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Old July 29th, 2008, 10:30 PM   #1
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Old July 29th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #2
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German cities not damaged during WW2 nor afterwards by the Soviets

Basically I like visiting old style German cities that werent blown up (too badly) during the War and that werent systematically ruined by the commies. There arent many. Post pics of those that you know

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Old July 29th, 2008, 10:36 PM   #3
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Anyone know if Passau was bombed? Cant find info on that anywhere.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 01:07 AM   #4
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By the russians??? To my knowledge brits and especially americans with their carpet bombings destroyed way more that soviets.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 02:41 AM   #5
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They kinda did it to themselfs,germans blew up my cities center in 1944,and I think they got what was coming to them.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 04:08 AM   #6
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Anyone know if Passau was bombed? Cant find info on that anywhere.
Yes, although mainly the area of the train yard was attacked. Also, it was hit by artillery fire when US troops took the city.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 04:31 PM   #7
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Nice thread idea. But could you please post some smaller pics?
It's insane, I've gotta scroll over the whole desk. And please credit your sources, even if it's just Wiki.


Regarding the topic: Quedlinburg comes to my mind (as one of the 'bigger' towns - just some lil' artillery hits). Also Lindau at Constance Lake. The old towns of Konstanz, Goslar and Weimar weren't hit as well, if I remember correctly.

Anyway, there are lots of rather small towns (and some middle-size or small cities) which weren't (notably) damaged during this time. It'd be faineant to list them all.

By the way, is there a list regarding this? I couldn't find one (neither at Wiki nor elsewhere).
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Old July 30th, 2008, 05:29 PM   #8
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It would be hard to find a town that wasn't bombed or damaged by ground battle *at all*, even if it was just a couple of houses hit by stray bombs or a few barns set ablaze by fightercraft for target practice.

Regensburg, Bamberg, Weimar were all bombed. Heck even Heidelberg lost a house or two to singular bomb droppings on the old town.
It just shows how devastating the big RAF raids (on Dresden, Frankfurt etc.) were compared to artillery damage or the more pinpoint bombing on key facilities done by the USAF in that stage of the war.

BTW this is in lovely Kronach, 1945:
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Anyway of all the bigger towns that survived in relatively good condition, Regensburg is certainly number one, and the fact the town survived WW2 (and the post-war modernist craze) so well is nothing short of a miracle.
Regensburg is a town that was special before 1945 and it's even more special now.

Also among the "surviving" cities >100,000, Wiesbaden and Erfurt are probably the best.
Halle and Heidelberg have been spoiled quite a bit by cheap new architecture, while Fürth and Göttingen are ridiculously outclassed in beauty by smaller towns around them.

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Old July 31st, 2008, 02:28 AM   #9
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So which German region do you think was the least damaged one?
Rhein-Mosel? Harz? Franconia? Vorpommern? Oberlausitz?
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So which German region do you think was the least damaged one?
Rhein-Mosel? Harz? Franconia? Vorpommern? Oberlausitz?
Probably the Upper Palatinate.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 07:17 PM   #11
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well, there aren't many big cities there, are they?

I always thought that Trier didn't suffer so much, but now I read that they had 10000 houses back then, of which only 1400 were undamaged, 1600 were fully destroyed and the rest was damaged. ok, not as much as other cities, but still more than I thought.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 08:49 PM   #12
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well, there aren't many big cities there, are they?

I always thought that Trier didn't suffer so much, but now I read that they had 10000 houses back then, of which only 1400 were undamaged, 1600 were fully destroyed and the rest was damaged. ok, not as much as other cities, but still more than I thought.
The citycenter of Trier (my homecity) was destroyed to more than 40%. Pretty bad damage I'd say.
And Koblenz was hit even worse... Mainz too...
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Wiesbaden (275.685), Erfurt (202.929), Schwerin (95.855), Flensburg (87.792), Tübingen (83.813), Görlitz (56.724) all escaped major damage. And there are plenty of other cities that look decent as well.
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The citycenter of Trier (my homecity) was destroyed to more than 40%. Pretty bad damage I'd say.
And Koblenz was hit even worse... Mainz too...
true.

I only was once in Mainz, but it look quite beautiful, so they did a rather good job in rebuilding. Koblenz didn't. There are only very few beautiful places. And in Trier, it's especially the area around Viehmarkt that hurts my eyes.
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Old August 17th, 2008, 02:06 PM   #15
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Wiesbaden (275.685), Erfurt (202.929), Schwerin (95.855), Flensburg (87.792), Tübingen (83.813), Görlitz (56.724) all escaped major damage. And there are plenty of other cities that look decent as well.
Indeed. Celle (71.146) as well, eh? They just bombed the railways, the city surrendered some days before there'd have been major destructions.

Nearly the same case for Marburg in Hesse (79.240): Just some bombing around the central station and industries.

Funnily, some US scouts leaved a message for the city - they wouldn't destroy it, because they wanna live there: "Marburg und Bad Nauheim wollen wir schonen, bei Euch wollen wir später wohnen."
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Does anyone know if Lutz Germany is intact?
I need info on it. All I know is that it is in southwest Germany and has 382 people.
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Old September 12th, 2008, 01:28 AM   #17
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Does anyone know if Lutz Germany is intact?
I need info on it. All I know is that it is in southwest Germany and has 382 people.
It doesn't look like it's been destroyed (at least not in the 20th century).


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How lovely!
I was concerned it was blown apart.
My family is from there. From what family legend says, they were pretty wealthy back in the 1500's.
I hate to be a bother but what about Lutzerath?
I looked on Flickr and Wikipedia but I couldn't find anything.
It is in the same area. Both have Lutz in them, why is that?

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Old September 18th, 2008, 08:24 PM   #19
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How lovely!
I was concerned it was blown apart.
My family is from there. From what family legend says, they were pretty wealthy back in the 1500's.
I hate to be a bother but what about Lutzerath?
I looked on Flickr and Wikipedia but I couldn't find anything.
It is in the same area. Both have Lutz in them, why is that?
Lützerath:


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http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCtzerath

The reason you didn't find anything is that you have to transcribe the umlaut "ü" as "ue". Lütz named after the Lütz creek (Lützbach) in the area.
But I'm afraid I have bad news for you!
This village exists since 1168, but it will be destroyed and cease to exist in 2017 due to strip mining operations!


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Old September 18th, 2008, 08:29 PM   #20
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Schwerin (95.855), .
Schwerin was an "hopital city" durring WWII.
Celle was never bombed.
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