Govt plans better public transportation by 2005 - Page 2

lepainperdu · May 7th, 2004, 07:42 PM

sometimes a bus-trip to kl for me from where i live (subang jaya) would be a big test of patience and MOST OF THE TIME i want to bang my head against the tar-ed and polluted roads out of transportation-frustration.

waiting for bus would take FOURTY FIVE MINUTES maybe?? half an hour if i am lucky or if the stars are kind, 15 minutes. then, it takes HALF AN HOUR for the bus to GET OUT OF THIS FILTHY TOWN especially on saturdays. like i could seriously walk farther than the bus itself in the same amount of time except i cannot bear the weather and my lungs do not wish to take in even more karbon monoksida. so it could take two hours, and you know, you could have done a lot of productive things in that time period, like hand-washing your parent's clothes or making snotty little vegetarian meals. but in kl, two hours wasted QUITE EASILY for bus waiting, bus-stopping-too-frequently's, bus-coming-back-to-opposite-road-where-you-waited-to-pick-up-more-people scenarios, and post-bus face washings.

i would complain about the uncomfortable and VERY THIRD-WORLD LOOKING bus interiors and the heatwaves trapped inside these unefficient vehicles but i want to have a peaceful sleep.

ugh public transport

Centrilium · May 8th, 2004, 07:49 AM

I've sat in a typical KL bus before from PUTRA feeder buses to Metrobus and Intrakotas...Come and take a look at Ipoh buses and I'll bet you would consider yourself so much more fortunate.

ZaHiRnYa??? · May 9th, 2004, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lepainperdu

ugh public transport

Buy a motorbike la like that....

lepainperdu · May 9th, 2004, 07:56 AM

then go buy a lot of detox health food to remove all the pollutants in my blood

actually i just malas drive lah :/

ZaHiRnYa??? · May 9th, 2004, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lepainperdu

then go buy a lot of detox health food to remove all the pollutants in my blood

actually i just malas drive lah :/

no wonder la....

I assuming you working in KL then. Which part ?

tomkat · May 10th, 2004, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lepainperdu

i would complain about the uncomfortable and VERY THIRD-WORLD LOOKING bus interiors and the heatwaves trapped inside these unefficient vehicles but i want to have a peaceful sleep.

ugh public transport

It is because the bus is charging a THIRD-WORLD rate to the passengers.

Bus service in most Japanese cities charge close to RM8 per trip. This is 8 times more than what KL city bus is currently charging. The cost of living ratio between Tokyo and KL (if I am not mistaken) is around 4:1. But the bus charge cost ratio between these two cities is 8:1. Logically speaking, it is impossible for KL city bus operator to maintain its buses the same way bus operators in develop countries do.

Then, you will tell me that this high in cost is due to its efficiency.

One of the major reasons why KL bus could not operate efficiently is because KL population scatters around the city in several suburbs. This causes low people density per area (one of the lowest in the region - I don't have it on top of my head right now). The figure is low enough to cause a problem for a bus operator to operate a profitable route to serve these surburbs.

No doubt that the buses would be jam-packed during rush hours. But outside these hours, the buses run almost without passengers. The operators could not afford to increase their capital spending in getting more buses just to satisfy demand in those 3-4 hours/day. It makes no economic sense.

Ijud · June 21st, 2004, 05:05 AM

The Star 21/06/2004

KUALA LUMPUR: The Government has not decided whether to let a private concern or a government-linked company run Klang Valley’s public transport, said Transport Minister Datuk Seri Chan Kong Choy.

There was no final decision on the matter, he said here yesterday.

Last October, the Government named three parties – Nadicorp Holdings Sdn Bhd executive chairman Datuk Mohamad Nadzmi Salleh, Kuala Lumpur Infrastructure Group Bhd (KLIG) and KUB Bhd – to form a consortium to take over all public transport services in the Klang Valley.

Nadzmi and KLIG, which currently operates the Kuala Lumpur monorail system, hold 40% each of the consortium, Ready Network Sdn Bhd, while KUB holds the remaining 20%.

No deadline on the takeover was given, and little had been said about it since its announcement.

Chan said the master plan to integrate Klang Valley’s public transport would be implemented in stages.

These stages will include physically integrating the different systems with walkways and escalators, introducing a common ticket and changing legislation to provide for an urban transport authority, he said.

On the shelving of the RM400mil monorail system in Putrajaya, he said it was part of a move to review spending for infrastructure projects.

baqthier · June 21st, 2004, 09:47 AM

These stages will include physically integrating the different systems with walkways and escalators, introducing a common ticket and changing legislation to provide for an urban transport authority, he said.

Sounds promising! I hope the walkways would be the electrical ones

baqthier · October 25th, 2004, 02:54 PM

2005 is soon! So what has been done?

***szehoong*** · October 25th, 2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by baqthier

2005 is soon! So what has been done?

errrr......now that all Starline stations could use Touch N' Go?

IMHO - That's a milestone!

baqthier · October 26th, 2004, 07:22 AM

wow! ALL? That's great!

Another news

Lembah Klang tak sesak 2020
Oleh Ahmad Fauzi Mustafa

KUALA LUMPUR: Jaringan sistem pengangkutan rel awam di Lembah Klang memerlukan tambahan 79.6 kilometer bagi melengkapi liputan perkhidmatan itu sebanyak 261.6 kilometer, sekali gus mengatasi kesesakan lalu lintas sepenuhnya pada 2020.

Pada masa ini, jumlah seluruh jaringan rel adalah 182 kilometer dengan 96 stesen transit dan lima stesen pelbagai modus membabitkan 48 peratus liputan perkhidmatan pengangkutan awam.

Antara sistem berkenaan ialah Transit Aliran Ringan (LRT) Star dan Projek Usaha Sama Transit Ringan Automatik (Putra).

Menteri Wilayah Persekutuan, Tan Sri Mohd Isa Abdul Samad, berkata sebagai langkah tambahan, jaringan rel baru perlu mencapai 79.6 kilometer dengan 200 stesen transit, selain lima stesen pelbagai modus sedia ada, sekali gus menjangkau 81 peratus liputan perkhidmatan.

Bagi mencapai sasaran itu, kajian mendapati proses elemen guna tanah yang bijak dan menguntungkan adalah pendekatan yang boleh menarik minat lebih lima juta orang menggunakan LRT Star dan Putra bagi membendung kesesakan kronik di sekitar Lembah Klang.

?Langkah itu sebagai sebahagian perancangan sistem rel bagi jalan penyelesaian selaras perancangan bersama Kerajaan Selangor, di samping mengikut Pelan Struktur Kuala Lumpur 2020 dalam rizab koridor yang diperlukan bagi memastikan matlamat nisbah 60:40 penggunaan pengangkutan awam dan persendirian boleh tercapai,? katanya.

Beliau berkata demikian kepada pemberita selepas melancarkan Majlis Perkongsian Pintar Pas Perjalanan Bulanan LRT Star dan Putra di antara Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB) dengan badan korporat terpilih sebagai rakan pintar seperti Kenny Rogers Roasters Chicken, Pusat Boling Cosmic, Taman Tema Dunia Cosmo, Hotel Dorsett Regency dan Petrosains.

Turut hadir Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif SPNB, Ridza Abdoh Saleh; Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Petrosains, Tengku Nasariah Tengku Syed Ibrahim serta wakil rakan pintar.

Katanya, kementerian memerlukan kerjasama mendapatkan sebahagian kawasan daripada jalan atau tanah berhampiran laluan sistem bagi tempat letak kereta dan stesen rel baru.

?Malah ada beberapa kawasan sudah dipersetujui seperti Subang dan Petaling. Kalau tidak cukup, kita kena cari lagi tetapi buat masa ini, Unit Perancangan Ekonomi (EPU), Jabatan Perdana Menteri (JPM) masih mengkaji aspek perundangan.

?Sebagai contoh, elemen guna tanah membabitkan banyak kementerian dan agensi berkaitan dalam pelaksanaan proses menambah rangkaian rel awam di Lembah Klang,? katanya.

Berdasarkan kajian kementerian, penduduk Lembah Klang dijangka meningkat hampir lapan juta menjelang 2020, berbanding 4.5 juta pada 2000. Daripada jumlah itu bilangan isi rumah yang memiliki kereta bertambah sehingga 1.4 juta keluarga.

Ketika itu, jumlah kereta dijangka mencecah 2.4 juta berbanding 1.4 juta pada 2000 dan setiap isi rumah dijangka memiliki dua kereta pada 2020 dengan kereta yang digunakan ke tempat kerja meningkat kepada 2.1 juta pada 2000.

Mohd Isa berkata, jumlah itu amat besar dan sekiranya tidak ditangani dengan baik, kesesakan akan menjadi masalah yang agak kritikal.

?Mengikut Bajet 2005, kadar penggunaan pengangkutan awam menurun daripada 34 peratus pada 1985 kepada 16 peratus pada masa ini, terutama bagi penggunaan bas manakala penggunaan kereta persendirian meningkat ketara daripada 47 peratus kepada 71 peratus,? katanya.

Terdahulu Ridza Abdoh berkata, pelancaran perkongsian pintar pas perjalanan bulanan LRT Star dan Putra menyediakan pelbagai faedah yang ditawarkan kepada pemegang pas yang kini mencapai 50,000 orang.

?Banyak faedah boleh diperoleh seperti diskaun 10 peratus untuk sajian makanan Restoran Kenny Rogers Roasters Chicken atau diskaun 20 peratus di Pusat Boling Cosmic di Mid Valley, selain pemegang pas perjalanan boleh menikmati keistimewaan tambahan iaitu membawa isteri atau suami dan anak seramai empat orang pada hujung minggu atau cuti umum, ? katanya.

ZaHiRnYa??? · October 26th, 2004, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by szehoong

errrr......now that all Starline stations could use Touch N' Go?

IMHO - That's a milestone!

I also just noticed about that. I used it on my way to Masjid India shopping for baju melayu.

Ijud · October 26th, 2004, 07:55 AM

I saw dat day... KL Monorail is installing contactless card system but dunno whether it's T n' G or their own proprietary system!! I saw their reader machine brand... its Iris...

***szehoong*** · October 26th, 2004, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaHiRnYa???

I also just noticed about that. I used it on my way to Masjid India shopping for baju melayu.

How much an average Baju Melayu cost ar? I am thinking of buying one!

***szehoong*** · October 26th, 2004, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ijud

I saw dat day... KL Monorail is installing contactless card system but dunno whether it's T n' G or their own proprietary system!! I saw their reader machine brand... its Iris...

KL Monorail had the contactless card points at all entrances and exits since they started operations last year

I think it could be the second contactless card that Malaysia gonna have....too many cards already.....can't they just stick to one?

ANyway Iris is the largest maker of smartcards in Malaysia

ZaHiRnYa??? · October 26th, 2004, 08:12 AM

Hmmm...ranging from the cheapest quality one RM40, which I really dont think you want to buy to RM500.

Ijud · October 26th, 2004, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by szehoong

KL Monorail had the contactless card points at all entrances and exits since they started operations last year

I think it could be the second contactless card that Malaysia gonna have....too many cards already.....can't they just stick to one?

ANyway Iris is the largest maker of smartcards in Malaysia

Ehh... but i saw them opening that unit on the barrier??? Dunno why!!!?

ZaHiRnYa??? · October 26th, 2004, 08:30 AM

hmm....me confuse already

***szehoong*** · October 26th, 2004, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaHiRnYa???

Hmmm...ranging from the cheapest quality one RM40, which I really dont think you want to buy to RM500.

What you talking?

sugizm · October 26th, 2004, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaHiRnYa???

Hmmm...ranging from the cheapest quality one RM40, which I really dont think you want to buy to RM500.

baju melayu ler

June 21st, 2004, 05:05 AM	#27
Ijud Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Subang Jaya Posts: 447 Likes (Received): 0	Government yet to decide on Klang Valley transport The Star 21/06/2004 KUALA LUMPUR: The Government has not decided whether to let a private concern or a government-linked company run Klang Valley’s public transport, said Transport Minister Datuk Seri Chan Kong Choy. There was no final decision on the matter, he said here yesterday. Last October, the Government named three parties – Nadicorp Holdings Sdn Bhd executive chairman Datuk Mohamad Nadzmi Salleh, Kuala Lumpur Infrastructure Group Bhd (KLIG) and KUB Bhd – to form a consortium to take over all public transport services in the Klang Valley. Nadzmi and KLIG, which currently operates the Kuala Lumpur monorail system, hold 40% each of the consortium, Ready Network Sdn Bhd, while KUB holds the remaining 20%. No deadline on the takeover was given, and little had been said about it since its announcement. Chan said the master plan to integrate Klang Valley’s public transport would be implemented in stages. These stages will include physically integrating the different systems with walkways and escalators, introducing a common ticket and changing legislation to provide for an urban transport authority, he said. On the shelving of the RM400mil monorail system in Putrajaya, he said it was part of a move to review spending for infrastructure projects.

June 21st, 2004, 09:47 AM	#28
baqthier RISING LIKE A SPIRE! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Land of The Petronas Towers Posts: 6,304 Likes (Received): 1	These stages will include physically integrating the different systems with walkways and escalators, introducing a common ticket and changing legislation to provide for an urban transport authority, he said. Sounds promising! I hope the walkways would be the electrical ones __________________ Whatever lah! *7 YEARS OF THE MALAYSIAN FORUM Since 22nd Dec, 2002* - Kuala Lumpur Sky - Penang Sky

October 25th, 2004, 02:54 PM	#29
baqthier RISING LIKE A SPIRE! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Land of The Petronas Towers Posts: 6,304 Likes (Received): 1	2005 is soon! So what has been done? __________________ Whatever lah! *7 YEARS OF THE MALAYSIAN FORUM Since 22nd Dec, 2002* - Kuala Lumpur Sky - Penang Sky

October 26th, 2004, 07:22 AM	#31
baqthier RISING LIKE A SPIRE! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Land of The Petronas Towers Posts: 6,304 Likes (Received): 1	wow! ALL? That's great! Another news Lembah Klang tak sesak 2020 Oleh Ahmad Fauzi Mustafa KUALA LUMPUR: Jaringan sistem pengangkutan rel awam di Lembah Klang memerlukan tambahan 79.6 kilometer bagi melengkapi liputan perkhidmatan itu sebanyak 261.6 kilometer, sekali gus mengatasi kesesakan lalu lintas sepenuhnya pada 2020. Pada masa ini, jumlah seluruh jaringan rel adalah 182 kilometer dengan 96 stesen transit dan lima stesen pelbagai modus membabitkan 48 peratus liputan perkhidmatan pengangkutan awam. Antara sistem berkenaan ialah Transit Aliran Ringan (LRT) Star dan Projek Usaha Sama Transit Ringan Automatik (Putra). Menteri Wilayah Persekutuan, Tan Sri Mohd Isa Abdul Samad, berkata sebagai langkah tambahan, jaringan rel baru perlu mencapai 79.6 kilometer dengan 200 stesen transit, selain lima stesen pelbagai modus sedia ada, sekali gus menjangkau 81 peratus liputan perkhidmatan. Bagi mencapai sasaran itu, kajian mendapati proses elemen guna tanah yang bijak dan menguntungkan adalah pendekatan yang boleh menarik minat lebih lima juta orang menggunakan LRT Star dan Putra bagi membendung kesesakan kronik di sekitar Lembah Klang. ?Langkah itu sebagai sebahagian perancangan sistem rel bagi jalan penyelesaian selaras perancangan bersama Kerajaan Selangor, di samping mengikut Pelan Struktur Kuala Lumpur 2020 dalam rizab koridor yang diperlukan bagi memastikan matlamat nisbah 60:40 penggunaan pengangkutan awam dan persendirian boleh tercapai,? katanya. Beliau berkata demikian kepada pemberita selepas melancarkan Majlis Perkongsian Pintar Pas Perjalanan Bulanan LRT Star dan Putra di antara Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB) dengan badan korporat terpilih sebagai rakan pintar seperti Kenny Rogers Roasters Chicken, Pusat Boling Cosmic, Taman Tema Dunia Cosmo, Hotel Dorsett Regency dan Petrosains. Turut hadir Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif SPNB, Ridza Abdoh Saleh; Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Petrosains, Tengku Nasariah Tengku Syed Ibrahim serta wakil rakan pintar. Katanya, kementerian memerlukan kerjasama mendapatkan sebahagian kawasan daripada jalan atau tanah berhampiran laluan sistem bagi tempat letak kereta dan stesen rel baru. ?Malah ada beberapa kawasan sudah dipersetujui seperti Subang dan Petaling. Kalau tidak cukup, kita kena cari lagi tetapi buat masa ini, Unit Perancangan Ekonomi (EPU), Jabatan Perdana Menteri (JPM) masih mengkaji aspek perundangan. ?Sebagai contoh, elemen guna tanah membabitkan banyak kementerian dan agensi berkaitan dalam pelaksanaan proses menambah rangkaian rel awam di Lembah Klang,? katanya. Berdasarkan kajian kementerian, penduduk Lembah Klang dijangka meningkat hampir lapan juta menjelang 2020, berbanding 4.5 juta pada 2000. Daripada jumlah itu bilangan isi rumah yang memiliki kereta bertambah sehingga 1.4 juta keluarga. Ketika itu, jumlah kereta dijangka mencecah 2.4 juta berbanding 1.4 juta pada 2000 dan setiap isi rumah dijangka memiliki dua kereta pada 2020 dengan kereta yang digunakan ke tempat kerja meningkat kepada 2.1 juta pada 2000. Mohd Isa berkata, jumlah itu amat besar dan sekiranya tidak ditangani dengan baik, kesesakan akan menjadi masalah yang agak kritikal. ?Mengikut Bajet 2005, kadar penggunaan pengangkutan awam menurun daripada 34 peratus pada 1985 kepada 16 peratus pada masa ini, terutama bagi penggunaan bas manakala penggunaan kereta persendirian meningkat ketara daripada 47 peratus kepada 71 peratus,? katanya. Terdahulu Ridza Abdoh berkata, pelancaran perkongsian pintar pas perjalanan bulanan LRT Star dan Putra menyediakan pelbagai faedah yang ditawarkan kepada pemegang pas yang kini mencapai 50,000 orang. ?Banyak faedah boleh diperoleh seperti diskaun 10 peratus untuk sajian makanan Restoran Kenny Rogers Roasters Chicken atau diskaun 20 peratus di Pusat Boling Cosmic di Mid Valley, selain pemegang pas perjalanan boleh menikmati keistimewaan tambahan iaitu membawa isteri atau suami dan anak seramai empat orang pada hujung minggu atau cuti umum, ? katanya. __________________ Whatever lah! *7 YEARS OF THE MALAYSIAN FORUM Since 22nd Dec, 2002* - Kuala Lumpur Sky - Penang Sky

October 26th, 2004, 08:12 AM	#36
ZaHiRnYa??? you are you and i am me.. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 5,813 Likes (Received): 1	Hmmm...ranging from the cheapest quality one RM40, which I really dont think you want to buy to RM500. __________________ me, me, me and more me.. he..he...

May 7th, 2004, 07:42 PM	#21
lepainperdu i love breakfasts Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 50 Likes (Received): 0	sometimes a bus-trip to kl for me from where i live (subang jaya) would be a big test of patience and MOST OF THE TIME i want to bang my head against the tar-ed and polluted roads out of transportation-frustration. waiting for bus would take FOURTY FIVE MINUTES maybe?? half an hour if i am lucky or if the stars are kind, 15 minutes. then, it takes HALF AN HOUR for the bus to GET OUT OF THIS FILTHY TOWN especially on saturdays. like i could seriously walk farther than the bus itself in the same amount of time except i cannot bear the weather and my lungs do not wish to take in even more karbon monoksida. so it could take two hours, and you know, you could have done a lot of productive things in that time period, like hand-washing your parent's clothes or making snotty little vegetarian meals. but in kl, two hours wasted QUITE EASILY for bus waiting, bus-stopping-too-frequently's, bus-coming-back-to-opposite-road-where-you-waited-to-pick-up-more-people scenarios, and post-bus face washings. i would complain about the uncomfortable and VERY THIRD-WORLD LOOKING bus interiors and the heatwaves trapped inside these unefficient vehicles but i want to have a peaceful sleep. ugh public transport

May 8th, 2004, 07:49 AM	#22
Centrilium Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Malaysia Posts: 379 Likes (Received): 107	I've sat in a typical KL bus before from PUTRA feeder buses to Metrobus and Intrakotas...Come and take a look at Ipoh buses and I'll bet you would consider yourself so much more fortunate.

May 9th, 2004, 07:56 AM	#24
lepainperdu i love breakfasts Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 50 Likes (Received): 0	then go buy a lot of detox health food to remove all the pollutants in my blood actually i just malas drive lah :/

October 26th, 2004, 07:55 AM	#33
Ijud Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Subang Jaya Posts: 447 Likes (Received): 0	I saw dat day... KL Monorail is installing contactless card system but dunno whether it's T n' G or their own proprietary system!! I saw their reader machine brand... its Iris...

October 26th, 2004, 08:30 AM	#38
ZaHiRnYa??? you are you and i am me.. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 5,813 Likes (Received): 1	hmm....me confuse already __________________ me, me, me and more me.. he..he...

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