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dgnr8 · December 15th, 2004, 02:45 PM

It may be called the Emirates stadium officially, but I'll wager five of the Queen's English pounds that every man and his dog calls it Ashburton Grove.

Marvell · December 15th, 2004, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dgnr8

It may be called the Emirates stadium officially, but I'll wager five of the Queen's English pounds that every man and his dog calls it Ashburton Grove.

I, like you, will stick to Ashburton Grove, otherwise we'll only have to change every few years when someone else buys the rights.

PS I asked my dog and he says he'll be calling it the emirates stadium, as he doesn't want to jeopadise his lucrative 'collar sponsorship' deal with the same company. Sorry.

Imperial · December 22nd, 2004, 07:03 PM

British have one of the best stadiums in the world, conglatulations!!!!

wizard · December 22nd, 2004, 08:38 PM

If you're including proposed stadia , then Cardiff City FC's proposed 60,000 seater at Leckwith,Cardiff,Wales should presumably be included in the list.
And yes that is in additition to the Wales Millennium Stadium which is also in Cardiff !!!

eomer · December 22nd, 2004, 09:14 PM

WorldCup 2018 in UK !!!

Giorgio · December 23rd, 2004, 06:29 PM

WOW that stadium looks wild! was football really invented in uk?

CharlieP · December 23rd, 2004, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Giorgos69

WOW that stadium looks wild! was football really invented in uk?

No.

Giorgio · December 23rd, 2004, 07:12 PM

lol does ne1 no wereit was invented? ancient greece? lol

Jerv · December 23rd, 2004, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Giorgos69

lol does ne1 no wereit was invented? ancient greece? lol

The game as we know it was invented in the England, UK.
The first club team was in england.
The first league was in england.

If you include peasents kicking inflated bladders around the streets with the occasional punch where there were no teams, then I think that was northern europe. Hard to say.

Lostboy · December 23rd, 2004, 08:30 PM

Kicking something around with your feet is nothing knew, it probably started with Neanderthals, but the rules and regulations that brought the modern game into being happened in England. So yes, I think I'd go along with that statement.

nickswfc · December 23rd, 2004, 09:03 PM

The worlds first football club was Sheffield FC and the worlds oldest football ground is Sandygate, home to Hallam FC, also in Sheffield

koskaar · December 23rd, 2004, 09:14 PM

The UK certainly has the best football stadiums in Europe, even though most of the new stadias seem to have the same, rather boring lego-design. Anyway, FIFA should give the next available World Cup to the Brits.

Hobodog · December 23rd, 2004, 10:35 PM

Because the United Arab Emirates are chock full of money (and thus their Airline)...just visit their forum on this website...

Sitback · December 23rd, 2004, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieP

No.

Football as a game and sport was invented in the UK. As was most of the worlds most popular sports. Cricket, Tennis, Rugby, Snooker...

Iain1974 · December 24th, 2004, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sitback

Football as a game and sport was invented in the UK. As was most of the worlds most popular sports. Cricket, Tennis, Rugby, Snooker...

Baseball too surprisingly enough.

Sparks · December 25th, 2004, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nickswfc

The worlds first football club was Sheffield FC and the worlds oldest football ground is Sandygate, home to Hallam FC, also in Sheffield

The oldest football club is Notts County.

SouthBank · December 25th, 2004, 09:50 AM

Oldest existing professional club is Notts County, but they weren't the world's first football club.

Wizard - Cardiff's proposed new stadium isn't on the list (as well as a few others such as Birmingham's Dome stadium) because a) It hasn't been fully approved yet, b) I can't see it ever becoming a 60,000 seater - it's planned to open at half that capacity if it does ever go ahead (therefore it wouldn't be on this list of largest stadiums). Cardiff struggle to fill their existing ground all the time, let alone a 60,000 one.

As for the world cup coming to the UK - it won't ever happen as such, although I fully expect England (not with Scotland or Wales involved) to host the competition at the next opportunity - probably 2018. Although this may depend on the outcome of London's 2012 Olympic bid...

easysurfer · January 6th, 2005, 04:30 PM

Charlie p, not too sharp on the history of football? Of course the game was invented in the UK, along with the laws of the game as we know it.

CharlieP · January 6th, 2005, 08:39 PM

What you refer to as "the game as we know it" was established in England in the 19th Century as an attempt to come up with a common set of rules for a game of football, as at the time most public schools had their own rules (most of which allowed handling of the ball) for their own particular form of football. Earlier still, football (or foot ball, or foote balle) was played across the country, usually once a year on Saints' days either between two neighbouring towns or villages or the top and bottom half of a larger town, although there is evidence that similar games were played centuries ago in Italy and China.

Of course not everybody wanted to follow the lead taken by the Football Association (although a compromise was nearly reached that allowed handling the ball, but not hacking, i.e. kicking opponents' shins!), and clubs that preferred the handling game as played at Rugby School formed the Rugby Football Union. Other variants were developed in other countries, namely American football, Canadian football and Australian Rules football (the earliest game of Aussie Rules was played in 1858, five years before the FA was founded), and Gaelic football has been played for centuries in Ireland, though was only formally arranged into an organised playing code by the Gaelic Athletic Association in the late nineteenth century. Rugby football had an internal rift leading to a breakaway in 1895 that saw the founding of the Rugby Football League and the two codes of rugby we have now.

In other words, the question "was football really invented in uk?" isn't as simple as most people think - though a lot of people on this forum seem to think that association football ("soccer") was invented out of nothing in the 19th Century and that other forms of football came later and are just "hijacking" the name - but when I read it I didn't have all that much time on my hands so just answered "No."

CharlieP · January 6th, 2005, 08:53 PM

And I don't know why I just went to the effort of writing all that when I could have just given you a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football

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December 22nd, 2004, 08:38 PM	#24
wizard Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cardiff Posts: 150 Likes (Received): 0	Re: Stadia If you're including proposed stadia , then Cardiff City FC's proposed 60,000 seater at Leckwith,Cardiff,Wales should presumably be included in the list. And yes that is in additition to the Wales Millennium Stadium which is also in Cardiff !!!

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December 23rd, 2004, 06:29 PM	#26
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December 15th, 2004, 02:45 PM	#21
dgnr8 Mmm, Danone Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,778 Likes (Received): 5	It may be called the Emirates stadium officially, but I'll wager five of the Queen's English pounds that every man and his dog calls it Ashburton Grove.

December 22nd, 2004, 07:03 PM	#23
Imperial The Wealth of Nations Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 1,919 Likes (Received): 0	British have one of the best stadiums in the world, conglatulations!!!!

December 23rd, 2004, 08:30 PM	#30
Lostboy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,038 Likes (Received): 12	Kicking something around with your feet is nothing knew, it probably started with Neanderthals, but the rules and regulations that brought the modern game into being happened in England. So yes, I think I'd go along with that statement.

December 23rd, 2004, 09:03 PM	#31
nickswfc ::::::::::::: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sheffield Posts: 87 Likes (Received): 0	The worlds first football club was Sheffield FC and the worlds oldest football ground is Sandygate, home to Hallam FC, also in Sheffield

December 23rd, 2004, 09:14 PM	#32
koskaar PanSonic Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Helsinki/Rovaniemi Posts: 32 Likes (Received): 0	The UK certainly has the best football stadiums in Europe, even though most of the new stadias seem to have the same, rather boring lego-design. Anyway, FIFA should give the next available World Cup to the Brits.

December 23rd, 2004, 10:35 PM	#33
Hobodog Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 51 Likes (Received): 0	Because the United Arab Emirates are chock full of money (and thus their Airline)...just visit their forum on this website...

December 25th, 2004, 09:50 AM	#37
SouthBank Amat victoria curam... Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 66 Likes (Received): 1	Oldest existing professional club is Notts County, but they weren't the world's first football club. Wizard - Cardiff's proposed new stadium isn't on the list (as well as a few others such as Birmingham's Dome stadium) because a) It hasn't been fully approved yet, b) I can't see it ever becoming a 60,000 seater - it's planned to open at half that capacity if it does ever go ahead (therefore it wouldn't be on this list of largest stadiums). Cardiff struggle to fill their existing ground all the time, let alone a 60,000 one. As for the world cup coming to the UK - it won't ever happen as such, although I fully expect England (not with Scotland or Wales involved) to host the competition at the next opportunity - probably 2018. Although this may depend on the outcome of London's 2012 Olympic bid... __________________ LONDON 2012 -http://www.london2012.com/en/

January 6th, 2005, 04:30 PM	#38
easysurfer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bradford/Sydney Posts: 312 Likes (Received): 0	Charlie p, not too sharp on the history of football? Of course the game was invented in the UK, along with the laws of the game as we know it.

January 6th, 2005, 08:39 PM	#39
CharlieP Prepare to die. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wakefield, Little Satan Posts: 21,070 Likes (Received): 219	What you refer to as "the game as we know it" was established in England in the 19th Century as an attempt to come up with a common set of rules for a game of football, as at the time most public schools had their own rules (most of which allowed handling of the ball) for their own particular form of football. Earlier still, football (or foot ball, or foote balle) was played across the country, usually once a year on Saints' days either between two neighbouring towns or villages or the top and bottom half of a larger town, although there is evidence that similar games were played centuries ago in Italy and China. Of course not everybody wanted to follow the lead taken by the Football Association (although a compromise was nearly reached that allowed handling the ball, but not hacking, i.e. kicking opponents' shins!), and clubs that preferred the handling game as played at Rugby School formed the Rugby Football Union. Other variants were developed in other countries, namely American football, Canadian football and Australian Rules football (the earliest game of Aussie Rules was played in 1858, five years before the FA was founded), and Gaelic football has been played for centuries in Ireland, though was only formally arranged into an organised playing code by the Gaelic Athletic Association in the late nineteenth century. Rugby football had an internal rift leading to a breakaway in 1895 that saw the founding of the Rugby Football League and the two codes of rugby we have now. In other words, the question "was football really invented in uk?" isn't as simple as most people think - though a lot of people on this forum seem to think that association football ("soccer") was invented out of nothing in the 19th Century and that other forms of football came later and are just "hijacking" the name - but when I read it I didn't have all that much time on my hands so just answered "No." __________________ This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

January 6th, 2005, 08:53 PM	#40
CharlieP Prepare to die. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wakefield, Little Satan Posts: 21,070 Likes (Received): 219	And I don't know why I just went to the effort of writing all that when I could have just given you a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football __________________ This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

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