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Old July 24th, 2009, 11:05 PM   #101
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These are great news! What about polish part? Is it under construction?
You should ask it at Forum Polskich Wieżowców

If they talk about 2014 so I think it will be prepared until Olympic Games will start... So, fans would be able to get at 2014 IIHF World Championship in Belarus.
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Old July 26th, 2009, 06:41 PM   #102
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Exactly here, this is a part about trains and railways. However I don't think there is some special thread for the investment you mentioned above... you should ask there.
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Old July 26th, 2009, 08:16 PM   #103
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Hello!
I've got one question for you pals because I've never been to Belarus although our countries are neighbours. I've seen thread about Minsk and saw really clean city there. It's the same with rural areas close to the border with Poland. How do you do this ? Is there any governmental program to prevent throwing garbage on the ground ? Does the government employ additonal cleaners ? Or maybe people have the way of thinking in their minds, to keep cities clean ? I'm asking because in Poland people have no respect for cleanness and they are throwing everything everywhere. The situation is getting better but there is still much work to do.
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Old July 26th, 2009, 11:32 PM   #104
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OK. You know, we had a flood some days ago in Minsk, maybe that's the answer?

I know, that approx. at 5-6am cleaners go outdoors and clean the streets, so morning-tourists can think our citizens don't throw garbage in the streets. In my city (Słucak) the problem was solved by installing trash cans everywhere. I think so. As for me, I learned myself to throw the rubbish to its place.
There's no any special "way of thinking", 'cause nobody has learned people what is that damned garbage sorting. Those popular recycle bins for glass, plastics, metals, etc... Yes, they exist. But nobody sorts the rubbish before they utilize it. So in a bin for glass you can find plastic bottles of Cola, beer, put out cigarettes... Sometimes you can find even crap of cats/dogs/etc.

The effect of cleanliness is achieved with crowds of cleaners employed as they will remain unemployed (all good places are already occupied, "not good" places are unwanted, IT-field is growing now, but you have to learn a lot before you'll be employed by a certain company).

So, I think the answer on your question is "the government employs additonal cleaners"...
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upd. Oh, I'm not the one who has the same opinion There's a comment for an article at charter97.org (http://www.charter97.org/be/news/2009/7/7/19847)

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Никакие грандиозные новостройки Минску не нужны при этой власти, которая и так уже испоганила и засрала многие пятаки в центре ужасными проектами 80-х годов. В рамках 1-ого и 2-ого кольца вообще необходимо строить только архитектурные шедевры, приглашая наиболее талантливых зодчих со всего мира. Совершенно не понимаю тех, кто восхищается Минском. Наверное потому, что кроме него н6ихера не видел. Кроме Красного костела не на что посмотреть. Колхозный город, а чисто здесь, не потому что люди уж такие культурные (хотя, надо отдать и им должное), а потому, что армия дворников трудится с 4-х - 5-ти утра, вот и весь секрет.
Хватит того, что испоганили площадь Независимости, постороив убогий ТЦ Столица", пабсолютно несовременный. Хотя бы в Европу кого командировали.
Колхозное быдло у власти и мышление на том же уровне, а люди - рабы, которые бояться раскрыть пасть, в то время, когда в тролейбусе готовы выплеснуть на тебя все свои комплексы и недовольство жизнью. Быдло, что возьмешь.
This government doesn't need those new buildings, because it has already f**ked the center up with ugly 80's projects. We must build masterpieces only in the middle of the 1st and the 2nd ring road involving the best architects from over the world. I can't realize why they all admire Minsk. Perhaps, they saw nothing before. There's nothing to see except Red Catholic Church. Crappy city, and it's clean here not 'cause of civilized citizens (though we should pay a tribute to them), but 'cause of crowds of cleaners working from 4-5am, that's the secret.
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I hope you'll found out why we have such clean streets with the help of a middle-class citizen's point of view.

PS: yep, the translation sucks... But that's the only way to give the answer.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 04:09 PM   #105
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Do you think Belarus can become rich by 2020, similar to Czech Republic today?
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Old September 9th, 2009, 09:55 AM   #106
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Do you think Belarus can become rich by 2020, similar to Czech Republic today?
Well, what do you mean ‘similar to Czech Republic today’ -
either the economic circumstances or political organizations?
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Old September 9th, 2009, 02:49 PM   #107
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Well, what do you mean ‘similar to Czech Republic today’ -
either the economic circumstances or political organizations?
I am referring mostly to the economic circumstances. Do you think it will be possible by 2020 to be as economically developed as Czech Republic is today or do you think this is impossible?
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Old September 10th, 2009, 02:52 AM   #108
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Do you think Belarus can become rich by 2020, similar to Czech Republic today?
I think that it's possible, though not very probable. In any case, let's hope so.
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Old September 10th, 2009, 08:29 AM   #109
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I am referring mostly to the economic circumstances. Do you think it will be possible by 2020 to be as economically developed as Czech Republic is today or do you think this is impossible?
Well, If we keep going the way we're going I mean this way:
All is possible…
http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTE...K:4607,00.html

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Old September 10th, 2009, 07:07 PM   #110
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Do you think it will be possible by 2020 to be as economically developed as Czech Republic is today or do you think this is impossible?
Not with current economic model IMHO: mostly administrative command system, aggravated by export-orientation. It's very hard to keep up with the competitors on the world-marked if you are bound by administrative directives, like fixed price, industrial output plan, etc. Recently it leads to the situation when companies are working mostly for stock.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 06:47 PM   #111
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I have a question, ja. How many Belarusians does it take to change a light bulb?
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I think you are waiting the reply 11. 1 is holding the bulb, the others are drinking beer untill the room starts rotating.... true?
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I have a question, ja. How many Belarusians does it take to change a light bulb?
None, Belarussians will sit in the darkness and think it was meant to be in that way.
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Old September 18th, 2009, 07:40 PM   #114
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None, Belarussians will sit in the darkness and think it was meant to be in that way.
Haha, nice shot, dude!
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Old September 18th, 2009, 09:18 PM   #115
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Как в анекдоте прямо - "а мо так і трэба?"
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 02:23 PM   #116
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Language and Visas

I am from New Zealand and I hope to travel to Belarus in the near future and travel around the former Soviet Republics. I have two questions to ask.

What are the differences in the cyrillic writing that Belarus has when compared to other countries that have cyrillic as their writing?

Do I need a Visa? If so what is the right way to getting a Visa to go to Belarus?

Thanks
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 02:26 PM   #117
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Do you think Belarus can become rich by 2020, similar to Czech Republic today?
Well most of the EU 10 States of 2004 have overtaken New Zealand in per capita terms and sometimes in Nominal GDP (New Zealand is my Country just in case you don't know). So yes the EU10 seem to be doing very very well.
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What are the differences in the cyrillic writing that Belarus has when compared to other countries that have cyrillic as their writing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarusian_alphabet
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Do I need a Visa? If so what is the right way to getting a Visa to go to Belarus?
Yes, you need visa. See more details here:
http://www.russia-ukraine-travel.com/belarus-visa.html
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 02:58 PM   #119
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Thanks that is good information there I will have a read over it.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:51 PM   #120
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"Russia Ukraine travel"... Belarus is considered to be Russia, or Ukraine?
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