302 (Montpellier, Mulhouse, Nice) are 2,65 m wide.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 08:03 PM   #1392
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According what I heard T9 would use Citadis 402 and 403. This means 2.65m wide vehicles.


Any Citadis model can be any width. This does not affect model name.



And again T9 can not use 402 and 403 together, it is either 402 or 403, not both of them.

And again T9 will use 402 model with a width of 2.40m.
403 model was exclusively made for Strasbourg.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 08:37 PM   #1393
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No it isn't, T9 will use 2.65m wide trams.
That's what shows official documents.
I made a confusion, it's true that the name does not have anything to do with the width but it does not mean that the width was wrong.
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Old August 31st, 2016, 10:09 PM   #1394
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No it isn't, T9 will use 2.65m wide trams.
That's what shows official documents.
I made a confusion, it's true that the name does not have anything to do with the width but it does not mean that the width was wrong.
Ok then T9 will use 402 model, with 2,65m width.


I wonder why does not Alstom seize the production of this old models in favor of updated series (Citadis X05) which already have customers (Nice and Sydney).
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Old September 1st, 2016, 04:32 PM   #1395
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The T9 station will be on Avenue de la Porte de Choisy



No track connection seems to be planned even if the reversing tracks will parallel to T3a tracks on Boulevard Massena.
Minato ku, is there any document from which you took this picture?
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Old September 2nd, 2016, 10:06 PM   #1396
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This comes from the official website.
http://www.tramway-t9.fr/

Here you can get some information of the project by areas
http://www.tramway-t9.fr/spip.php?rubrique3

Here the technical documents
http://www.tramway-t9.fr/spip.php?article103
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This comes from the official website.
http://www.tramway-t9.fr/

Here you can get some information of the project by areas
http://www.tramway-t9.fr/spip.php?rubrique3

Here the technical documents
http://www.tramway-t9.fr/spip.php?article103
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Old September 16th, 2016, 07:52 AM   #1398
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Hi,

I heard some buses in Paris are self service (libre service en francais) could someone clarify which routes are in self service?

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Could someone please explain what self-service means in this context?
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Old September 16th, 2016, 04:27 PM   #1400
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From Railway Gazette:

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T11 Express depot opened
16 Sep 2016







FRANCE: On September 15 Valérie Pécresse, President of the Ile-de-France region and transport authority STIF, joined SNCF Transilien Director General Alain Krakovitch and other dignitaries to officially open the depot at Noisy-le-Sec that will maintain the fleet of 15 Alstom Citadis Dualis tram-train vehicles being supplied for T11 Express.

Deliveries are due to be completed by the end of this year, and with railway infrastructure work now finished, driver training is scheduled to commence in November. Under Phase 1 of the project, T11 Express services are due begin operating over the 10⋅6 km between Epinay-sur-Seine and Le Bourget in July 2017

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