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Old January 2nd, 2013, 01:11 PM   #1321
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There is this one:

http://translink.com.au/resources/tr...gold-coast.pdf
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 03:06 AM   #1322
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Thanks, must be fairly new. Are there any maps that put that into perspective though, such as these examples?

http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Lo...ondara_LAM.pdf

http://www.sydneybuses.info/network-...s/east_map.pdf
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 03:28 AM   #1323
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you have to pull up the route you are after and it has a map
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 03:57 AM   #1324
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As for the light rail I had a sticky beak at the construction. Should be interesting once all the other details get started - new streetscapes etc.

Anyone seen any evidence of that happening yet? All the stuff that goes with the light rail that isn't the rail line itself?

Btw, the traffic was a mess around Surfers. I hope that's temporary.
We probably won't see any major streetscape reconstruction for a while yet, it will be done after the tracks sections are finished off. There's a bit of it happening up around the University, but that's mainly associated with the soon-to-be-finished Hospital.

As for the traffic being a mess around Surfers, when is it not?
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 04:02 AM   #1325
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They also did a lot of streetscaping around the Courthouse Hotel along Davenport Street. Then there was an article about 30k per seat, and it only has 1 backrest, blah blah, waste of money, blah. So annoying, because it looks great.
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 04:05 PM   #1326
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An earlier post mentioned the streetscapes being renewed with the light rail. There will be work done in the final stages, none is evident yet.
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 11:15 PM   #1327
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Does Translink publish a full Gold Coast transport system map? Only map I can find is a highway service one.
The current one is a rush job full of mistakes and virtually unusable. My sources have indicated there are better map products coming. They are probably going to keep with the vector diagrams for the railway and for what they are calling their "frequent" network map, which should come out following the current bus review.

I will be meeting some of the TransLink planning guys early next week to see what their thinking is on the Gold Coast bus system up until, and immediately upon, the LRT opening. I expect I will be sworn to secrecy and none of what I will see is going to be gospel at this stage, but it will be a good indication of their thinking.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 03:14 AM   #1328
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So in regards to the lightrail...

What is the preferred route when it inevitably gets extended to meet up with the Gold Coast rail line, i noticed in the Gold Coast 2030 Transport Draft that they intend to develop a new railway station at Parkwood(effectively Smith St-M1 interchange), this would provide the most direct route but is a Parkwood station really a necessity or should it just be routed to Helensvale?
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Old January 4th, 2013, 05:00 AM   #1329
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A Helensvale route would likely travel through the Coomabah Wetlands using Brisbane Road/GC Highway (after stopping at Harbour Town) passing quite a distance where there are absolutely no houses at all.

As for a potential Parkwood station... would have to use Napper Road? Another extremely low density route... they don't even have footpaths out there!
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Old January 4th, 2013, 08:12 AM   #1330
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^ The Parkwood option being examined is the old pre-2006 version / shortened version of the H2 option - run from the intersection of Parklands and Olsen to the preserved station site at Smith and Napper using the Smith St corridor with potentially one station en route walkable from Henry Cotton Dr.

The more I think about it the more I like it:
- Significantly faster and cheaper way of connecting to the Gold Coast line, to the point where GCCC may be able to fund a significant proportion just by itself.
- Best possible location for a park'n'ride for people off the walkable catchment or bus network, as there can be no better land use there and Helensvale is busy with local traffic demand for the Westfield.
- Faster travel times.
- Fewer trams required to serve the extension (maybe fewer than 4, if that many).
- Avoids the low density dead zone (wetlands/light industrial) between Discovery Dr at Helensvale and Harbour Town by building through an alternative, shorter dead zone.
- Bus travel times from Helensvale to Southport via Biggera Waters (current route 715) are already fast through this section, can just keep the same already highly legible route but run at higher frequency and with bus priority signalling.
- None of this precludes a line to Harbour Town and beyond (Helensvale or up Oxley Dr towards Paradise Pt and Hope Island) being built later.

Only big negative is that an extra Gold Coast line station means slightly longer travel time between Helensvale and Nerang. I don't think that outweighs the benefits.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 08:25 AM   #1331
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I think the long term plan is to have a InterCity Gold Coast rail service(the current express Gold Coast service) and a IntraCity service between Beenleigh & Reedy Creek so they can add new stations at Hope Island, Parkwood etc without slowing down the express service.

I actually prefer the Parkwood station option, for the reasons mentioned by SurfRail it is the fastest option for transfer between the HeavyRail -> Light Rail which should be a priority when designing the route.

It also doesn't preclude an extension to Harbour Town in the future, in 10years with more population growth and infill development around Hope Island, a spur-line(along Oxley Dr) from the GC UNi Hospital -> Harbour Town -> Hope Island Village Centre might become economically viable.

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Old January 9th, 2013, 05:20 PM   #1332
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Light rail bridge could be torn down

Oh dear. Hopefully the flood model is pretty.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 06:50 PM   #1333
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I fail to see how it could have that sort of effect on the river. :s
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Old January 10th, 2013, 08:44 AM   #1334
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This is another Light Rail project i'm glad to see getting built, but they are taking forever to build it, any future stages better not take this long to build. Well somehow I dont think Campbell Newman's government will pay for anymore trams in the gold coast.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 11:10 AM   #1335
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It's not really taking that long. We could have ended up like Edinburgh.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 11:37 AM   #1336
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This is another Light Rail project i'm glad to see getting built, but they are taking forever to build it, any future stages better not take this long to build. Well somehow I dont think Campbell Newman's government will pay for anymore trams in the gold coast.
Isn't most of the money coming from Canberra?
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Old January 10th, 2013, 01:24 PM   #1337
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Isn't most of the money coming from Canberra?
No... The projects cost is just shy of $1billion

The QLD govt contributed $460million
Fed govt: $360
GC council: $120
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Old January 10th, 2013, 01:43 PM   #1338
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they are taking forever to build it
Yeah, pity they didn't just wave their wand. You're not this happy chappy by any chance?

Statements like these, which are common, show that Goldlinq should have made a bigger media song and dance on the day the sites were officially handed over to them for construction, which was only 12 months ago, if that. Track laying commenced in September.

Another news item about the bridge.

On a different note: can anyone tell me why the GC rails are laid into concrete, but in Manchester and Edinburgh etc they are set with a rubber buffer. I can't imagine rubber lasting long in our sun. Manchester tram tracks Beautiful work, but still. Why don't they also use just concrete?

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Old January 10th, 2013, 02:30 PM   #1339
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Yeah, pity they didn't just wave their wand. You're not this happy chappy by any chance?
ugh, what a stupid old prick.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 11:24 PM   #1340
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well he is probably correct on both fronts.. It is effectively a 'tram' and in the past when there was less red tape and projects were engineered to a lower scale(especially trams) it would have probably been complete by now...

But its ridiculous to whinge about this, there are obviously reasons that it is taking time, i would rather it be constructed to a higher scale and provide provide a higher standard of service, its going to be the backbone of PT along the coastline for many years to come.
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