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Old September 26th, 2013, 02:57 PM   #2301
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How busy can one be flicking an ON/OFF switch? And 7 months of testing for something that only has to go 13km on rails? Seriously? Here's the pedal, here's the brake. Nice work if you can get it.
In many (probably most) countries in Europe, trams have to go through a lengthy homulgation process that can involve tens of thousands of km of test running without passengers before they are certified for service. The idea is to ensure, not only that they're safe, but also bug-free because they have to meet very high levels of reliability. Unlike old trams, modern ones are a hotbed of complex electronic and mechanical systems.

Consider us lucky that there is no official homulgation process in Australia, so the trams get some testing on the customers a little earlier. The results of this are not always happy, so no doubt Goldlinq will want to do quite a bit of test running before they go into passenger service.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 05:34 PM   #2302
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In many (probably most) countries in Europe, trams have to go through a lengthy homulgation process that can involve tens of thousands of km of test running without passengers before they are certified for service. The idea is to ensure, not only that they're safe, but also bug-free because they have to meet very high levels of reliability. Unlike old trams, modern ones are a hotbed of complex electronic and mechanical systems.

Consider us lucky that there is no official homulgation process in Australia, so the trams get some testing on the customers a little earlier. The results of this are not always happy, so no doubt Goldlinq will want to do quite a bit of test running before they go into passenger service.
EDIT: Oops, accidentally quoted the wrong person, but I will leave it like that as I may as well add to it.

The new tram in Melbourne arrived 2 months ago and they don't expect to roll it out for general revenue until sometimes closer to the end of this year. There's a lot of faults and solutions that has to be accounted for which isn't always obvious from an everyday perspective.

For example, the tram could have a way of drawing power at 35km/hr that could accidentally break the circuit, yet seem to be fine at 50km/hr. So they would like to find that before it causes disruptions.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 11:11 PM   #2303
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How busy can one be flicking an ON/OFF switch? And 7 months of testing for something that only has to go 13km on rails? Seriously? Here's the pedal, here's the brake. Nice work if you can get it.
Why on Earth didn't you tender to run the system for us then? Why are you wasting your time on the internet?
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Old September 27th, 2013, 01:39 AM   #2304
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Here's our rumour of tracks needing to be ripped up:

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Rail bosses say track measures up
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Reports that there are variations in the new light rail track widths have been denied. Pic: Richard Gosling

LIGHT rail contractors GoldlinQ have denied claims that freshly laid tracks in Southport will have to be torn up and replaced after a construction error.

Earlier this week GoldlinQ staff were seen inspecting tracks near the light rail depot, reportedly because of issues with the distance between the rails.

But the company insists all is good, with CEO Phil Mumford saying there was no truth to the newest "Southport rumour".

The denial comes in spite of locals telling the Bulletin construction workers had told them about problems with the rail line.

Dr Robert Johnson said he was chatting to light rail workers when they told him the strip from Officeworks on Nerang St to Southport RSL on Scarborough St would need replacing.

"The guy said the width of the rail lines was all wrong, which meant they needed to pull up the concrete, re-align the links and then pour the concrete again," he said.

"He was complaining that it would take months to fix up. It is the last thing people in the area need.

This thing has caused so many problems - even the workers are admitting it."

Men and women in vests with clipboards and measuring tapes walked the rail lines from the Southport RSL to Officeworks and two other construction workers could be seen nearby with measuring devices.

Mr Mumford said nothing had needed replacing.

"The small section of track in question in Southport has already had two trams travel over it safely on the way to the depot during deliveries," he said. "We confirmed yesterday there is no issue that requires tracks to be replaced."
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Old September 27th, 2013, 08:53 AM   #2305
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From late September 2013 tram movements will begin in Southport from the light rail Depot along Queen
Street and Nerang Street to Southport Station near Scarborough Street (see map).

Overhead wires are also live in this area and tram movements can be expected to occur at anytime.

Trams will start by moving slowly before gradually working up to operational speeds. Remember to obey all
signs, signals and road rules and you will be safe at all times.

http://www.goldlinq.com.au/workspace...g-524229c6.pdf

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Old September 28th, 2013, 04:52 AM   #2306
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This is going to be hilarious, cant wait for the first idiot to smash into a tram
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Old September 28th, 2013, 05:36 AM   #2307
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This is going to be hilarious, cant wait for the first idiot to smash into a tram
What a strange comment to make??!

So you're going to have a good old chuckle when someones wife with the two kids in the back have a tram plough into them, because they were turning or blocking a tram track while they make a turn into the school??

Wow... imagine how simply ecstatic you will be then if one of the children gets killed in that accident.... you'll be laughing for a week no doubt.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 06:44 AM   #2308
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What a strange comment to make??!

So you're going to have a good old chuckle when someones wife with the two kids in the back have a tram plough into them, because they were turning or blocking a tram track while they make a turn into the school??

Wow... imagine how simply ecstatic you will be then if one of the children gets killed in that accident.... you'll be laughing for a week no doubt.
If people obey the rules, no problem. Before Isaac Newton saw the apple, people knew that falling is fatal, yet the Gold Coast seems to be having a 'balcony plunge' a week. If Gold Coast people can't even respect the laws of physics, and think monkeying around on balconies is a great idea, no hope for them, never mind the trams.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 06:59 AM   #2309
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Actually NoShow its mainly pissheads and therefore a selfcorrecting problem. Every building should have balconies so we can improve the gene pool.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 07:02 AM   #2310
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I think more people get stabbed than fall off balconies.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 07:08 AM   #2311
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What a strange comment to make??!

So you're going to have a good old chuckle when someones wife with the two kids in the back have a tram plough into them, because they were turning or blocking a tram track while they make a turn into the school??

Wow... imagine how simply ecstatic you will be then if one of the children gets killed in that accident.... you'll be laughing for a week no doubt.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 09:13 AM   #2312
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If people obey the rules, no problem. Before Isaac Newton saw the apple, people knew that falling is fatal, yet the Gold Coast seems to be having a 'balcony plunge' a week. If Gold Coast people can't even respect the laws of physics, and think monkeying around on balconies is a great idea, no hope for them, never mind the trams.
I think the Darwin awards should at least give honorary mention to the Gold Coast
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Old September 28th, 2013, 01:35 PM   #2313
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i'll chuckle if someone get's stabbed on a balcony, falls off and onto a tram.


then stung by a blue bottle.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 02:08 PM   #2314
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Oh dear.

If it's as potentially confusing as the signage and printed instructions (see page 2), they better line up the panel beaters.

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Old September 28th, 2013, 02:24 PM   #2315
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What a strange comment to make??!

So you're going to have a good old chuckle when someones wife with the two kids in the back have a tram plough into them, because they were turning or blocking a tram track while they make a turn into the school??

Wow... imagine how simply ecstatic you will be then if one of the children gets killed in that accident.... you'll be laughing for a week no doubt.

Anyone stupid enough to queue across tracks deserves it. Same as the idiots that drive through boom gates and run in front of trains.
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"The small section of track in question in Southport has already had two trams travel over it safely on the way to the depot during deliveries," he said. "We confirmed yesterday there is no issue that requires tracks to be replaced."

Which clearly says there is a problem, but not one that requires the tracks to be replaced.

So, what problem is it? And since a tram has managed to get past it can't be too far out, or is it still too marginal for safety? And what do they propose to fix the problem? Grinding a bit off?
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Old September 28th, 2013, 03:07 PM   #2317
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Anyone stupid enough to queue across tracks deserves it.
Thanks for the confirmation that you are either:

1. a silly little boy

OR

2. Someone sadly mentally retarded.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 03:31 PM   #2318
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I would be disappointed that the father/mother will have killed their innocent children as a result of their own ignorance of the road rules or their own selfishness.

That said, if someone queued across an intersection, blocking your way through, would you really drive into their car to prove a point? I would just blast my horn, flash my high beams and give them the finger to show my dissatisfaction at their selfishness.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 03:47 PM   #2319
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Is Southport station finished YET? You'd think it was being worked on by snails.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 03:54 PM   #2320
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Negative people are so damn annoying...!
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