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Old March 21st, 2010, 10:43 PM   #281
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British Airways strike hits Scottish flights

Flights to Scotland have been hit by cabin crew strike action at British Airways after talks between BA and the Unite union collapsed.

The three-day walkout began at midnight, with a further four days of action set to commence on 27 March.

The dispute has affected a number of flights to and from Glasgow International Airport.

Passengers travelling on the affected days have been advised to check details on the British Airways website.

At Glasgow International Airport, nine flights were scheduled and five were due to go ahead. On Sunday 21 March, 12 flights were scheduled with six due to go ahead.

On Monday 22 March, 15 flights were scheduled, eight were due to go ahead.

All flights to London City are operating as normal, while three of the airlines four daily flights to London Gatwick are being operated by Ryanair, the fourth daily flight has been cancelled.

Mr Walsh said: "Tens of thousands of BA people stand ready to serve our passengers and BA will be flying and will continue to fly through these periods of industrial action."

He added that he remained available for talks on reaching a "sensible" agreement, but said that loss-making BA must cut costs.

Mr Woodley had called on BA to put an earlier deal to end the strikes "back on the table" - a move he said would allow him to call off the strike while union members considered it.


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06:45 BA2953 LONDON GATWICK CANCELLED
06:45 BA8721 LONDON CITY ON TIME
07:10 BA1475 LONDON HEATHROW CANCELLED
09:55 BA1474 LONDON HEATHROW CANCELLED
12:45 BA1483 LONDON HEATHROW CANCELLED
12:55 BA1482 LONDON HEATHROW CANCELLED

13:50 BA8727 LONDON CITY ON TIME
13:55 BA2959 LONDON GATWICK ON TIME (OPERATED BY RYANAIR)
14:00 BA1487 LONDON HEATHROW CANCELLED
15:25 BA1484 LONDON HEATHROW CANCELLED
16:05 BA1489 LONDON HEATHROW CANCELLED

16:20 BA2964 LONDON GATWICK ON TIME (OPERATED BY RYANAIR)
16:30 BA1486 LONDON HEATHROW ON TIME
17:00 BA8729 LONDON CITY ON TIME
17:15 BA1493 LONDON HEATHROW ON TIME
18:20 BA2964 LONDON GATWICK ON TIME (OPERATED BY RYANAIR)
18:50 BA1492 LONDON HEATHROW CANCELLED
19:00 BA2965 LONDON GATWICK ON TIME (OPERATED BY RYANAIR)
20:30 BA8730 LONDON CITY ON TIME
21:40 BA1494 LONDON HEATHROW CANCELLED
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Am I really reading what I am reading??? British Airways flight operated by Ryanair? WTF? OMG!! It can't be true.
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Am I really reading what I am reading??? British Airways flight operated by Ryanair? WTF? OMG!! It can't be true.
Ryanair are one of a number of airlines BA has chartered in to cover their own flights.

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Czech Airlines
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Monarch Airlines
Ryanair
Titan Airways
Transavia
Viking Airlines
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So you pay a ticket with British Airways and then you travel with Ryanair?! I would be mad!
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So you pay a ticket with British Airways and then you travel with Ryanair?! I would be mad!
Yes. Why would you be mad? Its either that or your flight gets cancelled and Ryanair aircraft are in allot better condition that British Airways aircraft.
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Yes. Why would you be mad? Its either that or your flight gets cancelled and Ryanair aircraft are in allot better condition that British Airways aircraft.
It's the service not the aircraft.
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It's the service not the aircraft.
+1, that's the thing.

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Yes. Why would you be mad? Its either that or your flight gets cancelled and Ryanair aircraft are in allot better condition that British Airways aircraft.
Are you sure of that? I don't think so.
I see what you mean with it being the only possible solution, but you must admit, that if you pay a ticket with BA (far from cheap), you would like to receive BA's quality service, and no RYR's service (which just doesn't exist).
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+1, that's the thing.

Are you sure of that? I don't think so.
I see what you mean with it being the only possible solution, but you must admit, that if you pay a ticket with BA (far from cheap), you would like to receive BA's quality service, and no RYR's service (which just doesn't exist).
Ryanair's aircraft are allot newer. I think Ryanair's oldest aircraft is just 3 or 4 years old, BA are still operating aircraft that are 20+ years old.

The legroom on BA short haul is the same as Ryanair and the service on BA short haul is pretty much the same as Ryanair. No free meals, no free drinks etc.

This is all part of BA’s winder problems, they have high fares but offer the same service as the low cost carriers. Until BA either A) lower their fares or B) dramatically increase service standards they will continue to head towards the history books.
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Ryanair's aircraft are allot newer. I think Ryanair's oldest aircraft is just 3 or 4 years old, BA are still operating aircraft that are 20+ years old.

The legroom on BA short haul is the same as Ryanair and the service on BA short haul is pretty much the same as Ryanair. No free meals, no free drinks etc.

This is all part of BA’s winder problems, they have high fares but offer the same service as the low cost carriers. Until BA either A) lower their fares or B) dramatically increase service standards they will continue to head towards the history books.
My last trip with BA was in January VIE-LHR-JFK and back. I considered their service average and not that overpriced compared to other european carriers. I would say it was appropriate on all flights.
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Ryanair's aircraft are allot newer. I think Ryanair's oldest aircraft is just 3 or 4 years old, BA are still operating aircraft that are 20+ years old.

The legroom on BA short haul is the same as Ryanair and the service on BA short haul is pretty much the same as Ryanair. No free meals, no free drinks etc.

This is all part of BA’s winder problems, they have high fares but offer the same service as the low cost carriers. Until BA either A) lower their fares or B) dramatically increase service standards they will continue to head towards the history books.
But you can't recline a Ryanair seat.
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But you can't recline a Ryanair seat.
Many would see that as a positive.
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BA finds an unlikely ally in Ryanair boss O'Leary

Michael O'Leary, the Ryanair chief executive who once ran an advert branding British Airways "Expensive BAstards", has leapt to the defence of the UK flag-carrier in its battle with union Unite.

Burying past differences, Mr O'Leary backed the way his counterpart at BA, Willie Walsh, was handling the strike and rounded on Unite, which claims to represent 12,000 BA cabin crew.

"We believe the Unite union are a bunch of dimwits," Mr O'Leary said. "It's insane that the cabin crew are striking at a time of recession. The timing is spectacularly stupid."

Describing Tony Woodley, Unite's joint-general secretary, as a "dinosaur", Mr O'Leary said he hoped that the crew "realise that they are lions being led by donkeys and overpaid donkeys at that.

"BA is in financial difficulties. It has an enormous pension deficit. But at the top of the trade union movement in the UK they have a lot of old headbangers clinging on to the 1960s and 1970s."

Mr O'Leary said Ryanair had leased BA three planes last weekend and that Mr Walsh called him on Monday requesting "four or five" for the four-day walk-out planned from this Saturday.

He said he was prepared to help a rival, noting that "it's not often in my life that I am in support of Willie Walsh", but felt it was "vital that they win this dispute and the union loses it".

Renowned for having little truck with unions, Mr O'Leary said: "Most other airlines don't want to upset the goons in the trade unions but we have no relations with them."

However, he could not resist a dig at BA, saying the planes leased to BA last weekend "were all on time too, which I must say gave the BA passengers a bit of a shock".

BA, which has said the first three strike days cost the airline £21m, attempted to turn up the pressure on Unite last night by claiming that it would cancel fewer planes for the second walk-out because more crew were willing to cross the picket line.

"As a result of the numbers of crew wanting to work, we are increasing significantly our flying schedule and will be operating a full schedule at Gatwick and London City airports," Mr Walsh said. At Heathrow, BA intends to fly 70pc of long-haul and 55pc of short-haul flights.

Mr Woodley hit back saying: "This schedule has more holes than a Swiss cheese. Passengers are paying for management machismo. BA management should spend more time on addressing their employees' concerns and less on fantasy schedules sending empty planes to unknown destinations."

Mr Walsh stressed that "our door remains open to Unite, day or night, if it wants to find a sensible settlement".

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Striking BA crew forfeit travel perks

British Airways has withdrawn travel perks from staff who strike.

The carrier confirmed that those who took part in last weekend’s three-day walk out would not enjoy the major discounts on travel that British Airways employees get on top of pay.

Staff union Unite blasted the carrier for its “vindictive” action. The union plans to oppose the move officially, despite the fact that BA says the perk is non-contractual and can be withdrawn at any time at the discretion of management.

Chief executive Willie Walsh warned staff of the removal of the perks before they walked out last Saturday.

A BA spokesman said: "The industrial action impacted on our operation and our customers and we will undoubtedly suffer additional costs and further losses as a result."

The airline says it lost £21 million because of the most recent industrial action.
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BA has been considering a merger with Iberia for some time
British Airways and Spanish airline Iberia have signed a deal to merge and create one of the world's biggest airline groups.
The merger, which was provisionally agreed in November last year, is expected to be completed by the end of the year.
In a statement the two companies said the merger would benefit shareholders, employees and customers.
It is expected to save the airlines 400m euros ($533m; £350m) a year.
The new company will be called International Airlines Group, but the BA and Iberia brands will continue to operate as normal.
The company will have its headquarters in London, with BA shareholders retaining 55% ownership of the company.
In total the group will operate 408 aircraft and carry more than 58 million passengers a year, the two companies said.

BA chief executive Willie Walsh said the merger would be good for customers.
"The merged company will provide customers with a larger combined network," he said.
Iberia's chairman and chief executive Antonio Vazquez said the merger was important for the future of the airline industry.
"This is an important step in the process towards creating one of the world's leading global airlines that will be better equipped to compete with other major airlines and participate in future industry consolidation," he said.
Pension problem
The merger is seen as a chance for the two airlines to cut costs following two very tough years for the airline industry.
Both BA and Iberia are expected to report heavy losses this year, with BA predicted to announce its biggest annual loss since privatisation.
The airlines are also regarded as a good match, having few overlapping routes.
The merger will also allow the company to compete more effectively with other European giants including Air France-KLM and Germany's Lufthansa.
The airlines are expected to complete the merger by December, subject to approval from regulators and shareholders.
One stumbling block could be BA's pension problems. Its two final-salary pension schemes have a combined deficit of £3.7bn, which it needs to cut.
Last month, the airline agreed plans with unions to increase pension contributions to close the deficit.
But Iberia still has the option to call off the merger if it decides that the plans are not satisfactory.
Plans for a tie-up between BA and Iberia date back long before the current troubles in the airline industry.
The two airlines first began working together in 1999 following the privatisation of the Spanish flag-carrier.
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British Airways and Iberia sign merger agreement


BA has been considering a merger with Iberia for some time


British Airways and Spanish airline Iberia have signed a deal to merge and create one of the world's biggest airline groups.

The merger, which was provisionally agreed in November last year, is expected to be completed by the end of this year.

In a statement, the two companies said the merger would benefit shareholders, employees and customers.

It is expected to save the airlines 400m euros ($533m; £350m) a year.

The new company will be called International Airlines Group, but the BA and Iberia brands will continue to operate as normal.

The company will have its headquarters in London, with BA shareholders retaining 55% ownership of the company.

Further consolidation

In total, the group will operate 419 aircraft, flying to more than 200 destinations, and carry a total of 62 million passengers a year, BA said.



BA chief executive Willie Walsh said the merger would be good for customers.

"The merged company will provide customers with a larger combined network," he said.

Iberia's chairman and chief executive Antonio Vazquez said the merger was a key move.

"This is an important step in the process towards creating one of the world's leading global airlines that will be better equipped to compete with other major airlines and participate in future industry consolidation," he said.

The merger is seen as a chance for the two airlines to cut costs following two very tough years for the airline industry.

Both BA and Iberia are expected to report heavy losses this year, with BA predicted to announce its biggest annual loss since privatisation.

The airlines are also regarded as a good match, having few overlapping routes.

The merger will also allow the company to compete more effectively with other European giants including Air France-KLM and Germany's Lufthansa.

The signing of the merger deal follows reports on Wednesday that two US airlines - US Airways and United Airlines - were also in talks over a possible merger.

New alliances

Analysts welcomed the move in light of the current economic environment in which global airlines are struggling for survival.

"The merger makes huge sense for passengers and airlines alike. It will allow participating airlines to spread their cost base, something they desperately need to do," said Ashley Steel, global chair for transport and infrastructure at KPMG.

Aviation analyst Laurie Price gives his reaction to the deal

Along with other observers, Mr Steel said that the merger was a stepping stone towards a transatlantic alliance with American Airlines.

The new partners may even cast their net wider, said Stephen Furlong at Davy Stockbrokers: "The tie-up with American is the next thing on BA and Iberia's agenda now and this agreement brings that closer, but they are probably looking at European and Asian carriers too."

The Unite union, which represents thousands of BA workers, said it supported the deal, but "not at any cost".

"Mergers mean synergies, and synergies usually mean job losses and the levelling down of terms and conditions," said Steve Turner, Unite national officer for civil aviation.

He said workers must be consulted on any "key decisions" about their future.

BA is currently in negotiations with Unite to prevent further strikes by cabin crew, who went on strike for seven days last month over pay and working conditions.

Pension problem

BA and Iberia are expected to complete the merger by December, subject to approval from regulators and shareholders.

One stumbling block could be BA's pension problems. Its two final-salary pension schemes have a combined deficit of £3.7bn, which it needs to cut.

Last month, the airline agreed plans with unions to increase pension contributions to close the deficit.

But those plans still need to be agreed with pension trustees and the pensions regulator. They could yet insist that BA pays in more money to fill the deficit.

If Iberia is not happy with those demands, a specific clause in the contract allows it to call off the merger deal.

Plans for a tie-up between BA and Iberia date back long before the current troubles in the airline industry.

The two airlines first began working together in 1999 following the privatisation of the Spanish flag-carrier. BA currently has a 13% stake in Iberia.

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The tie-up will create a new holding company called International Airlines Group, but the airlines will retain their current operations and continue to use their individual brands.
I just read the newS from MSN.
http://money.uk.msn.com/news/article...ntid=152947163
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British Airways - the national flag carrier of the United Kingdom
So nothing more natural than a merge with Iberia ...
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So nothing more natural than a merge with Iberia ...
Virgin Atlantic is the national flag carrier of the United Kingdom.
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Are you kidding?
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Are you kidding?
No.

British Airways only fly to/from London. 70% of Britain's live out with the London area.

Virgin Atlantic fly from London, Glasgow and Manchester; Britain's three biggest air hubs. By flying from these three cities, it gives Virgin far greater coverage of the whole United Kingdom. London for the South, Manchester for the middle and Glasgow for the North.

Virgin Atlantic have the contract to fly the Queen and all other members of the Royal Family on official state visits.

Virgin Atlantic have the contract to fly the British Prime Minister on all official state visits.

Virgin Atlantic have the contract to fly the England national football team for all International football matches.

This all equals one thing; Britain's National Flag Carrier = Virgin Atlantic!
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