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Old August 5th, 2008, 11:58 AM   #121
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^ Well they cannot merge with AA because of restrictive US rules on foreign ownership of airlines, but they are simulataneously conducting talks with AA on a much closer level of integration.
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Old August 5th, 2008, 04:38 PM   #122
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Sticking with a US carrier with all sorts of labour restrictions? Probably not the best thing to do in this high-cost operating environment.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 12:43 PM   #123
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Sticking with a US carrier with all sorts of labour restrictions? Probably not the best thing to do in this high-cost operating environment.
It would not be relevant if as is proposed they are only looking at co-operation at the marketing, revenue sharing, and scheduling level.

The AA/BA/Iberia tie-up on the North Atlantic under the Open-Skies agreement is the last of the big three alliances to seek ATI from the US Government.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 02:52 AM   #124
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Not surprising at all, especially considering that they were already in the same alliance. Expect more such mergers in the future. For example SAS and Austrian Airlines merging with Lufthansa or CSA Czech Airlines merging with Air France-KLM.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 03:45 AM   #125
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Not surprising at all, especially considering that they were already in the same alliance. Expect more such mergers in the future. For example SAS and Austrian Airlines merging with Lufthansa or CSA Czech Airlines merging with Air France-KLM.
Strictly speaking, these are not mergers.

The AA/BA/Iberia tie-up is an operational agreement which seeks immunity from prosecution for such areas as ticket prices and joint scheduling of services along with revenue sharing on specific routes. This follows the US ATI agreements already granted to the SkyTeam and Star Alliance groupings which allow a greater degree of cooperation through the Alliance structures.

The discussions about the proposed BA/Iberia grouping will see a new company formed that will take up share holdings of both airlines, but the latter will remain separate entities to preserve landing rights in those countries that have not yet renegotiated landing rights with the EU rather than individual member states. I believe the new company will hold no more than 49% in each airline but I am not sure about this yet. The grouping, if it went ahead would follow the Air France KLM model were there is still a separate share holding in KLM in the Netherlands. Other European ties-up involving airlines that fly outside the EU/EFTA area are likely to follow a similar model; i.e. Cesky, Austrian and SAS.

SAS have indicated that they intend to stay independent (at least for now) and have a number of options that they can pursue. Lufthansa already has BMI and Austrian on its plate and the diverse operations of the SAS Group may be one too many for the foreseeable future. See this post:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...8&postcount=33

Air France KLM may be ready for another take over but it is possible that they will look at the Spanish market and Air Europa as being more important at this time, but may also end involved in Alitalia after all.
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Old June 4th, 2009, 11:35 AM   #126
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The airline, headquartered in Waterside, Harmondsworth, London Borough of Hillingdon, is the largest airline in the United Kingdom based on fleet size, international flights and international destinations. Its main hubs are London Heathrow and London Gatwick.

The British Airways Group was formed on 1 September 1974 through nationalisation by the (then) Labour Government. BA was formed from two large London-based airlines BOAC and BEA and two much smaller regional airlines Cambrian Airways Cardiff and Northeast Airlines Newcastle. All four companies were dissolved on 31 March 1974 to form British Airways (BA). The company was privatised in February 1987. It expanded with the acquisition of British Caledonian in 1988 and some of the routes of Gatwick-based carrier Dan-Air in 1992. The formation of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic in 1984 began a tense relationship with BA which ended in "one of the most bitter and protracted libel actions in aviation history" in 1993 in which BA apologised "unreservedly" for a "dirty tricks" campaign against Virgin and paid damages and legal costs.

For a number of years the airline had a large Boeing fleet, but in November 1998 it placed its first direct order for Airbus aircraft. The company's next major order was the start of its replacement of its long haul fleet, ordering Airbus A380s and Boeing 787s in 2007. The centrepiece of the airline's long haul fleet is the Boeing 747-400; the airline is the largest operator of this type in the world.

British Airways has discontinued all direct overseas and internal flights from UK airports other than from Heathrow and Gatwick. BA's UK passengers originating at non-London airports must now connect via London or use other airlines with direct services.

British Airways is listed on the London Stock Exchange and is a constituent of the FTSE 100 Index.

Until 2008 British Airways was the largest airline of the United Kingdom, measured by passenger numbers. In 2008 the airline carried 35.7 million passengers. Rival United Kingdom carrier EasyJet carried 44.5 million passengers in the same year, taking the title from British Airways.

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British Airways resumes Saudi Arabia flights

British Airways has operated its first flights to Saudi Arabia in four years, restoring two lucrative connections with Jeddah and capital city Riyadh.

The flights touched down in the kingdom on Sunday (May 31), marking the start of BA's new five-times-per-week timetable for both destinations.

A Boeing 777 configured with four cabin classes will be servicing the new routes.

In 2005, the flag carrier withdrew all flights to Saudi Arabia following a spate of security scares, which had prompted rival carrier bmi to step up its presence.

But speaking after the inaugural flights had touched down, airline spokesman Paolo De Renzisc insisted: "British Airways has never taken its eyes off Saudi Arabia."

He added: "We remain committed to offering our Saudi customers services befitting British Airways' long-established global reputation for premium excellence."

Evening departures to Jeddah will now take off from London Heathrow on Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday; while overnight services to Riyadh will be operated on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday.
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British Airways business traffic falls sharply

British Airways’ premium passenger traffic fell sharply in May, as lucrative business travellers continue to desert in large numbers from the UK flag carrier as well as from many of the world’s other leading long-haul carriers.

The global economic recession has taken a particularly heavy toll on premium long-haul air travel, as corporations and financial institutions either cut their travel budgets or insist on personnel trading down to the cheaper cabins.

BA said Wednesday its premium traffic had fallen 17.2 per cent year-on-year in May following a fall of 17.7 per cent in April. Volumes of premium traffic, where BA traditionally generates the bulk of its profits, have been falling steeply year-on-year since September, but the rate of decline has accelerated in the past couple of months.

The airline said market conditions were unchanged with premium volumes under pressure and average fare levels under pressure in all cabins.

Some low-cost carriers operating only in short-haul markets are performing more strongly than the legacy full service airlines helped in part by passengers trading down. Ireland’s Ryanair, which is continuing to add capacity and to open new routes, said Wednesday its passenger numbers had risen 9 per cent year-on-year in May to 5.5m.

BA short-haul passenger numbers in the UK and the rest of Europe fell 7.8 per cent in May to 1.74m, and its total passenger numbers fell 7.3 per cent to 2.76m.

Willie Walsh, BA chief executive, warned the airline’s 41,000 staff last week the group was “in a fight for survival”.

It is in difficult negotiations with its trades unions on measures to cut costs and improve productivity and recently disclosed a record pre-tax loss for the 12 months to the end of March of £401m.

BA said its non-premium traffic had fallen last month 4.2 per cent.

The airline is cutting its flying programme to try to reduce the number of unfilled seats and said its capacity, measured by available seat kilometres, was 5.3 per cent lower in May than a year ago. Its overall traffic, measured by revenue passenger kilometres, fell faster by 6.5 per cent.

Overall it is cutting capacity by 2.5 per cent during the summer months, but the main reductions are before and after the peak summer holiday weeks. It is planning a deeper cut in capacity by 4 per cent in the next winter season, with the grounding of 16 aircraft following a cut in capacity of 3.1 per cent last winter.
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British Airways announces special offer for students

Mumbai: British Airways announced a special offer for the student community, traveling overseas for higher studies, under which a student can carry an additional 23-kg baggage without any extra charge.

The extra baggage allowance offer for outbound travelers (students) is valid for six months, starting from June 1, whereas for the inbound travelers it is permitted within the validity of the ticket, a company release said here.

"It is the beginning of a new academic year and we want to do all that we can for our young customers. We have launched this offer to provide them with an opportunity to plan a trip that suits their budget and allows them to carry all that they want to do," British Airways Regional commercial manager (South Asia), Judy Jarvis said.
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BA special livery B757-236(ER) at Schiphol - Amsterdam.

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BA special livery B757-236(ER) at Schiphol - Amsterdam.

this doesnt really count as special livery as this is an actual subsidiary airline of BA which is called "open skies"
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Really. Thank you for the info.
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I took British Airways last year and I have to say that they had nothing extraordinary. I had heard they were better than other airlines, but having taken them, I don't see any difference (besides Terminal 5). I prolly wont take BA again, Virgin Atlantic offers a much better option for me.
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British Airways signs new ATM advertising deal with idesign for atmAd

NEWPORT-ON-TAY, Scotland — British Airways has renewed its media holding on atmAd, i-design's self-service advertising solution.

"British Airways is our longest running advertiser and was our 'launch' client back in 2004, when atmAd rolled out on Nationwide Building Society ATMs," says Ana Stewart, i-design's chief executive. "Their renewal, which will see BA's campaigns run simultaneously across three banking networks, demonstrates the long-term value of this unique media proposition."

According to a news release, British Airways' long-term ATM strategy, which was initiated with a six-month agreement in 2005, is designed to target business and leisure travelers for the next 12 months with seasonal offers, flight sales and information on online check-in and new routes.

British Airways will run two dynamic ads a month, targeting business travelers via key ATM sites located in London with proximity to business and mainline transport hubs. Additionally, key sites on high streets will target leisure travelers. The British Airways long-term holding has grown in 2009 to include more sites.

"AtmAd delivers the perfect opportunity to promote strategic messages to targeted audiences in key locations," said Anna West of British Airways.
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Virgin Atlantic are Britain's flag carrier, not British Airways!!

British Airways only fly international from London. They have nothing from Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham or any other British city. British Airways is London Airways.

At least Virgin Atlantic also fly international from Glasgow and Manchester as well as there London flights.
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I like BA alot. It's a very convenient flight with good seats and service. Post more pix of BA please
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British Airways is in a fight for survival
According to Willie Walsh, the chief executive of British Airways, in a recent statement published in the BA newspaper, the carrier is facing a “fight for survival.” He added: “It’s critical that we all recognise that the diagnosis for our airline is now critical.”

Walsh stressed that the crisis the aviation airline was facing “has never been more serious.”

He went on to say: “There has been a significant shift in consumer attitude, with people wanting more and paying less. And things are getting worse. We haven’t yet reached the bottom and everything points towards a protracted downturn.”

Some areas of BA’s business are seeing progress, such as negotiations regarding pay and productivity, but in other areas change “has been slow”, he noted. Walsh indicated that he has set a deadline of 30 June for completing talks with unions.

In April, British Airways reported a record loss, cancelling its dividend to shareholders and said that difficult trading conditions made it impossible to provide guidance for the current period.

In the last year, the airline’s shares have lost 28 per cent of their value. Monday’s closing price was 155.5 pence, which valued the business at 1.79 billion pounds.
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Really. Thank you for the info.
pleasure...open skies flies from paris-orly and Amsterdam to JFK using all business class
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I've flown only once with British Airways and I liked it. It may not be the best airline in the world, but it gets you safe from A to B with a more than average inflight service. BA is a classic.
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BA A320





BA B767-300



I Think BA should try the A330-300 to replace their B767.
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