WNP | Naga Airport

[ianers_ianized]

AirPhil still flies to Naga, one on a daily morning flight and every Fri & Sun for additional afternoon flight. WNP seems to be a profitable route for 2P. AM flights are almost fully booked.

[ayawu]

para sa akin, 2-3 hours is not that of a big deal. sa palawan nga, u can get to subterranean river after 2 1/2 hour ride from the airport. but i guess, i do believe that naga needs an airport. pero i think it's best to put the int'l one in albay. heheh...

[jef_xavier]

Originally Posted by ianers_ianized

AirPhil still flies to Naga, one on a daily morning flight and every Fri & Sun for additional afternoon flight. WNP seems to be a profitable route for 2P. AM flights are almost fully booked.

I think so too. The afternoon flights though i think will only be until the first week of June. That's what the lady at their check-in office at the airport said.

[jef_xavier]

Just wondering, it's obvious that WNP needs to expand... But who should we push to get things started?

[kiretoce]

How about speaking to, or getting the attention of your local airport authorities and city/provincial government officials.

[AmbutLang]

Originally Posted by kalbongdad

walang character ang naga terminal....wala pang aircon....when i went there last year dun ko naexperience na ang pilot meron message na maikli ang runway and brace for an aborted landing....kaya triple dasal mo na makuha nyang mag land one time lang..

You should have seen what Mactan Airport terminal look like when it started to operate. Maliit, no aircon, noisy, smelly kapag umandar ang eroplano dahil sa usok. Ang kobita nako, hold your breath ba

[axel(08)brixx]

Originally Posted by kiretoce

How about speaking to, or getting the attention of your local airport authorities and city/provincial government officials.

Actually doing Sir eh.Think Sir Naga_boy do the best effort for this issue as well as we, Naguenos Forumers.

[Sind24]

Originally Posted by jef_xavier

Just wondering, it's obvious that WNP needs to expand... But who should we push to get things started?

Politics is the answer to that. No doubt about it. WNP was supposed to be upgraded to international standards way back in 2002 and AFAIK, there had been a budget allocated for it already. But unfortunately, estrada got ousted and so does the expansion.

The current city mayor today is not in the same politcal alliance with the president and the congressman, while the politicians in albay are political allies of the president, so their international airport materializes while Naga's expansion doesn't.

[olineil]

Originally Posted by Sind24

Politics is the answer to that. No doubt about it. WNP was supposed to be upgraded to international standards way back in 2002 and AFAIK, there had been a budget allocated for it already. But unfortunately, estrada got ousted and so does the expansion.

The current city mayor today is not in the same politcal alliance with the president and the congressman, while the politicians in albay are political allies of the president, so their international airport materializes while Naga's expansion doesn't.

Iho! Eto na naman tayo. Ilang beses ba namin lilinawin na late 90's pa yan Plano pero its just now that is gathering steam. You guys guys just find whatever blame just to bad mouth albay oficials and albayanos for that matter. Stop the sour graping please its getting pathetic!

[Sind24]

I wasn't bad mouthing the officials of albay, I just mentioned that the conflict in political alliances between Naga and the current admin has been the reason why the WNP expansion stopped, and my goodness, I didn't even mention that the WNP expansion was earlier planned than the BIA in albay, so why clear things up that the BIA was planned in the 90's?

The reason why I said that the WNP expansion was planned way back in 2002, is to inform jef_xavier that there had been a planned expansion already before,that the problem had been addressed even before and that political alliances have been depriving the WNP expansion at the moment. I included the situation of the BIA, only as a supporting detail not as a badmouthing to your officials. And if there is someone whom I have been badmouthing in my previous post, it would be the president not your officials. Totoo naman, pati pork barrels deprived yung mga opposition politicians to recieve them, di ba?

so kahit ulit-ulitin mo mang linawin na late 90's pa yan Plano, I won't care because in the first place, it's not even related to the topic. You're the one injecting the clash between the two province in the topic not me. I just can't understand why some people read beyond what they can see.

[jef_xavier]

Originally Posted by olineil

Iho! Eto na naman tayo. Ilang beses ba namin lilinawin na late 90's pa yan Plano pero its just now that is gathering steam. You guys guys just find whatever blame just to bad mouth albay oficials and albayanos for that matter. Stop the sour graping please its getting pathetic!

Hi, I dont think he was bad-mouthing Albay. It's just true that the officials there are aligned with the current administration. where's the bad-mouthing there?

And yes, late 90's pa yung plan, but ngayon lang natuloy. Which is what's happening with the WNP. Napupush-back ang plans because different people with different affiliations and priorities take-over.

To say that it's only now that the proposed BIA has gathered steam because their officials there are aligned with the administration, and that WNP has been neglected because officials there are against the administration is not to say that officials there, meaning both in albay and camsur/naga are bad. It's a statement of a political truth that we just can't deny.

[jef_xavier]

Just thinking about politics, maybe its worth pointing out that Cong. L. Villafuerte is a strong figure in the administration. I just don't understand why he doesn't pull the strings to get things done...

If the reason is that LRay, the governor is not in his side, well LRV in the past has always managed to side with the administration. Pero wala naman siyang nagawa para sa airport natin. Maybe his priorities are different lang... too bad.

[Sind24]

Originally Posted by jef_xavier

Hi, I dont think he was bad-mouthing Albay. It's just true that the officials there are aligned with the current administration. where's the bad-mouthing there?

And yes, late 90's pa yung plan, but ngayon lang natuloy. Which is what's happening with the WNP. Napupush-back ang plans because different people with different affiliations and priorities take-over.

To say that it's only now that the proposed BIA has gathered steam because their officials there are aligned with the administration, and that WNP has been neglected because officials there are against the administration is not to say that officials there, meaning both in albay and camsur/naga are bad. It's a statement of a political truth that we just can't deny.

Thank you for saying this. Again, I just don't understand why some people tend to read beyond what they can see.

Originally Posted by jef_xavier

Just thinking about politics, maybe its worth pointing out that Cong. L. Villafuerte is a strong figure in the administration. I just don't understand why he doesn't pull the strings to get things done...

If the reason is that LRay, the governor is not in his side, well LRV in the past has always managed to side with the administration. Pero wala naman siyang nagawa para sa airport natin. Maybe his priorities are different lang... too bad.

I think it's not only due to his conflicts with his son but with Robredo as well.
WNP has been suffering these political conflicts. There is even a pending proposal to change its name to Pili Airport. Another is Dato's presence in the 1st district. Arroyo would more likely favor his son to have an airport project in libmanan than expanding WNP. Again the reason is politics, and there is no badmouthing to the albay officials.

[olineil]

Hehehe... You don't have to say it. I can read between the lines. My English teacher taught me well.

Kindly explain to me then why Drilon pulled off iloilo airport in which BIA is a far cry in terms of amount of moolah appropriated. He is also opposition if I'm not wrong. I remember one time when he begged the admin not to scrap the project just because he was under investigation and a staunch admin critic.

Admittedly yes I can see salceda knows how to twist arms to get things done. At least he is doing his job. Can you blame him? Now if Lrays father is pro admin, and Lray himself Is really motivated to get a simple airport expansion done, I don't see why he can't. If he can pull off cwc on his own why not an airport expansion? I guess extreme sports is his passion and that's where he got his extra drive to continue even without admin support. That looks to me like he is indulging himself(IMHO)...... Luckily it worked out or else he would have been grilled by the trapo's of camsur for building a huge fish pond.

[kaelthas18]

Originally Posted by Sind24

Politics is the answer to that. No doubt about it. WNP was supposed to be upgraded to international standards way back in 2002 and AFAIK, there had been a budget allocated for it already. But unfortunately, estrada got ousted and so does the expansion.

The current city mayor today is not in the same politcal alliance with the president and the congressman, while the politicians in albay are political allies of the president, so their international airport materializes while Naga's expansion doesn't.

maaari nga.. ganun naman sa gov't tlga eh.. palakasan..

[Sky Harbor]

Originally Posted by olineil

Kindly explain to me then why Drilon pulled off iloilo airport in which BIA is a far cry in terms of amount of moolah appropriated. He is also opposition if I'm not wrong. I remember one time when he begged the admin not to scrap the project just because he was under investigation and a staunch admin critic.

Actually, at the time the airport was being planned and constructed, Franklin Drilon was a staunch administration supporter. He defected to the opposition well after construction had already begun (2005, at the height of Hello Garci). In addition, it was in his best interests to defend the construction of ILO against allegations of financial irregularities, arguably since the airport is his biggest pet project yet.

[ianers_ianized]

Originally Posted by jef_xavier

I think so too. The afternoon flights though i think will only be until the first week of June. That's what the lady at their check-in office at the airport said.

Is that so? Sayang nman kaka-introduce plng nman ng PM flights this May lng. I think they are testing the PM flight kung profitable din like the AM flight.

[Sind24]

Originally Posted by olineil

Hehehe... You don't have to say it. I can read between the lines. My English teacher taught me well.

Kindly explain to me then why Drilon pulled off iloilo airport in which BIA is a far cry in terms of amount of moolah appropriated. He is also opposition if I'm not wrong. I remember one time when he begged the admin not to scrap the project just because he was under investigation and a staunch admin critic.

FYI, Drilon was with the administration before, and like all the other political prostitutes, he decided to be with the opposition. Skyharbor already answered your question. And may I also add that Iloilo is a known administration territory back then unlike in the case of naga and some parts of cam sur.

Originally Posted by olineil

Admittedly yes I can see salceda knows how to twist arms to get things done. At least he is doing his job. Can you blame him?

I'm not talking about salceda's magic here and no one's blaming his magic. Albay politicians were merely used as supporting detail to the political situation in this country and your making a big deal out of it. Your making simple things complicated. It's the sick political alliances that is the problem here and defending a governor who's not even being blamed here is just nonsense. And don't ever try to cite some examples to contradict the obvious political sickness in this country. Almost all of the politicians are guilty of what I've said and by injecting and defending your governor in this topic will just not make sense at all.

Originally Posted by olineil

Now if Lrays father is pro admin, and Lray himself Is really motivated to get a simple airport expansion done, I don't see why he can't. If he can pull off cwc on his own why not an airport expansion? I guess extreme sports is his passion and that's where he got his extra drive to continue even without admin support. That looks to me like he is indulging himself(IMHO)...... Luckily it worked out or else he would have been grilled by the trapo's of camsur for building a huge fish pond.

Just because Lray made the cwc succesful, you're now expecting that he could do the airport alone. If i were him I too wouldn't consider doing it alone. Why would a governor use the money of the province for an airport when there are the agencies such as the DOTC and others which are the ones responsible for the said project. The province doesn't own or control the airport (but the DOTC?/ATO?) in my own understanding, so why pour all the money of the province in the airport? The problem of WNP is its dangerous short runway, it's the problem of the agency controlling it, the province would just help not do its expansion alone.


There had been an expansion proposal already and it has been long hanging in the NEDA infra plans and also in the DOTC. and again, politics is the reason for that, it's the obivous truth. There's no doubt about it. Even the local politicians in the province such as the mayors of naga and pili are pushing for WNP's expansion but whichever is responsible for it just continues to ignore. The DOTC is now working on the prefeasibility plan for the libmanan airport, while the mere WNP expansion which could have saved the present government from spending another airport in the province still continues to be ignored. Now tell me who's not exerting an effort here. Or was it because of the people behind the DOTC? who do you think approves the projects of the DOTC? Is it the DOTC alone, I guess not? Don't get me wrong, I'm a pro-administration but it just so happens that these political alliances are depriving and affecting the development of some, if not most, places in the country.

[habagatcentral1]

Originally Posted by Sind24

FYI, Drilon was with the administration before, and like all the other political prostitutes, he decided to be with opposition. Skyharbor already answered your question. And may I also add that Iloilo is a known administration territory up until now unlike in the case of naga and some parts of cam sur.

I'll just clarify the local politics and perception of my hometown. Yes, it was pro-administration pre-Garci days...but soon afterwards Drilon switched sides, then not all of Iloilo is pro-administration. The vice-gov (Suplico) is a staunch opposition, the gov is luke-warm admin-oppo, the city mayor of Iloilo is admin, congressmen tend top have their interests of their own and a secretary of (in)justice who is a "tuta" of the president.

The "Hello Garci" scandal and the switching allegiance of Drilon was the key factor of the changing atmosphere of political administration of Iloilo.

In other words, my hometown is a mish-mash of admin-opposition and independents (walang pakialam sa national).

The airport was launched by Gloria which is a pet project of Drilon and was faced by admin-opposition guests during its launch in 2007...she didn't faced a "solid pro-admin" crowd upon launching.

This is just to clarify the perception that Iloilo is mostly or still is pro-administration. Sorry for the OT.

[Sind24]

No prob, I already edited it. Anyway I was thinking of the district reps at your place at that time. If I'm not mistaken, most of the representatives from iloilo belong to the lakas-cmd so I assumed that the province is still an admin territory up until present.