MISC | World's (biggest) tram cities - Page 5

city_thing · August 10th, 2008, 02:56 PM

I'm quite impressed by Oslo's network, they also have a great metro. What are the Oslo trams like?

Looks like we've found a purist in Justme

Which is great, because this thread obviously needs someone to cut through all the bullshit that people talk in here in a desperate attempt to have their city named "the best".

Justme · August 10th, 2008, 07:33 PM

Just trying to make sure everyone uses the same standard, otherwise this thread is a waste of time

AmiDelf · August 10th, 2008, 10:53 PM

Here is some pics:

Oslo tram

Oslo Metro which is Light Rail to

Tram

Oslo with temporary road

Oslo tram system is big but very slow. Its got problem with cars driving with the trams on streets. Oslo should have built an underground tram system like in Bochum or Essen in Germany which got equal population.

Metro is faster, but old tracks and bad lightning/signal system makes the system a bit to unstable. Other than this, I like it very much

flierfy · August 12th, 2008, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justme

Actually, it is not irrelevant. One should always in this case compare the most logical definition. If Track length has less advantages than route length, then obviously it is illogical to use this method and what method we use is thus relevant.

There is no such thing as the most logical. All parameters say something about the extensiveness of a network.

Anyway, we depend on the publicity policy of the tram operators. Some of them publish every little detail about their networks, others don't. So in some cases we have to use rather odd numbers to classify the network.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justme

I have not heard of this third method you mentioned, but am interested. By sum of each line, what exactly do you mean?

Exactly, one add the length of each line to get a sum to compare. It's just another parameter of a tram network.

Justme · August 13th, 2008, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flierfy

There is no such thing as the most logical. All parameters say something about the extensiveness of a network.

Anyway, we depend on the publicity policy of the tram operators. Some of them publish every little detail about their networks, others don't. So in some cases we have to use rather odd numbers to classify the network.

Of cause, logic is in the mind of the beholder, but it stands to reason that for general public usage, route length is of far greater importance. As I described earlier, the number of lanes on a road means nothing to the distance between two points which is what "length" is all about. A person who is 10km from work doesn't think that since their road was widened to 6 lanes they are now 60km from work.

So yes, it is more logical to use route length for general public consumption.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flierfy

Exactly, one add the length of each line to get a sum to compare. It's just another parameter of a tram network.

This then is the 2nd definition which is route length. It's nothing new from what you describe.

***GENIUS LOCI*** · November 15th, 2008, 02:27 AM

Didn't know where to post that

Helem · November 26th, 2008, 05:17 PM

Tram UKVZ Moscow

Helem · November 26th, 2008, 05:22 PM

Tram LM-2005 St. Petersburg

***GENIUS LOCI*** · November 26th, 2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Helem

Tram UKVZ Moscow http://www.ukvz.ru/

Reminds me Riptide's bot

Helem · November 27th, 2008, 01:37 PM

St. Petersburg

Thermo · November 27th, 2008, 07:32 PM

I think the Brussels trams are the best looking

image hosted on flickr

Old colors:
image hosted on flickr

caserass · November 27th, 2008, 08:40 PM

the trams of Bordeaux and Marseille aren't bad too . Unfortunately I don't have any pics.

X38 · November 29th, 2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GENIUS LOCI

Didn't know where to post that

I like it! However I don't understand any god damn word of it

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Too bad, but I don't like the Green interior of the new articulated trams

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serdar samanlı · November 30th, 2008, 11:29 AM

Istanbul used to be a tram city with 56 lines

***GENIUS LOCI*** · December 1st, 2008, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X38

However I don't understand any god damn word of it

It is even better, just 'cause it's a bit retorical

ImBoredNow · December 1st, 2008, 09:03 PM

THe trams in Moscow are driving in the middle of a two lane highway!
They've got to put some kind of barrier I hope.

***GENIUS LOCI*** · December 2nd, 2008, 01:26 AM

It is not a highway, but a major urban road (with crossroads and traffic lights)

Anyway I agree that tramways have to be separated from car traffic the best you can: so to have barriers is better than simple marks

DJZG · December 2nd, 2008, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkie

What about Moscow tram network? I heard some number of 400+ km...

does anyone have that 400km tram map? all i hear is numbers and i've never seen that network and how big it is...

Helem · December 2nd, 2008, 11:46 AM

The length of tram network in Moscow 416 km.

Der Meister · December 2nd, 2008, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJZG

does anyone have that 400km tram map? all i hear is numbers and i've never seen that network and how big it is...

As you wish.

August 10th, 2008, 07:33 PM	#82
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August 10th, 2008, 10:53 PM	#83
AmiDelf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 371 Likes (Received): 0	Oslo tram Here is some pics: Oslo tram Oslo Metro which is Light Rail to Tram Oslo with temporary road Oslo tram system is big but very slow. Its got problem with cars driving with the trams on streets. Oslo should have built an underground tram system like in Bochum or Essen in Germany which got equal population. Metro is faster, but old tracks and bad lightning/signal system makes the system a bit to unstable. Other than this, I like it very much

November 15th, 2008, 02:27 AM	#86
*GENIUS LOCI* Italian Mod Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milano Posts: 26,412 Likes (Received): 225	Didn't know where to post that __________________ www.urbanfile.org Poland National Stadium - Kiev Olympic Stadium - The Shard - NYC 2 WTC - The Shanghai Tower - Milan Garibaldi Tower - Milan Expo 2015 E=mc²?

November 26th, 2008, 05:17 PM	#87
Helem Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,797 Likes (Received): 155	Tram UKVZ Moscow Last edited by Helem; November 27th, 2008 at 03:15 PM.

November 27th, 2008, 07:32 PM	#91
Thermo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Antwerp Posts: 3,241 Likes (Received): 129	I think the Brussels trams are the best looking image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr Old colors: image hosted on flickr

August 10th, 2008, 02:56 PM	#81
city_thing I gots purdy hair Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne. Posts: 6,974 Likes (Received): 177	I'm quite impressed by Oslo's network, they also have a great metro. What are the Oslo trams like? Looks like we've found a purist in Justme Which is great, because this thread obviously needs someone to cut through all the bullshit that people talk in here in a desperate attempt to have their city named "the best".

November 26th, 2008, 05:22 PM	#88
Helem Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,797 Likes (Received): 155	Tram LM-2005 St. Petersburg

November 27th, 2008, 01:37 PM	#90
Helem Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,797 Likes (Received): 155	St. Petersburg

November 27th, 2008, 08:40 PM	#92
caserass Normandie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,406 Likes (Received): 535	the trams of Bordeaux and Marseille aren't bad too . Unfortunately I don't have any pics.

November 30th, 2008, 11:29 AM	#94
serdar samanlı Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 775 Likes (Received): 0	Istanbul used to be a tram city with 56 lines

December 1st, 2008, 09:03 PM	#96
ImBoredNow I have no life : ( Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Frederick, Rockville, Vellore, Tokyo, Chennai, Hyderabad Posts: 1,332 Likes (Received): 29	THe trams in Moscow are driving in the middle of a two lane highway! They've got to put some kind of barrier I hope.

December 2nd, 2008, 01:26 AM	#97
*GENIUS LOCI* Italian Mod Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milano Posts: 26,412 Likes (Received): 225	It is not a highway, but a major urban road (with crossroads and traffic lights) Anyway I agree that tramways have to be separated from car traffic the best you can: so to have barriers is better than simple marks __________________ www.urbanfile.org Poland National Stadium - Kiev Olympic Stadium - The Shard - NYC 2 WTC - The Shanghai Tower - Milan Garibaldi Tower - Milan Expo 2015 E=mc²?

December 2nd, 2008, 11:46 AM	#99
Helem Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,797 Likes (Received): 155	The length of tram network in Moscow 416 km.

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