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Old January 9th, 2011, 11:45 PM   #301
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And why on Earth do they still want to reuse PuduRaya? In fact PuduRaya should be like a premier bus terminal with only those super expensive buses like Aeroline etc. to use due to its downtown proximity. Not to be elitist but only catering to these buses also reduces the number of vehicle in that area. Anyone notices that it is such a joy to use that stretch of Jln Pudu since they closes down PuduRaya in April last year?
Agree, but the problem is most of premium buses was double-deck...

ITT-BTS really really impressive..I hope G will do something to build mini KL Sentral in order to have better integration with rail lines.

One more thing, I heard that Aerobus or Skybus in KL SEntral will move to this ITT. Isn't it?
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Old January 10th, 2011, 12:37 AM   #302
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The only reason i take aeroline is because i like their departures points from different hotels and mall around the city!!The moment they move to puduraya,Thats it no more bye bye aeroline!!I like the mini sentral idea at a few selective and strategic LRT stations.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 06:16 AM   #303
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Talking about multi-modal transport hub, there is still much to be desire of the frequencies of those rail lines servicing the ITT-BTS.

ERL = 25 mins
LRT = 14-23 minutes
KTM = ?

More trains and drivers for the SP line please, if not, when the extension is completed we'll have to wait longer for the trains to Tasik Selatan.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 07:06 AM   #304
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Those timings seem just about right!! This terminal can give KL Sentral a run for their money.The condition for it to happen is simply improve the timings of the trains and off course accessibility to the respective train platforms.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 03:08 PM   #305
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15 Januari tarikh akhir pindah operasi ke TBS-BTS

http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/ar...cle/index_html
15 Januari tarikh akhir pindah operasi ke TBS-BTS


2011/01/04
KUALA LUMPUR: Kemelut membabitkan penggunaan Terminal Bersepadu Selatan-Bandar Tasik Selatan (TBS-BTS) bakal berakhir selepas semua 51 pengusaha bas ekspres laluan selatan diberikan tempoh sehingga 15 Januari ini untuk memindahkan operasi mereka dari Bukit Jalil ke hab pengangkutan awam itu.

Pengusaha membabitkan 1,907 bas ekspres itu juga diberikan tempoh sehingga 14 Januari meminda syarat lesen masing-masing dengan Lembaga Pelesenan Kenderaan Perdagangan (LPKP) untuk beroperasi dari TBS-BTS tanpa dikenakan sebarang bayaran. Pengerusi LPKP, Datuk Halimah Mohamed Sadique, berkata hanya bas ekspres bagi laluan utara dibenarkan terus beroperasi dari Hentian Bas Sementara Bukit Jalil, manakala pengusaha bas ekspres yang gagal berpindah dalam tempoh itu dikenakan tindakan tegas, termasuk dibatalkan permit. “Pengusaha bas ekspres setuju untuk berpindah dari Bukit Jalil selewat-lewatnya pada 15 Januari. Tempoh itu bagi membolehkan pengusaha bas ekspres mengurus perpindahan dan memaklumkan kepada penumpang mereka (mengenai perpindahan operasi),” katanya kepada pemberita di TBS-BTS, semalam.

Beliau berkata demikian selepas mempengerusikan mesyuarat dengan wakil 53 pengusaha bas ekspres, pengurusan TBS-BTS, iaitu Maju Terminal Management and Services (Maju TMAS) dan pihak berkaitan ekoran laporan akhbar ini Sabtu lalu mengenai majoriti pengusaha bas ekspres enggan berpindah ke terminal baru itu kerana tidak berpuas hati dengan caj dikenakan Maju TMAS.

Mesyuarat turut dihadiri wakil enam pengusaha bas ekspres, masing-masing tiga pengusaha bas ekspres laluan utara dan tiga pengusaha bas ekspres dari KL Sentral bagi laluan ke KLIA dan LCCT, yang mahu beroperasi dari TBS-BTS membabitkan 94 bas ekspres menjadikan keseluruhan bas ekspres yang akan beroperasi ialah 2,001 bas.

Terminal yang mula dibina pada 2008 membabitkan kos RM570 juta itu mempunyai 55 platform bas, 55 ruang bagi teksi perjalanan jauh, 1,000 ruang letak kereta dan 1,800 tempat duduk dalam terminal berhawa dingin itu yang mampu menampung sehingga 40,000 pengguna sehari.
Bagi mengatasi masalah caj pengurusan dan hal berbangkit lain, Halimah berkata, Unit Kerjasama Awam Swasta (UKAS), Maju TMAS, Persatuan Bas Ekspres Melayu Semenanjung Malaysia (PEMBAWA), Persatuan Pengusaha-Pengusaha Bas SeMalaysia (PMBOA), Kesatuan Bas Ekspres Semenanjung Malaysia dan Konsortium Transnasional Bhd (KTB) akan berbincang dalam dua mesyuarat berasingan di Menara Usahawan di Putrajaya hari ini.

Majoriti pengusaha bas ekspres dilaporkan tidak berpuas hati dengan tindakan Maju TMAS yang menetapkan caj pengurusan bas ekspres, iaitu RM20 bagi sebuah bas ekspres yang disifatkan terlalu tinggi berbanding RM10 yang dikenakan bagi setiap bas ketika mereka beroperasi di Hentian Bas Puduraya yang kini dinaikkan taraf.

Mereka juga menyifatkan cadangan pihak pengurusan terminal untuk mengambil alih sistem penjualan tiket bas ekspres dengan memperkenalkan ‘e-tiket’ dan mengenakan caj RM1 bagi setiap penumpang sebagai tidak praktikal.

Sebelum ini, pengusaha bas ekspres membayar sewa RM1,000 bagi setiap kaunter tiket disewa di Puduraya untuk menjual tiket bas ekspres milik mereka
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Old January 10th, 2011, 04:05 PM   #306
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Majoriti pengusaha bas ekspres dilaporkan tidak berpuas hati dengan tindakan Maju TMAS yang menetapkan caj pengurusan bas ekspres, iaitu RM20 bagi sebuah bas ekspres yang disifatkan terlalu tinggi berbanding RM10 yang dikenakan bagi setiap bas ketika mereka beroperasi di Hentian Bas Puduraya yang kini dinaikkan taraf.
KL-Larkin roughly RM30 per passenger. for single trip, normally 1 bus can get more than 10 passengers. so, RM300 per bus. how much the cost for diesel used? estimate how much profit bus operators can get?
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Old January 10th, 2011, 04:15 PM   #307
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He he, Tasik Selatan itself is already a few miles closer to Larkin than Puduraya, they would have already profited on the time and diesel not stuck travelling from Puduraya to the Sg Besi toll.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 10:40 PM   #308
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Yeap....true true.

Passed by Bukit Jalil last week Tuesday (4th Jan 2011) and there are still lotsa buses and people there. Went to check out the ITT on Friday (7th Jan 2011) and the place is still empty.

And why on Earth do they still want to reuse PuduRaya? In fact PuduRaya should be like a premier bus terminal with only those super expensive buses like Aeroline etc. to use due to its downtown proximity. Not to be elitist but only catering to these buses also reduces the number of vehicle in that area. Anyone notices that it is such a joy to use that stretch of Jln Pudu since they closes down PuduRaya in April last year?
The best solution for Puduraya is to use it as a bus holding and dispatch terminal for stage buses and local intercity buses.

The problem is that it isn't large enough to handle all of those buses so something will have to give - I'm sure the temporary terminal at Hang Tuah is not going to be there for that much longer.

On the other hand, a terminal on the south side beside the Hang Tuah LRT station might be the best option.

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Old January 13th, 2011, 06:02 AM   #309
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The best solution for Puduraya is to use it as a bus holding and dispatch terminal for stage buses and local intercity buses.

The problem is that it isn't large enough to handle all of those buses so something will have to give - I'm sure the temporary terminal at Hang Tuah is not going to be there for that much longer.

On the other hand, a terminal on the south side beside the Hang Tuah LRT station might be the best option.

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em...i agree wif u. for my opinion, i guess juz demolish puduraya and make it commercial place shud be more worthy. or juz complete the abandon plaza rakyat nowadays thr. its so sad to see thr.
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Old January 15th, 2011, 06:35 AM   #310
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Big shift for bus operators
By TEH ENG HOCK Friday January 14, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...598&sec=nation

PETALING JAYA: South-bound express buses will start plying the new Integrated Transportation Terminal-Bandar Tasik Selatan (ITT-BTS) within the next two weeks.

Bus companies had initially refused to shift operations to the new RM570mil terminal following a stand-off with the terminal operator.

“I advise all passengers who have bought tickets to call the bus companies to find out where their buses would arrive and depart,” said Pan Malaysian Bus Operators Association president Datuk Ashfar Ali.

“In order not to inconvenience passengers during the Chinese New Year rush, bus operators will progressively shift when the ticket counters are ready,” Ashfar told The Star.

He also proposed that RapidKL deploy feeder buses to shuttle passengers between the temporary bus terminal in Bukit Jalil, main spots in the city centre and the ITT-BTS.

“I hope a lesson is learnt here. Why force everyone to move at the last minute? Why were the operators not engaged earlier?” he asked.

Bus operators had initially refused to relocate to the terminal, claiming that the cost of operating at ITT-BTS was four times higher than at other terminals.

Each bus is charged RM10 per entry and RM10 per exit, but after Wednesday’s meeting, it was agreed that the rate be reduced to RM6, said Ashfar.

“Also, buses coming in empty to pick up passengers would only be charged the exit fee, while buses offloading passengers but leaving empty will only pay the entry fee,” he said.

Previously, the fee was applicable on a per entry and per exit basis regardless of passenger load.

The RM1 ticket surcharge imposed by terminal operator Maju TMAS (Terminal Manage ment and Services) is also on hold.

Initially, Maju TMAS had insisted that bus companies use its computerised ticketing system although they each had their own ticketing system online.

“We are not sure who should bear the cost of the ticket surcharge – the passengers or the bus operators – so it is on hold.

“It was also agreed that bus operators use their own e-ticketing system.

“Smaller companies who do not have an online system will use the ITT-TBS system,” he said.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 06:04 AM   #311
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FoodForThought:

its such a silly move to have ITT-TBS system when each individual bus company have their own online e-ticketing. why such a hassle move?

i remember even UK bus terminal did not have the ITT sort like system.

What a passenger want to know in the bus terminal is the arrival and departure time of the buses.. information of each every buses terminal...

Guess the G have ommited the importance need of a passengers. G. officier are too rich and never take a bus before?
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Old January 18th, 2011, 06:13 AM   #312
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bcoz v r better than UK bus terminal....
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Old January 18th, 2011, 10:28 AM   #313
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i remember even UK bus terminal did not have the ITT sort like system.
Maybe they want to follow the UK single train ticketing system ?

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bcoz v r better than UK bus terminal....
Better than London Victoria Coach Station ? LOL.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 03:33 PM   #314
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bcoz v r better than UK bus terminal....
wevy questionable standard of Engrish
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Old January 19th, 2011, 11:51 AM   #315
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Alamak !!! gotta check-in before you can board your bus.

The guy who thought of this must be MAD.

Bus travel is meant to be cheap, simple & convenient. I used to arrive 10 minutes before the bus departure time, I'm fine. Last sunday, I wasted 1/2 hour queing to check-in and nearly miss my bus. The is madness !!!!
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They have to justify the $1 per pax and $20 per bus ma!
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FoodForThought:

its such a silly move to have ITT-TBS system when each individual bus company have their own online e-ticketing. why such a hassle move?

i remember even UK bus terminal did not have the ITT sort like system.

What a passenger want to know in the bus terminal is the arrival and departure time of the buses.. information of each every buses terminal...

Guess the G have ommited the importance need of a passengers. G. officier are too rich and never take a bus before?
not all the bus companies have their own ticketing systems. The bigger ones do have online ticketing, but the smaller ones are internal.

It would be much easier if the website would simply offer a list of the services and their times and customers could choose where and when they want to go.

That is why I use journeymalaysia.com

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Alamak !!! gotta check-in before you can board your bus.

The guy who thought of this must be MAD.

Bus travel is meant to be cheap, simple & convenient. I used to arrive 10 minutes before the bus departure time, I'm fine. Last sunday, I wasted 1/2 hour queing to check-in and nearly miss my bus. The is madness !!!!
hahaha they want you to come early to enjoy the "airport-like" ambiance there!

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Old January 29th, 2011, 01:11 AM   #319
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Another common flip-flop from our beloved G..Regarding Puduraya, I don't think it will be ready by next two days...

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Deadline extended for express bus operators to move from Bukit Jalil to the Southern Integrated Terminal

According to a statement issued today by the Land Public Transport Commission, the deadline for all express bus operators – serving destinations south of Kuala Lumpur – to relocate to the Southern Integrated Terminal in Bandar Tasik Selatan, KL will be extended to March 1.

The decision to extend the deadline was made by the Government to give the express bus operators more time to relocate from the Bukit Jalil Temporary Bus Terminal to the new six-storey terminal. The extension is also to avoid the public getting confused during the heavy travel demand period around Chinese New Year.

The extension of the deadline will also to enable new ticket counters to be constructed in the terminal, to enable bus operators with their own ticketing system to sell their tickets at the terminal.

The Government has also set up an Operational Readiness Task Force, which is headed by the LPTC. The task force is to ensure the smooth migration of express bus operators to the SIT by the new deadline.
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Ha Ha i thought LPKP wonder women said they going "tarik lesen kalau tak pindah"Just to show who is really running the show here!!!Why must transnasional have their own ticketing counter?CNY would have been perfect to put this terminal the test!
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