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Old August 10th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #81
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I'm quite impressed by Oslo's network, they also have a great metro. What are the Oslo trams like?

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Which is great, because this thread obviously needs someone to cut through all the bullshit that people talk in here in a desperate attempt to have their city named "the best".
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Old August 10th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #82
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Just trying to make sure everyone uses the same standard, otherwise this thread is a waste of time
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Old August 10th, 2008, 11:53 PM   #83
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Oslo tram

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Oslo Metro which is Light Rail to


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Oslo with temporary road

Oslo tram system is big but very slow. Its got problem with cars driving with the trams on streets. Oslo should have built an underground tram system like in Bochum or Essen in Germany which got equal population.

Metro is faster, but old tracks and bad lightning/signal system makes the system a bit to unstable. Other than this, I like it very much
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Old August 12th, 2008, 08:22 PM   #84
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Actually, it is not irrelevant. One should always in this case compare the most logical definition. If Track length has less advantages than route length, then obviously it is illogical to use this method and what method we use is thus relevant.
There is no such thing as the most logical. All parameters say something about the extensiveness of a network.

Anyway, we depend on the publicity policy of the tram operators. Some of them publish every little detail about their networks, others don't. So in some cases we have to use rather odd numbers to classify the network.


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I have not heard of this third method you mentioned, but am interested. By sum of each line, what exactly do you mean?
Exactly, one add the length of each line to get a sum to compare. It's just another parameter of a tram network.
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Old August 13th, 2008, 10:05 AM   #85
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There is no such thing as the most logical. All parameters say something about the extensiveness of a network.

Anyway, we depend on the publicity policy of the tram operators. Some of them publish every little detail about their networks, others don't. So in some cases we have to use rather odd numbers to classify the network.
Of cause, logic is in the mind of the beholder, but it stands to reason that for general public usage, route length is of far greater importance. As I described earlier, the number of lanes on a road means nothing to the distance between two points which is what "length" is all about. A person who is 10km from work doesn't think that since their road was widened to 6 lanes they are now 60km from work.

So yes, it is more logical to use route length for general public consumption.


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Exactly, one add the length of each line to get a sum to compare. It's just another parameter of a tram network.
This then is the 2nd definition which is route length. It's nothing new from what you describe.
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Old November 15th, 2008, 03:27 AM   #86
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Old November 26th, 2008, 06:17 PM   #87
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Tram UKVZ Moscow




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Old November 26th, 2008, 06:22 PM   #88
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Old November 26th, 2008, 06:45 PM   #89
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Tram UKVZ Moscow http://www.ukvz.ru/



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Old November 27th, 2008, 02:37 PM   #90
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Old November 27th, 2008, 08:32 PM   #91
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I think the Brussels trams are the best looking

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Old November 27th, 2008, 09:40 PM   #92
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the trams of Bordeaux and Marseille aren't bad too . Unfortunately I don't have any pics.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 09:34 PM   #93
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I like it! However I don't understand any god damn word of it .

Too bad, but I don't like the Green interior of the new articulated trams .
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Old November 30th, 2008, 12:29 PM   #94
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Istanbul used to be a tram city with 56 lines
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Old December 1st, 2008, 02:01 PM   #95
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However I don't understand any god damn word of it
It is even better, just 'cause it's a bit retorical
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Old December 1st, 2008, 10:03 PM   #96
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THe trams in Moscow are driving in the middle of a two lane highway!
They've got to put some kind of barrier I hope.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 02:26 AM   #97
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It is not a highway, but a major urban road (with crossroads and traffic lights)

Anyway I agree that tramways have to be separated from car traffic the best you can: so to have barriers is better than simple marks
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 12:11 PM   #98
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What about Moscow tram network? I heard some number of 400+ km...
does anyone have that 400km tram map? all i hear is numbers and i've never seen that network and how big it is...
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 12:46 PM   #99
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The length of tram network in Moscow 416 km.

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Old December 2nd, 2008, 10:07 PM   #100
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does anyone have that 400km tram map? all i hear is numbers and i've never seen that network and how big it is...
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