ENGLAND - Stadium and Arena Development News

[RMB2007]

I think the Malaysian consortium has a couple of weeks left in order to conduct their due diligence, so some news should be due fairly soon on that. I'm sure Chelsea will make another offer for the site if the Malaysian plan for the site fails.

[bigchrisfgb]

I like it personally, it's unique and quite typical old style British football stadium.

I can still see the Malaysian owners quickly selling it off to Chelsea or anyone else for a quick profit, that is if it's allowed in the terms of the sale.

It could also be Chelsea releasing the images to show the fans that they were serious about their bid.

[carnifex2005]

Aerial shot of the 1935 FA Cup Final (Sheff Wed 4 - 2 West Brom). Attendance = 93,204



This picture is from a site which launched today. Loads of other aerial shots of football grounds.
http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/

[PrevaricationComplex]

I would prefer an England Scotland bid.

[Laurence2011]

London- Wembley (90,000) group stages (including opening match), round of 16, quarter-final, final.

Manchester- Old Trafford (75,957-->90,000) group stages, round of 16, quarter-final, semi-final

Liverpool- New Anfield (73,000) group stages, round of 16, quarter-final, semi-final

London- Emirates Stadium (60,355) group stages, round of 16, quarter-final

Newcastle-Upon-Tyne- St. James' Park (52,387) group stages, round of 16

Sunderland- Stadium of Light (49,000-->66,000) group stages, round of 16

Manchester- Etihad stadium (47,726-->60,000) group stages, round of 16

Birmingham- Villa Park (42,573) group stages, round of 16

Wolverhampton- Molineux (27,828-->50,000?) group stages

Southhampton- St. Mary's Stadium (32,689-->50,000?) group stages

[fortcali]

I prefer an England and scotland bid;
London
Manchester
Liverpool
Newcastle
Birmingham
Leed
Glasgow
Edinburth

[Rev Stickleback]

Originally Posted by fortcali

I prefer an England and scotland bid;
London
Manchester
Liverpool
Newcastle
Birmingham
Leed
Glasgow
Edinburth

England wouldn't need Scotland to win a bid, so it seems unlikely there'd be a joint bid.

With the cost of travelling around the country, I'd imagine travelling fans would be happy it stayed in England too.

[PrevaricationComplex]

True, but Scotland would. And it'll be nice to see. Other Countries not in a political union to form another bigger Country can manage to do it alright.

Also I want an impetus to get some infrastructure done.

[JYDA]

Throw Wales in there as well to include the Millennium Stadium

[AndyKane]

If the unlikely happened and the Celtic bid for 2020 beats the Turkish and Caucasus bids, I doubt England would get a sniff at a European Championship until at least 2032.

[Rev Stickleback]

Originally Posted by PrevaricationComplex

True, but Scotland would. And it'll be nice to see. Other Countries not in a political union to form another bigger Country can manage to do it alright.

Also I want an impetus to get some infrastructure done.

They do it because they need to. Neither Poland nor Ukraine could have hosted on their own.

There'd be no benefit to England, or an English bid, to have Scotland on board.

It probably wouldn't benefit Scotland much either unless it was a genuine half each tournament, as the odds are existing grounds such as Hampden and Murrayfield would probably be used, rather than expanding SPL grounds.


I must be in a minority, but I'm not really excited by the idea of a tournament being in England. To me half the fun is about it being in a foreign country.

[Laurence2011]

please note that there is a planned bid consisting of scotland-wales-ireland in the mix for 2020. so it's highly unlikely england will bid with scotland.

[carnifex2005]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

please note that there is a planned bid consisting of scotland-wales-ireland in the mix for 2020. so it's highly unlikely england will bid with scotland.

That bid makes good sense despite it being in 3 countries.

[Harry1990]

i had a thread going for a future England Euro Championship Bids but thinks its been merged into this thread, anyway i think if England were to bid they would do it alone and they could bid for 2020/2024 i think they would have more chance going for 2024 though

[PrevaricationComplex]

Originally Posted by Rev Stickleback

They do it because they need to. Neither Poland nor Ukraine could have hosted on their own.

There'd be no benefit to England, or an English bid, to have Scotland on board.

It probably wouldn't benefit Scotland much either unless it was a genuine half each tournament, as the odds are existing grounds such as Hampden and Murrayfield would probably be used, rather than expanding SPL grounds.


I must be in a minority, but I'm not really excited by the idea of a tournament being in England. To me half the fun is about it being in a foreign country.

England don't need to, but think how much easier it would be. And the only reason Hampden and Murrayfield would be used instead of expanding SPL grounds would be because of the incompetence of the Scottish F.A and it's member clubs to not take advantage of this opportunity.

I agree with your last statement though, I can already imagine the preparation being unbearable. Instead of having to qualify against the likes of Moldova, we'd end up playing France or Italy in friendlies. God forbid if we beat them or teams like them, the hysterical uneducated masses are going to be more cringe-worthy than ever.

[Rev Stickleback]

Originally Posted by PrevaricationComplex

England don't need to, but think how much easier it would be.

It wouldn't be easier at all, as so little work would need to be done to meet the EURO requirements in England.

Assuming Hampden and Murrayfield aren't used (and also assuming Celtic Park and Ibrox aren't used either as they are also existing stadiums that wouldn't upgrade) the odds are that the two or three grounds expanded in Scotland would be smaller than several already existing grounds in England.

And expended Easter Road or new ground in Aberdeen holding 30,000 would still be smaller than 24 current English grounds. Even 35,000 would see then behind 14 down here.


The odds of England deciding to share a bid, purely for the benefit of two or three provincial Scottish clubs, seem somewhat slim.

Some kind of Scottish/Irish bid would be far more likely, although not with Wales as well. Even with 24 teams, I can't see UEFA agreeing to having three hosts qualify automatically.

[PrevaricationComplex]

Originally Posted by Rev Stickleback

It wouldn't be easier at all, as so little work would need to be done to meet the EURO requirements in England.

Assuming Hampden and Murrayfield aren't used (and also assuming Celtic Park and Ibrox aren't used either as they are also existing stadiums that wouldn't upgrade) the odds are that the two or three grounds expanded in Scotland would be smaller than several already existing grounds in England.

And expended Easter Road or new ground in Aberdeen holding 30,000 would still be smaller than 24 current English grounds. Even 35,000 would see then behind 14 down here.


The odds of England deciding to share a bid, purely for the benefit of two or three provincial Scottish clubs, seem somewhat slim.

Some kind of Scottish/Irish bid would be far more likely, although not with Wales as well. Even with 24 teams, I can't see UEFA agreeing to having three hosts qualify automatically.

It's more than just stadiums though, I'd rather international media spend time in Edinburgh than say Sunderland. There's more than one way a bid can scrape the barrel.

I agree with the odds being slim though, never made a case of the opposite.

[Rev Stickleback]

Originally Posted by PrevaricationComplex

It's more than just stadiums though, I'd rather international media spend time in Edinburgh than say Sunderland. There's more than one way a bid can scrape the barrel.

That part I agree with. One of the problems with an English EURO is that most of our cities at butt-ugly. Compare being in a nice city like Kiev or Lviv (or even Edinburgh) with great architecture, cafe society etc, with the average British city. Imagine coming to England and spending two weeks in Leeds or Birmingham.

[RMB2007]

Rotherham's new stadium nearing completion:

http://360.io/AmNV5y

Oh, and after 24 years in exile Maidstone's new stadium is also nearly completed:

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/201...allery-1-july/

Always great to see clubs being able to return back home. Good luck to both.

[slipperydog]

SIAP

Liberty Stadium in Swansea set to expand to 32,000

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footbal...1466-31299151/