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Old July 21st, 2008, 04:54 PM   #21
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Chinese architectures especially from the Tang dynasty is symbolic and synonymous with China. Its good that Suzhou with its beautiful gardens and canals puts it in a unique place for canal architecture outside of Venice. Suzhou is the Venice of China.
Suzhou is much older than Venice, how can Suzhou be the Venice of China. It's rather Venice is the Suzhou of Italy/Europe.
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 07:11 AM   #22
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Suzhou is much older than Venice, how can Suzhou be the Venice of China. It's rather Venice is the Suzhou of Italy/Europe.

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Old July 23rd, 2008, 07:32 AM   #23
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Venice is well-known worldwide
but how many people in the world know Suzhou?
so Venice is Venice
it's venice in the world
And Suzhou is Suzhou!
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Old July 24th, 2008, 02:04 AM   #24
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Venice is well-known worldwide
but how many people in the world know Suzhou?
so Venice is Venice
it's venice in the world
And Suzhou is Suzhou!

It's up to every Chinese whether Suzhou or any other Chinese city will become well known or not. It certainly does not help to promote your unique identity by drapping yourself with foreign titles like X is the Paris of ..., Y is th Chicago of ..., Z is the New York of ...
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Old July 28th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #25
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^Thanks mate for this. I understand alot of these are new build:

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Qianmen Jie in Beijing. Just got a complete face lift and restoration.

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Old August 10th, 2008, 10:27 PM   #26
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Yulin, not sure what this building is,



Xiangfu Temple, Grand Buddha, Mashan town, Wuxi (+88m statue)






Laozi temple, Mount Mao






Spring temple, Zhaocun township, Lushan county, (worlds tallest statue, 208m including building base)



Guanyin Statue at Huangda Xian Temple… 黄大仙寺, Mt Xiqiao 西樵山 (62m)

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Old August 18th, 2008, 02:55 AM   #27
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Dazhalan Street near Qianmen, Beijing has also been restored:

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Old August 19th, 2008, 10:56 PM   #28
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Singapore has a predominantly Chinese population

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New building with old style roof, Singapore Marriott Hotel, mid 1980s

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The "Buddha Tooth Relic Temple", 2007


Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce & Industry, 1964
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Old August 20th, 2008, 05:21 PM   #29
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Old August 21st, 2008, 04:19 PM   #30
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^nice ones guys.

new one for Chongqing, Hongyadong phase II:

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Old August 22nd, 2008, 08:06 PM   #31
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Old August 24th, 2008, 09:53 PM   #32
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macpolo fixed them

we'll be seeing more in Shanghai too:

Looks like Shanghai may get some more old stylee too, thanx to 02tonyl

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SHANGHAI'S urban planning authority has developed tougher rules designed to bring historic preservation standards up to the same level in the suburbs as they are in the downtown.

The plan, unveiled yesterday by the Shanghai Urban Planning and Administrative Bureau, covers 32 suburban sites of historic importance and will soon be approved by city government, officials said.

"One of the problems is that we need to attract greater investment to protect local heritage and also improve our management of the cultural preservation system," Wu Jiang, the bureau's vice director, told a news conference.

In the downtown, much of that investment capital has come from private sources, and strict rules are needed to make sure commercial interests don't damage historic elements. In one recent example, a major hotel group was forced to restore an old lawn at a landmark inn after it ripped up the grass to build a restaurant.

Among the suburban areas targeted for greater protection are Cangcheng Town in Songjiang District, Zhouqiao in Jiading District and Qibao Town in Minhang District, which are home to buildings dating back several hundred years. Planning bureau officials did not, however, reveal exactly how the rules would be changed to better protect these areas.

They did say the new effort is the result of years of research by architectural and urban planning experts, who found that the rules covering historic preservation in the suburbs weren't as strong as those in the downtown.

Stringent conservation rules for 12 historical heritage spots in center city were enacted by city government in 2005.

Mao Jialiang, the planning bureau's director, told reporters that the city's historic buildings are going through a transitional phase. Many former government offices and old private residences are being turned into restaurants, boutiques and nightclubs, especially along the Bund.

With investment from developers, these culturally important buildings are being renovated in a way that preserves their original architecture while putting them to new use.

Mao said about two-thirds of the buildings along the Bund's historic core area have now been renovated, leased out and turned into office buildings and high-end entertainment spots.

But sometimes the link between private investment and architectural heritage breaks down.

The urban planners said yesterday that authorities launched an investigation into a renovation project at Hengshan Moller Villa Hotel on Shaanxi Road S. in July after receiving reports from a local newspaper that an old lawn had been torn up.

Authorities told Shanghai Daily that hotel management was ordered to restore the lawn, which was protected under historic preservation rules. Officials also ordered the hotel to stop building an exterior solarium that was to be used for dining.

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Lijiang has an 800 year old Old City, one of the largest in the east.




The New City also has some new architecture in old style:


http://www.caingram.info/China/Lijia...ba_village.htm




but generally it's not particularly attractive:



However there are plans to extend the Old Town into the new, bulldozing modern buildings and replacing them with 500 old styled ones:

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Old August 26th, 2008, 07:29 PM   #34
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I am glad that China is keeping with its fine timeless architecture.
I just wish western nations would also try to use more influence from their past rather than try to make the space and difference between them and the past as big as possible.
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Old August 26th, 2008, 08:02 PM   #35
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Suzhou is much older than Venice, how can Suzhou be the Venice of China. It's rather Venice is the Suzhou of Italy/Europe.
First and foremost Suzhou and Venice are both beautiful cities.

Second, they should not be compared. Venice is coastal city with canals composed of sea water. Suzhou on the other hand is an inland city with fresh water canals.

Third, both cities can be said to be equally ancient.

The Venitian Plain was settled in 1000 BC by the Vendi. It became prominent in 200-400 AD after barbaric invasions forced a vast number of Roman citizens to flee to what is currently Venice.

The Great City of Helu (modern day Suzhou) was founded in 514 BC. It became prominent after the Grand Canal and Shantang Canal were built. The former in approximately 600 AD and the latter in 825 AD.

So you see, it is unfair for a Chinese person to say that Suzhou is more ancient than Venice, just as it is unfair for an Italian to state that Suzhou is the Venice of the East. A little less bias by both easterns and westerns would be best! No superiority attitudes please.
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^agreed, lets just keep on topic .
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First and foremost Suzhou and Venice are both beautiful cities.

Second, they should not be compared. Venice is coastal city with canals composed of sea water. Suzhou on the other hand is an inland city with fresh water canals.

Third, both cities can be said to be equally ancient.

The Venitian Plain was settled in 1000 BC by the Vendi. It became prominent in 200-400 AD after barbaric invasions forced a vast number of Roman citizens to flee to what is currently Venice.

The Great City of Helu (modern day Suzhou) was founded in 514 BC. It became prominent after the Grand Canal and Shantang Canal were built. The former in approximately 600 AD and the latter in 825 AD.

So you see, it is unfair for a Chinese person to say that Suzhou is more ancient than Venice, just as it is unfair for an Italian to state that Suzhou is the Venice of the East. A little less bias by both easterns and westerns would be best! No superiority attitudes please.
I was being cheeky, but you are fair and you are right!
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Old September 1st, 2008, 12:47 AM   #38
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Wow, a fantastic thread. Glad to see China trying to preserve its unique characteristics in modernization.
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Is Lijiang's case like reverse urbanisation, when the newer buildings were demolished (those damaged by the earthquake), and the old ones were rebuilt?
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