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Old October 8th, 2009, 02:10 AM   #101
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According to your list, best Olympic venue use is Athens 2004
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Old October 8th, 2009, 02:16 AM   #102
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lol.
I know, and nobody cares to mention, its only Sydney or Beijing to look and learn.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 05:12 AM   #103
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Actually, that sounds a lot like Atlanta.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 12:22 PM   #104
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Actually, that sounds a lot like Atlanta.
Did Atlanta already have an Olympic stadium before the games?
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Old October 8th, 2009, 01:26 PM   #105
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Did Atlanta already have an Olympic stadium before the games?
They didn't even have one during the games.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 02:12 PM   #106
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They didn't even have one during the games.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 10:54 PM   #107
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Did Atlanta already have an Olympic stadium before the games?
"Ensure that the venue can reduce its capacity post Olympic Games or ensure that it can be reconfigured suitably to host other sports in demand in the host city."

They did that.

The most popular team in Atlanta is the baseball team, the stadium now hosts the baseball team.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 06:11 AM   #108
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So at the end of the day Atlanta opted for a pragmatic solution. But relating it to the title of the thread, you cannot call that stadium a burden, right?
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Old October 10th, 2009, 11:57 AM   #109
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Slalom/Whitewater has to go. It's a ridiculous burden on any host. Leave it as a niche sport televised from Welsh rivers ....
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Old October 10th, 2009, 02:24 PM   #110
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A good watersports centre ought to be able to find a better legacy than an empty stadium. I mean, you can turn those places into tourist attractions and get group bookings etc.
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Old October 10th, 2009, 02:49 PM   #111
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A good watersports centre ought to be able to find a better legacy than an empty stadium. I mean, you can turn those places into tourist attractions and get group bookings etc.
Depends I suppose. A natural river/slalom course probably the cheapest.
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Old October 10th, 2009, 11:53 PM   #112
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A good watersports centre ought to be able to find a better legacy than an empty stadium. I mean, you can turn those places into tourist attractions and get group bookings etc.
Ours loses a lot of money
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Old October 11th, 2009, 04:59 AM   #113
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Slalom/Whitewater has to go. It's a ridiculous burden on any host. Leave it as a niche sport televised from Welsh rivers ....
My city has been considering building one for a number of years now. There are many whitewater canoe/kayak clubs here but they can only use natural rivers during the winter months.
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Old October 11th, 2009, 04:39 PM   #114
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Depends on the city getting them and what plans they've made for them afterwards.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 01:02 AM   #115
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Who is legacy for?

I get the impression that "legacy" is sometimes about making the politicians look good rather than what it delivers for the community. Take the 2012aquatic centre. I understand that the cost of converting the venue back into legacy mode will cost in the region of £40m. That's enough to build sixteen 25 metre pools, something which is desperately needed in London, but they have to spend it so that they can say the Hadid's monstrosity has a "legacy" use.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 01:37 AM   #116
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My city has been considering building one for a number of years now. There are many whitewater canoe/kayak clubs here but they can only use natural rivers during the winter months.
Given Perth's issues, it should really examine Charlotte's whitewater center. It's become a sinkhole for money.
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I get the impression that "legacy" is sometimes about making the politicians look good rather than what it delivers for the community. Take the 2012aquatic centre. I understand that the cost of converting the venue back into legacy mode will cost in the region of £40m. That's enough to build sixteen 25 metre pools, something which is desperately needed in London, but they have to spend it so that they can say the Hadid's monstrosity has a "legacy" use.
Yes, quite right, legacy has evolved from the "legacy" that was thrown around in Olympic circles to a real tangible legacy, especially given that a temporary structure might actually cost quite a bit and offer no legacy when dismantled or as you suggest above, where the cost of transformation into legacy mode could provide a real legacy elsewhere.
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 08:54 AM   #118
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I read somewhere that the Olympic Stadium in Beijing has become the second or third most popular venue in the city with tourists. I would imagine that some people are making it a point to come and see it then, which benefits the city financially. So if you build an aesthetically pleasing venue, I suppose it can sustain itself as a major tourist attraction till they find other uses for it...if they find such uses in the end. I wonder if tourists in Athens or Sydney or Atlanta ever wander the Olympic Stadiums?
Many tourists visit Atlanta's Olympic Stadium...it's heavily used March-October as the home field for Atlanta Braves baseball, converted following the Olympics and reduced to 50,000 seats.
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 08:54 AM   #119
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They didn't even have one during the games.
Yeah, they must have held the track and field events out in a cotton field somewhere...and the Opening Ceremonies was all smoke and mirrors - Bejing anyone?
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 03:42 PM   #120
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The fact is that most Olympic sports are 'minority' sports that have very small supporter bases and finding something to put in, say, the fencing venue must be a challenge to any organiser.
Ironically fencing is a pretty easy sport to cater for as it has no permanent infastructure specific to the sport so as long as time constraints allow it can share a big hall (convention center/expo center (after the games could actually be a huge number of things the 1997 Fencing world champs in cape town were held in the then coloumbourg convention center it is now a car show room as the need for a convention center was taken over by other venues)) with other sports during the games.
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