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Old July 8th, 2008, 10:29 PM   #1
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Eastern outer suburbs of Paris : Lognes Torcy

It is not that often the photo thread inside Paris suburbia.
Lognes and Torcy are two municipalities located in Marne la Vallee urban project.

If you want see nice old building try an other place, here the oldest buildings were build in the 1980's

These are desserved by the RER A.

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Old July 9th, 2008, 01:47 AM   #2
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Great shots once again Minato_ku and thank you for bringing us a side of Paris that we don't usually get to see.

You certainly get around a lot with your camera! If I lived in Paris, I'd probably do the same.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 07:59 AM   #3
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Pretty!!
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Old July 9th, 2008, 11:06 AM   #4
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Once again Minato, thanks for the photo tour, as I said before you should post them in a blog or a website, it's a shame that all this fantastic work you do gets lost after a while in forum archives.

That said, this place reminds me of Saint Quentin en Yvelines, a western new town where I study. I don't like these kind of areas, it's bad and cheap urbanism, density is much too low.
You generally have a little dense center with 5-6 stories building and then it's sprawl sprawl sprawl. Wide roads, detached houses and small appartment buildings with the occasional housing project here and there.


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Great shots once again Minato_ku and thank you for bringing us a side of Paris that we don't usually get to see.

You certainly get around a lot with your camera! If I lived in Paris, I'd probably do the same.

Well you can do it where you live, no place where people live isn't worth showing and exploring
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Old July 9th, 2008, 11:35 AM   #5
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Thanks for your pictures Minato!
I really don't like these 80's suburbs, there is such a lack of urbanity compared to the inner suburbs like Ivry, Montreuil or Colombes... And at the same time there is nothing like the countryside or provincial feeling you get in Montmorency, Vallée de la Chevreuse, Meaux or Melun... Just commercial developments, sprawl and cheap concrete buildings thrown away randomly.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 11:57 AM   #6
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Wow. That is my idea of "suburbs" as opposed its the sprawling cousin in the US.

Thanks for sharing.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 12:53 PM   #7
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Don't be foolled by these appartement building most of Paris outer suburbs are low density sprawlly house.

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Thanks for your pictures Minato!
I really don't like these 80's suburbs, there is such a lack of urbanity compared to the inner suburbs like Ivry, Montreuil or Colombes... And at the same time there is nothing like the countryside or provincial feeling you get in Montmorency, Vallée de la Chevreuse, Meaux or Melun... Just commercial developments, sprawl and cheap concrete buildings thrown away randomly.
Yeh I agree, it is quite boring, I see the youth here that only go in the several malls of this area and exepecially in Val d' Europe.
And by a big coincidence I also made a trip in Ivry and Montreuil. I will post them later.

Eklips I think that I will also create a blog but I had no idea of wich one chose.
I aslo created a special tag called Paris photo where you can see every Paris photo threads created after september 2007.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 01:36 PM   #8
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Great shots! Paris is very similar to London.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 04:32 PM   #9
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Great shots! Paris is very similar to London.
No it isn't! I didn't notice many similarities between Paris and London at all other than the fact that both are capital cities and both have rapid transit railways!
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Old July 9th, 2008, 05:07 PM   #10
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Ahh, beautiful Torcy, the suburb of love!

I recognise several of these photos, I used to buy my groceries from the Continent hypermarket near to the RER station, does it still exist?
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Old July 9th, 2008, 09:14 PM   #11
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Continent don't exist anymore, Carrefour bought it and Continent hypermarkets became Carrefour.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 02:31 AM   #12
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Ahh, beautiful Torcy, the suburb of love!

I recognise several of these photos, I used to buy my groceries from the Continent hypermarket near to the RER station, does it still exist?
Were you one of the Brits working in Disneyland Paris near this area? Otherwise, I don't see why a Brit would live in these distant parts, minus the ocassional companies that may be located around here that I don't know about.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 03:28 AM   #13
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Near the RER Torcy was definitively not in a safe area.
I was also questionned about my pictures by a "west coast" style black gang. (When I took the picture 56)

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Were you one of the Brits working in Disneyland Paris near this area? Otherwise, I don't see why a Brit would live in these distant parts, minus the ocassional companies that may be located around here that I don't know about.
When I was in Val d'Europe mall (at two RER station of Torcy) I was astonished to see the large number of english speaking people and european foreigners. It was mainly famillies.

I don't know if I had already posted picture of Val d'Europe mall. The Disney town.

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Old July 10th, 2008, 05:17 PM   #14
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Were you one of the Brits working in Disneyland Paris near this area? Otherwise, I don't see why a Brit would live in these distant parts, minus the ocassional companies that may be located around here that I don't know about.
Yes, that was my reason for living there.

I'm sure you can find Brits living in even the most distant and obscure parts of France following our attempted takeover of the French real estate market over the past 10 years although Torcy probably isn't top of the list for retiring middle class couples and downsizing ex-City bankers and their families.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 03:59 PM   #15
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Nice. Looks very Nordic.
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Heh, one of my mom's classmates lives a short drive from the Carrefour store.
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Old July 14th, 2008, 08:01 PM   #17
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I recognise several of these photos, I used to buy my groceries from the Continent hypermarket near to the RER station, does it still exist?
The Continent hyper became a Carrefour hyper (late 90's if I remember correctly), then a few years after the whole block was torn down and replaced by an open air mall called Bay1 which opened a couple of years ago. Picture 36 show the new parking lot, which stands approximately where the old one stood, while the restaurants, shops and cines shown in pics 51 and 59 to 65 stand where you used to buy your groceries. The area is much better right now IMO.

A larger Carrefour mall was built circa 2003 on a vacant lot opposite the RER, alongside the A104. This is the one Urbanfan89 must be speaking about. If you take a look at Google Earth, the pictures which date from 2003 clearly show the transformation of the area, with the new Carrefour getting built, while the old one still stands (but was already closed by that time) just north of the station.

As for Lognes and Torcy, on one hand the architecture is rather poor with mostly cheap concrete buildings, though there is some interesting use of the brick (especially in Lognes). On the other hand the urbanism allows great areas of greeneries that you won't never find in such suburbs as the ones afore mentioned. Too bad Minato didn't explore the lakes area just a stone's throw away. It's a place the locals really enjoy especially on sunny weekends. I was there yesterday, and there were people playing basketball, football, or just having a walk in family everywhere. A lot of denser Paris suburbs definitly lack these green spaces. As for the sprawl, this is a notion that doesn't apply to Lognes or Torcy, as there is very very few individual housing there, and detached housing is almost inexistant unlike other suburbs further East such as Bussy or Val d'Europe.
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