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Old October 2nd, 2007, 05:08 AM   #101
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Hopefully we will see them in Canada.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 05:53 AM   #102
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I would still rather fly on the new A380 for Virgin so I can give a shot at the casino lol
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 06:12 AM   #103
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I don't think VS will ever take deliveries of their A380s. They said they don't want quads anymore. And I think even if they do take them, they will NOT put casinos! That space will probably be better used as just normal passenger seats.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 06:25 PM   #104
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^ They didn't say they don't want quads. Currently Virgin have an all quad fleet (747-400s and A340-600s) and more A340-600s are still arriving from Airbus. Indeed it was only a couple of years ago they had a slogan "4 engines 4 long haul"!! They may regret having chosen the A340-600 over the twin engine Boeing 777 but I am sure they will eventually take delivery of their A380s.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 07:12 PM   #105
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It's interesting that both BA and Virgin have chosen 787s and A380s for their fleets. Also what happened to the 10 x 777-300ERs that BA reserved? Does anyone know if they are still going through with that?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 01:23 AM   #106
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VS did say that they will try to avoid quads... I'll try to find that link if I can.
And I am pretty sure they will not take the A380s.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 02:07 PM   #107
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A380 in BA colors, I couldn't ask anything more,

Hopefully everything will go according to plan with A380, cant wait for first revenue flight later this months with SQ
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Old July 16th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #108
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British Airways lose over 1000 bags every day

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1,000 bags are still going missing every day at T5

The full catalogue of errors that led to the shambolic opening of Heathrow's new £4.3billion Terminal 5 can be revealed today.

Hundreds of flights were cancelled and tens of thousands of bags went missing during a series of disasters on 27 March, which unions claimed could have been avoided.

Continued here: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...+T5/article.do
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Old July 16th, 2008, 02:27 AM   #109
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I thought that British Airways was a better airline, but it seems it isin't
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Old July 16th, 2008, 02:29 AM   #110
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Something’s just never change...
More likely a case of a Union Member being liberal with the facts, and a media site happy to swallow the bait:
http://www.uk-airport-news.info/heat...ws-130708c.htm
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Old July 17th, 2008, 03:47 AM   #111
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******* journalists. twats.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 12:27 AM   #112
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British Airways, Iberia in merger talks

British Airways, Iberia in merger talks

LONDON (AFP) — British Airways and Spanish national carrier Iberia said Tuesday they are holding talks on a multi-billion-dollar merger as the aviation sector battles soaring fuel prices.

"British Airways and Iberia are holding talks with a view to an all-share merger between the two companies. The negotiations are supported unanimously by the boards of both companies," the companies said in a statement.

Shares in BA and Iberia spiked in London and Madrid in reaction to the announcement.

The two groups have a combined stock market capitalisation of about 8.6 billion dollars (5.5 billion euros) according to AFP calculations using current share price values.

A tie-up would rival Air France-KLM, the world's biggest airline that was born in 2004 after the merger of France's national carrier and Dutch peer KLM.

The dramatic merger plan comes as the world's biggest airlines face commercial headwinds from record high oil prices, which ramp up jet fuel costs, and weak consumer spending that dampens demand for air travel.

"The aviation landscape is changing and airline consolidation is long overdue," BA chief executive Willie Walsh said in the release.

"The combined balance sheet, anticipated synergies and network fit between the airlines make a merger an attractive proposition, particularly in the current economic environment.

"We've had a successful relationship with Iberia for a decade and are confident that both companies' shareholders would benefit from the proposed tie-up," Walsh added.

BA, which holds 13.15 percent of Iberia, had abandoned takeover plans for the carrier in November last year after a Spanish bank built up a substantial blocking position.

Iberia, the market leader on flights between Europe and Latin America, also revealed Tuesday that it had bought a 2.99 percent holding in British Airways and has the option to buy another 6.99 percent.

"The airlines' shareholdings reinforce the mutual interest of both companies in each other," said the joint statement.

"It is expected that it will take several months to reach agreement on the terms of the merger and to finalise a joint business and integration plan for the combined group."

Under the tentative proposals, the British Airways and Iberia brands would both be retained.

Following the news, BA's share price rose 7.46 percent to 252 pence, while Iberia shares jumped 12.8 percent to 1.85 euros as trading resumed in Madrid after a temporary suspension.

"A merger would be good news for our customers and enhance our existing relationship," Iberia chairman and chief executive Fernando Conte said in the statement.

"We've worked together for nearly 10 years and a tie-up would build on that success." He added that it would also strengthen the Oneworld alliance -- a network of ten airlines working together to cut costs -- and strengthen Madrid's position as the European gateway to Latin America.

Oneworld also includes American Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, Japan Airlines, LAN, Malev, Qantas and Royal Jordanian.

Soaring fuel costs, coupled with the credit crunch, have caused the collapse of 25 carriers since the start of 2008. Only airlines owned by oil-producing Gulf states, such as Emirates, appear immune to the aviation downturn.

BA, which unveils first-quarter results on Friday, is pushing ahead with its OpenSkies transatlantic airline amid reports that it also plans to slash short-haul flights because soaring fuel costs.

OpenSkies, which was created to take advantage of more flexible rules on carriers across the Atlantic, said Monday it would launch a new daily service between Amsterdam and New York.

The carrier, a wholly-owned subsidiary of British Airways, was launched in June as a "premium" airline initially on the New York-Paris route.

OpenSkies claims to be the first airline created on the basis of the US-European Union open-skies pact that allows carriers increased access to each other's markets.


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Old July 30th, 2008, 01:38 AM   #113
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✈ | BA°/IB° | IAG-Carriers: British Airways and Iberia

British Airways, Europe's third- biggest carrier, said it plans to merge with Spain's Iberia Lineas Aereas de Espana as slower economies and higher fuel costs wipe out earnings.

The airlines are in talks about an all-stock transaction that would create a new company with two fleets and a dual listing in London and Madrid, the companies said in a statement Tuesday. Iberia shares rose 21% in Madrid, giving the carrier a market value of 1.89 billion euros ($US2.94 billion). British Airways climbed 6%.

A deal would be the largest in Europe since Air France acquired KLM for $US826.9 million in 2003. At least 24 carriers have stopped flying or filed for bankruptcy protection this year, and earlier this month British Airways, which owns 13.2% of Iberia, said it would cut passenger capacity and stop hiring.

''There are some real revenue synergies here,'' said Gert Zonneveld, a London-based analyst at Panmure Gordon. ''There will be a level of costs that can be taken out of the business anywhere from finance to HR operation to looking at the fleet and engineering and maintenance costs.''

Record oil prices have made fuel the industry's single biggest expense, threatening earnings and prompting many carriers, including British Airways, to increase fuel surcharges. The world's airlines may lose more than a combined $US6.1 billion this year, according to the International Air Transport Association.

''The aviation landscape is changing and airline consolidation is long overdue,'' British Airways chief executive Willie Walsh said in the statement.

Iberia's network complements that of British Airways, with the Spanish carrier offering routes to Latin America that its larger rival doesn't. The new company will also have an advantage in financing the purchase of new planes, Walsh said at a conference in Madrid, where Iberia is based.

The UK airline in November dropped a plan to bid for Iberia with US buyout firm TPG after banks including Caja Madrid built up stakes in the Spanish airline. Caja Madrid now holds 22.99%, according to BA.

Iberia said Tuesday it has bought 2.99% of British Airways and holds a further 6.99% in contracts linked to BA's share price.

British Airways gained 14 pence to 248.5 pence in London trading. Iberia jumped 34 cents to 1.98 euros.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 01:41 AM   #114
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Which two European flag carriers are next?
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Old July 30th, 2008, 01:43 AM   #115
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So they still wouldn't fly under the same banner correct?
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Old July 30th, 2008, 02:59 AM   #116
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The title of this thread is a little misleading; all that has been announced is that BA and Iberia are holding talks on a possible merger.

Likewise, Austrian now appears to be in talks with Lufthansa regarding a possible take-over by the latter.

See this thread:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=674476

and here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=23298728
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Old July 30th, 2008, 03:16 AM   #117
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Good news!

It will be the 3rd biggest airline of the world.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 06:44 AM   #118
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Likewise, Austrian now appears to be in talks with Lufthansa regarding a possible take-over by the latter.

See this thread:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=674476

and here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=23298728
So it's a proposed Airline Anschluss.

//had to do that, sorry
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Old July 31st, 2008, 07:28 PM   #119
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So it's a proposed Airline Anschluss.

//had to do that, sorry
Sorry the information I had when I made this post was out of date. I had a look at what is happening with Austrian, and posted here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=23360536
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I personally think it'd a good idea. Now I just wish they'd do the same with AA
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