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Old February 12th, 2009, 01:01 AM   #81
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Huge blue hoardings are now surrounding the fountains at the base of the tower, and the block of shops immediately to the south as well. Workmen are busy on the western side of the street too, preparing for demolition.
Crossrail is comming
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Old February 13th, 2009, 06:05 PM   #82
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Come on surely hoardings around the fountains is enough for one of you fine chaps to grab some photos!?
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Old February 14th, 2009, 11:45 AM   #83
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Both the Centrepoint Tower and the fountains in front of it are Grade II listed. However, if the fountains are to be removed for this new Crossrail station, they should have de-listed it. If any listed building in the UK is to be demolished for something better, it should be de-listed. If the Baltic Exchange building is a listed building and it has been bombed and dismantled, they should have thought about de-listing the old structure. Have there been any deceased buildings in the UK which are still listed today?
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Old February 14th, 2009, 05:27 PM   #84
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^ My understanding is that de-listing only occurs if it can be proved that the original listing was granted incorrectly and the building doesn't actually posses any special/historical interest etc.

Any alterations or demolition proposed for a listed building requires listed building consent from the council - as long as the justification for removing the building can be proved, and it's deemed acceptable, consent will be granted and the building can be altered/demolished.

If the fountains are considered to be part of Centrepoint (on not a separate listing) then it will only be a partial demolition anyway.
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Old February 16th, 2009, 09:31 PM   #85
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these are welcome improvements to the area around centrepoint, an area which I and thousands of others travel through everyday. However, this does not detract from the point that the area is hideously ugly and is somehwat embarassing considering the future transport hub status it will have when Crossrail arrives. In an ideal world all the clutter around centre point (i.e. bus station) would be demolished leaving only the tower, the astoria would remain, and more buildings like the one next to the theatre would be brought up
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Old February 16th, 2009, 11:23 PM   #86
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Crossrail is coming and the whole area is being redeveloped.

May I suggest that TCR station is renamed Centre Point (one word or two?) at the culmination of the programme. Not just because of the tower, but... well, the Colonel didn't pick the name on a whim. With two tubes lines, one (maybe two) Crossrails, buses, and the convergence of Soho, Covent Garden, Bloomsbury and Fitzrovia, this IS London's centre point.

It's the second beer that does it...
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Old February 17th, 2009, 04:25 PM   #87
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I'd prefer they renamed it St Giles's Circus, which is after all the name of the intersection between Oxford St, Tottenham Court Rd and Charing Cross Rd. I agree that Centre Point is an aptly named building, but presumably it won't be there forever.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 09:09 PM   #88
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St. Giles' Circus would get my vote and put Goodge Street back to Tottenham Court Road.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 09:45 PM   #89
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I'd prefer they renamed it St Giles's Circus, which is after all the name of the intersection between Oxford St, Tottenham Court Rd and Charing Cross Rd. I agree that Centre Point is an aptly named building, but presumably it won't be there forever.
Don't be so sure, it is Grade 2 listed, so it's unlikely to be going anywhere soon..........unless it gets bombed in World War 3 of course.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 11:33 PM   #90
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A quick video from today -

http://www.willfox.com/videos/skyscr...oint170209.wmv

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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:18 AM   #91
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 04:52 PM   #92
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Before the "improvements" arrive, some pics in memory of what is about to go first..



I think the buildings have a lot of character and no one knows of how the new buildings above the station will look like.. R.I.P:




Nearly all buildings are boarded up with posters about the development:



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Old February 22nd, 2009, 04:58 PM   #93
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So long, Astoria!!

In particular, I will miss the "Astoria"... For all those, who enjoyed some fab nights there, here are some last impressions...

Everything on the right will go..(pics from the back of the Astoria)
















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Old February 22nd, 2009, 07:09 PM   #94
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brilliant photos there Lord Nelson - excellent collection to record the passing of lots of history. I've said it before, and sad as it is that the Astoria and the older buildings are going - this is for the greater good or a well needed spanking brand new transportation hub for the 21st century. The shops are shut and the hoardings are up, this is going to be one huge point of focus for nigh on 7 years.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 09:15 PM   #95
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Shit is the Metro club on Oxford Street going too!?? It's a dirty, grotty little place, but I have lots of memories of that place, I got drunk there every Tuesday night on £1 vodka cokes, and listened to Metal for a year in my first year of University in 2001/02, good days . . .
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 09:22 PM   #96
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Yep, the "metro" is going, too. It is on the back of the round curved house which has the greek restaurant (Dionysus) at the front.

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Old February 22nd, 2009, 10:44 PM   #97
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Dionysus... or Barclays Bank, as it once evidently was, and was presumably as built.

I love all the framing on the building to the left (and featured in one of Lord Nelson's photos), I assume it once carried some screaming illuminated signs for Pepsodent or Craven 'A's - it would be great to see an old photo.

But these buildings weren't built to last forever, indeed, their builders/developers doubtless tore down something far more interesting to build the bank!

Onwards and upwards - bring on the scaffolding.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 10:48 PM   #98
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i loved the Astoria.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 11:53 PM   #99
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Fucking good riddance to it.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 12:34 AM   #100
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They should atleast have kept the facades.
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