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Old February 21st, 2010, 12:35 PM   #61
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Out of the big cities, probably Munich. It's very beautiful, but it does have lot of modern stuff too, but it doesn't really interfere too much with the historical center like in Berlin. I don't think any major city can escape modern architecture. Even cities like Rome, Paris and Vienna have ugly skyscrapers.
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Old February 21st, 2010, 04:15 PM   #62
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Although Munich was very badly damaged during WW2. We can only be thankful that such masterpieces as the stupendous Residenz have been carefully reconstructed and restored.

http://www.residenz-muenchen.de/engl...m/zerstoer.htm
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:44 PM   #63
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WHAT?!
They are demolishing it?
My god. I am horrified. The reason I've been looking is because my family founded a few of the towns(according to legend.) and it has been such a family honor to have been the founders of medieval towns.
Is there anyone trying to stop this?
I appreciate that these posts are somewhat old, but I think there has been some confusion. Lütz, the first place you asked about and were given a link to by Clay Hefner, is in Rheinland-Pfalz, which is more or less in the south west of Germany and so is presumably the place you were looking for. Therefore, since you said Lutzerath is in the same area, and there is a village of this name just down the road from Lütz, this is presumably where you were looking for. It is not however the place that Clay Hefner linked to in response. That is Lützerath in Nordrhein-Westfalen, which is indeed under threat of demolition for a lignite mine which has happened to scores of other villages in this area. It would seem he was confused by the fact that only one of the villages you asked about had the umlaut in its name. You will be pleased to know then that your Lutzerath isn't being demolished after all.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 05:35 PM   #64
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Old March 30th, 2010, 02:10 AM   #65
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The post-war reconstructions are absolutely not necessary.


Not the same again.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 11:56 AM   #66
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Old April 1st, 2010, 02:55 AM   #67
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They're so annoying, and they always have that smiley face at the end of their posts. It's a blurb of absolute nonsense, followed by a condescending emoticon.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 12:36 AM   #72
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Eh?? Can you unban erbse please?! He's a very good member and makes a lot of interesting posts!!

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Old April 2nd, 2010, 04:34 AM   #74
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What would be equally interesting is to know which of the heavily bombed German city did the best job at reconstruction.
I would also consider Hamburg. This city was the first to be utterly obliterated in July of 1943. While much of the destroyed parts and buildings have not been rebuilt, they remain as ruins so hope is still there that one day a developer may reconstruct.

Lubeck is another.
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In terms of untouched or semi-untouched in the war, Bamberg also rises to the top of the list. Gorgeous city.

Also, Coburg...once the literal capital of european royalty. It got thru with war essentially safely.

But, the sad and unfortunate truth is that Germany, unlike other European nations, had several large, attractive, and important cities due to the manner in which the nation was created--by joining many nations/states together. With only a very few major and second tier cities making it throught Churchill's terror bombing without an overwhelming amount of destruction, it was, and remains, a nearly impossible task to recreate what was lost.

the modernists often times feel that a new look will help ease the historical pains. Hogwash. I think the visual assault of misplaced glass and steel only underscores the losses.
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But, the sad and unfortunate truth is that Germany, unlike other European nations, had several large, attractive, and important cities due to the manner in which the nation was created--by joining many nations/states together. With only a very few major and second tier cities making it throught Churchill's terror bombing without an overwhelming amount of destruction, it was, and remains, a nearly impossible task to recreate what was lost.
I agree. In my opinion pre-war Germany had the most architecturally interesting and important cities north of the Alps. There was certainly nothing in the UK to compare with Nuremberg, Dresden, or a dozen others I could mention. I would suggest that there were more medieval houses in Frankfurt than in the rest of the UK's cities combined.
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I thoroughly agree.

I loved the city of Erfurt whose mainly medieval urban texture escaped WWII almost unscathed.

Germany has lost loads of interesting architectures, still a lot has been deservedly rebuilt. And I'm glad your planners deem the work of reconstruction is not over yet.

Whenever I travel "north of the alps" I find german cities the most interesting ones by far, whereas in other countries you can find extremely well kept towns - which seldom touch my heart though.
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I agree. In my opinion pre-war Germany had the most architecturally interesting and important cities north of the Alps. There was certainly nothing in the UK to compare with Nuremberg, Dresden, or a dozen others I could mention. I would suggest that there were more medieval houses in Frankfurt than in the rest of the UK's cities combined.
Right. I think the anger and jeolosy of Churchill's inner circle as well as Roosevelt's that Germany had such a treasure of architectural jewels led them to want to pulverize the nation. Clearly, the mass carpet bombing was not just to win militarily. Churchill was a rabit Germanophobe and he had wanted the nation turned to dust since the early 1900s.

And, as noted, Germany offered the longest list of bomber targets of the era.

Unfortunately, rebuilt medieval structures are "fake" in terms of authenticity of the originals. nonetheless, rebuilds with an allegiance to the original design and intent is far superior to making everything look like another McDonald's.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 07:41 PM   #80
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^ Totally agree to this.
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