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View Poll Results: What has been the Olympic opening ceremony's most beautiful story
Barcelona 1992 20 16.67%
Sydney 2000 20 16.67%
Athens 2004 43 35.83%
Beijing 2008 37 30.83%
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Old October 16th, 2005, 07:08 PM   #161
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There are two kinds of people: those who have watched Olympics and everyone else who wishes to watch it.

I am the former one. In 2000.
Australia has shown the true spirit of Olympics. Good spectators(the Oz). Well-organised. Not particularly commercial but still managed to more than break-even.
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Old October 16th, 2005, 07:17 PM   #162
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Nothing compares with the MArathon in its authentic, original route! AthEnS!
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Old October 16th, 2005, 07:54 PM   #163
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Nothing compares with the MArathon in its authentic, original route! AthEnS!
But the Athen Marathon became not that perfect when a Scot rushed out from the spectators to push down the leading Brazilian runner 6km before the finish.
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Old October 16th, 2005, 08:03 PM   #164
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Athens deserves a special mention as it was the first time an Olympics was held in a third world country.
WHAT? THIRD WORLD COUNTRY?!!! I think you arent well.
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Old October 16th, 2005, 08:08 PM   #165
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WHAT? THIRD WORLD COUNTRY?!!! I think you arent well.
Don't be discriminating! though I dont vote Athens.
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Old October 16th, 2005, 08:24 PM   #166
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I don't know about the "best", but Athens 2004 was desperately needed after the Americans nearly destroyed the modern Olympics with their rampant commercialism and the Soviets with the professionalism of their athletes. Athens breathed new life into an Olympic spirit gone sour.

"Dream Teams" composed of idiotic, spoiled, professional US basketball players hotdogging, putting on slam-dunking clinics and beating amateur teams by 50 points. Soviet "professional" hockey teams beating college players without effort. East German women swimmers who shaved their chests prior to enterring the pools. That stuff was finally put to bed in Athens. Drug tests that were actually MEANINGFUL and seriously conducted, weeding out the hypodermic cheats.

The Olympics desperately needed a return to ground in Athens. Those that deprecate the Greek games strictly on the basis of some misguided, colloquial nationalism are doing a great disservice to the Olympic spirit.

What was the "best" Olympic Games? That depends on your cultural background, naturally. Germans like the Berlin and Munich games. Americans favor Los Angeles and Atlanta and Russians prefer the Moscow Games. But nobody should question the impact on the Olympic spirit by bringing the games back to Greece. It was desperately needed. The Games will last another century on the recharge they obtained in Athens. No question in my mind.
Atlanta was a terrible Games. The Games were reborn at the Sydney Olympics. And Athens continued the good work once the torch (literally!) was passed to them.
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Old October 16th, 2005, 08:33 PM   #167
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U got excited from Atlanta, the worst games in history????That says a lot why u think Sydney the best and Athens the worst.
I was an innocent child of 10 lol. I didn't take any notice of commercial aspects that were a part of the games. I was just captivated by all the different events and the competition between athletes from around the world. I watched it on the BBC who don't show adverts and in any case i wouldn't have took any notice of negative issues, especially being quite young. It's just the first time i remember being very interested in the olympics and athletics as a spectator.
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Old October 16th, 2005, 08:38 PM   #168
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my choice

Barcelona 1992, no doubt about it. The best olympics ever. Barcelona set a break-point in Olympics, with a before and an after clearly delimited.
In second place, Athens 2004.
In third place, Sidney 2000.

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Old October 16th, 2005, 08:40 PM   #169
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I don't know about the "best", but Athens 2004 was desperately needed after the Americans nearly destroyed the modern Olympics with their rampant commercialism and the Soviets with the professionalism of their athletes. Athens breathed new life into an Olympic spirit gone sour.

"Dream Teams" composed of idiotic, spoiled, professional US basketball players hotdogging, putting on slam-dunking clinics and beating amateur teams by 50 points. Soviet "professional" hockey teams beating college players without effort. East German women swimmers who shaved their chests prior to enterring the pools. That stuff was finally put to bed in Athens. Drug tests that were actually MEANINGFUL and seriously conducted, weeding out the hypodermic cheats.

The Olympics desperately needed a return to ground in Athens. Those that deprecate the Greek games strictly on the basis of some misguided, colloquial nationalism are doing a great disservice to the Olympic spirit.

What was the "best" Olympic Games? That depends on your cultural background, naturally. Germans like the Berlin and Munich games. Americans favor Los Angeles and Atlanta and Russians prefer the Moscow Games. But nobody should question the impact on the Olympic spirit by bringing the games back to Greece. It was desperately needed. The Games will last another century on the recharge they obtained in Athens. No question in my mind.
Well, all the athletes now participating in the Olympics are full-time athletes(whether they are sponsored or not). They are the best athletes in their events in the world. If we insist to be amateur. The level of Olympics will surely go down. And only the World Championships of particular event will represent the highest level. The result? No one will watch Olympics. Becuase they are lower level than World Championships where the athletes are full-time, representing the highest level. It's clear. If no/not enough spectators, how can Olympics exixt?

For me, I would rather watch IAAF Grand Prix Athletic Meet or World Championships rahter than Olympics track & field. Because the level is TOO LOW to be attractive if go amateur
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Old October 16th, 2005, 08:50 PM   #170
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Barcelona 1992, no doubt about it. The best olympics ever. Barcelona set a break-point in Olympics, with a before and an after clearly delimited.
In second place, Athens 2004.
In third place, Sidney 2000.

Greetings!
I agree Barcelona 1992 was very good, especially the official & background music which was composed by the renowned modern composer SAKAMOTO.

But for overall best, I will choose Sydney 2000 which I really participated. Barcelona's surely the second.
The third? No idea. Maybe Berlin 1936 lead by Hitler?
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Old October 17th, 2005, 03:16 AM   #171
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But the Athen Marathon became not that perfect when a Scot rushed out from the spectators to push down the leading Brazilian runner 6km before the finish.
Actually, it was a drunk Irish ex-priest. The ironic thing was, after all the bellyaching the British did about security and their insistence the Greeks spend more and more money on it, guess where the only "incident" originated from? An ex Irish priest who came to Athens through-you guessed it-London Heathrow Airport.

If the British think they can cheap out on security for the 2012 games, they have another think coming. Greece should insist London spend at least as much as Athens spent in 2004-and probably more. They have a terrible record on terrorism in London.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 04:36 AM   #172
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Actually, it was a drunk Irish ex-priest. The ironic thing was, after all the bellyaching the British did about security and their insistence the Greeks spend more and more money on it, guess where the only "incident" originated from? An ex Irish priest who came to Athens through-you guessed it-London Heathrow Airport.

If the British think they can cheap out on security for the 2012 games, they have another think coming. Greece should insist London spend at least as much as Athens spent in 2004-and probably more. They have a terrible record on terrorism in London.
Yes, British should pay more attention to security coz of their records.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 10:07 AM   #173
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Athens Olympics were diffrent from others. They were the Authentic Olympic games. the Games were all was reset. Atlanta was forgotten, Sydney had passed, and the games returned to there roots for the first time in over 100 years. in WHICH country can Athletes run the original Marathon Track?? in WHICh country can they compete in the Ancient olympic Stadium in Olympia, something that everyone posting on this thread should honour if they are true olympic followwers and not just some patriotic trolls with grudges against other nations.
how many times has a stadium been turned into an artificial sea for a multi million dollar opening ceremony? How many times has a 1000 tone cycladic head risen from the bows of a stadium? how many times have you seen an amzing laser show appear in full 3D and motion in the centre of a stadium? How many times have you seen the Olympic Flame burn brightly over its spiritual home? This is totally unmatched.
Sydney was great dont get me wrong. but who in the ******* world can beat all of that i have just mentioned?? and i respect people opinions, but wtf?? Sydney was the true spirit of the games with its crowds?? do you think the aim of the Olympics is to make the most revenue and have a good atmosphere? NO. its about personal excellence and mankind you fool. Visit Olympia an pick up a history book before you make false statements as such.
the spirit of the olympics is totally unmatched in Athens....
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Old October 17th, 2005, 11:27 AM   #174
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At least, the Olympics has to be able to break-even or make little profit. Right?
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Old October 17th, 2005, 02:00 PM   #175
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No. It isnt about Money. sure for the countries that host it for the money. But Greece host it for the Journey and for the history and spirit. it isnt about money. 13 billion dollars were spent in Athens, and who is complaining? Its for the love of the games and the respect of the origin.
I dont give a **** if not one ticket was sold. the games returned home in a beautiful way, no one can argue that.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 02:49 PM   #176
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Yes, Olympics is not for money. But it has to be backup by money. Olympics cannot exist if no one buy a ticket.

I know very well of sports coz I am an amateur athlete(Marathon) before. But I also has to be pragmatic enough. I don't mind Olympics to have a few commercial elements coz I want more people to watch it, feel it.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 04:08 PM   #177
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The Anglo-Saxons (US included) have killed the modern Olympic Spirit and have mutated the Games in a commercial travesty. The IOC is not to be blamed less about this corruption. So, for me, it is not strange to have all these opinions about "Break-even" , "No. of spectators, revenue and debts" , "Third World Countries" etc. etc.
This is why in these forums all Aussies, Tommies, Yanks and their lackeys say "Sidney best! Sidney best!".
As some others have already pointed out, it is not about the money!
I wish there was a reaction to this farse they call "Olympic Games"!
We could start by thinking that they would no longer have to be called "Olympic" , there is nothing "Olympic" in them any more! They'd better be called "Universal Games" or something similar but definately not "Olympic".
Even their return to Athens in 2004, despite all the efforts done by the Greeks, could not revive the true Olympic spirit as it was envisioned by De Coubertin and Vikellas.
Just think how many Anglo-Saxonic Cities have hosted the Games in the last 20 years and you will start to realise why the Olympic movement is so much degraded. Guys, your societies and your cultures may be all about money, but the Games simply have nothing to do with it. That's why you 're ruining them by trying to lower their spirit down to your modest commercial standards.
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The Anglo-Saxons (US included) have killed the modern Olympic Spirit and have mutated the Games in a commercial travesty. The IOC is not to be blamed less about this corruption. So, for me, it is not strange to have all these opinions about "Break-even" , "No. of spectators, revenue and debts" , "Third World Countries" etc. etc.
This is why in these forums all Aussies, Tommies, Yanks and their lackeys say "Sidney best! Sidney best!".
As some others have already pointed out, it is not about the money!
I wish there was a reaction to this farse they call "Olympic Games"!
We could start by thinking that they would no longer have to be called "Olympic" , there is nothing "Olympic" in them any more! They'd better be called "Universal Games" or something similar but definately not "Olympic".
Even their return to Athens in 2004, despite all the efforts done by the Greeks, could not revive the true Olympic spirit as it was envisioned by De Coubertin and Vikellas.
Just think how many Anglo-Saxonic Cities have hosted the Games in the last 20 years and you will start to realise why the Olympic movement is so much degraded. Guys, your societies and your cultures may be all about money, but the Games simply have nothing to do with it. That's why you 're ruining them by trying to lower their spirit down to your modest commercial standards.
Chinese & Japanese are not Anglo-Saxons. Right?
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Old October 17th, 2005, 04:43 PM   #179
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Weren┤t Mexico City the firt olympics in a third world country?
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Old October 17th, 2005, 04:48 PM   #180
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The first and the last..
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