Prince George's County Development News - Page 7

Infoman · July 17th, 2009, 06:59 PM

Yes, this is infoman.

Thank You for the Welcome Back!

I noticed that some of the southeast forums thread's are dead mostly because I'm not there, so now I have to revive them!

hpal3 · July 18th, 2009, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infoman

Yes, this is infoman.

Thank You for the Welcome Back!

I noticed that some of the southeast forums thread's are dead mostly because I'm not there, so now I have to revive them!

HaHa, I know a secret!!!

StevenW · July 18th, 2009, 02:15 PM

Do tell!!!!!

Infoman · July 18th, 2009, 10:56 PM

!Infoman is Resurrected!

StevenW · July 20th, 2009, 03:52 AM

does g-man know yet?

Infoman · July 20th, 2009, 05:49 AM

Does he know what?

PM me!

StevenW · July 20th, 2009, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infoman

Does he know what?

PM me!

that you've been "resurrected".

Infoman · July 20th, 2009, 11:42 PM

Oh...I haven't told him that I'm back yet, he hasn't been on SSC in a while!

StevenW · July 21st, 2009, 01:01 AM

i wonder where he's been?

StevenW · August 10th, 2009, 12:44 AM

Has anyone heard of this project in New Carrollton?

http://pfarc.com/on-the-boards/government-center/

Government Center
New Carrollton, Maryland
Government Center is composed of a single ‘L’ shaped 25-story office building less than 1,000 feet from the entrance to the New Carrollton MetroRail Station. The design offers an expansive amenities base housing convenience shops, a dry cleaner, full service cafeteria, on-site daycare center, fitness center and a credit union. The building also houses 1 million square feet of office space and 3,765 structured parking spaces.

The single building facility allows direct access to every employee by elevator without stepping outside. The personnel working at Government Center will benefit from a level of access to amenities that will positively impact their quality of life. Every amenity from necessity to convenience to luxury will be within their immediate reach.

CLIENT: GSA
PROJECT TYPE: Mixed Use, Office, Retail
YEAR OF COMPLETION: TBD
SCOPE OF SERVICES: Schematic Design & Planning

hpal3 · August 10th, 2009, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenW

Has anyone heard of this project in New Carrollton?

http://pfarc.com/on-the-boards/government-center/

Government Center
New Carrollton, Maryland
Government Center is composed of a single ‘L’ shaped 25-story office building less than 1,000 feet from the entrance to the New Carrollton MetroRail Station. The design offers an expansive amenities base housing convenience shops, a dry cleaner, full service cafeteria, on-site daycare center, fitness center and a credit union. The building also houses 1 million square feet of office space and 3,765 structured parking spaces.

The single building facility allows direct access to every employee by elevator without stepping outside. The personnel working at Government Center will benefit from a level of access to amenities that will positively impact their quality of life. Every amenity from necessity to convenience to luxury will be within their immediate reach.

CLIENT: GSA
PROJECT TYPE: Mixed Use, Office, Retail
YEAR OF COMPLETION: TBD
SCOPE OF SERVICES: Schematic Design & Planning

It's proposed. It will be a nice fit in that area. If built, it will have a dramatic view from I-495

StevenW · August 10th, 2009, 04:26 AM

I should say so. It will probably be one of the tallest buildings on the Maryland side of DC as well from the looks of it. 25 floors of office space.

Could be over 350 ft. tall or close to it.

hpal3 · August 14th, 2009, 07:31 PM

The train station is the nucleus. Around it, high-rise buildings with a mix of apartments, offices and shops form a bustling urban center. People use public transportation more and their cars less. They stroll on wide sidewalks past storefronts, greenery and public art.

This is the vision for the area around New Carrollton Station, circa 2030, outlined in a new transit district development plan and zoning overlay that received preliminary approval July 30 from the Prince George's County Planning Board.

The plan, which proposes zoning changes and new standards for developers, is intended to transform the area into a walkable community. At present, the area is a combination of expansive parking lots, monolithic office buildings, single-family homes and garden apartments. The main retail offerings are in shopping centers along Annapolis Road, a six-lane highway.

"The season for mega-malls and sprawl development, it's basically over," said William Washburn, the Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission coordinator who is managing the New Carrollton project. "The Washington metro area, like the rest of the nation, is facing real challenges in terms of fiscal ability to maintain services. . . . Sprawl development is becoming harder and harder to service."

The plan envisions five distinct "neighborhoods" in the 640-acre site, with as many as 5,500 housing units and as much as 6.1 million square feet of office and retail space.

A renovated train station would anchor the urban Metro Core neighborhood, where mixed-use high-rises would sprout around the existing Internal Revenue Service and Computer Sciences Corp. buildings. The surrounding neighborhoods would consist of smaller mixed-use structures and existing homes.

Extensive redevelopment is also planned for neighborhoods designated in the plan as the Annapolis Road Corridor and Garden City.

In the existing North Hillside residential neighborhood, the plan shows infill development replacing some buildings in the 187-unit Carrollon Manor apartment complex. The nearby Carrollan Gardens Condominiums would remain intact.

About 330 single-family homes in the West Lanham Hills-Hanson Oaks area, secluded neighborhoods at the western edge of the site, would also be left untouched.

"We think that this is in keeping with the trend that more and more jurisdictions are doing anyway," Washburn said. "Everybody in the region is looking at Arlington County," where development has flourished around Metro stops.

The five members of the county Planning Board voted unanimously to grant preliminary approval to the plan, a sign that they are likely to adopt it when they return from recess Sept. 10.

The area around New Carrollton Station has long been considered an ideal candidate for redevelopment because it serves as a commuter hub and a gateway to Washington for travelers coming from the north and east. The station is the eastern terminus of Metro's Orange Line and a stop for MARC and Amtrak trains and a variety of bus lines. In the region, only Union Station offers more transportation options, Washburn said.

Maryland also proposes to make the station the eastern terminus for a light-rail Purple Line between Prince George's and Montgomery counties.

Plans to redevelop the area were in place as early as the 1980s but failed to materialize. Al Dobbins, deputy planning director for the Park and Planning Commission, attributed the delay mostly to the county's historically soft commercial real estate market.

"The county as a whole just hasn't been successful in attracting transit-oriented or mixed-use development," he said. Developers might also have been deterred by the area's uneven topography, Dobbins said.

The recession helped stall several projects that were on the table.

One was a $350 million venture between Metro and Federal Development, a company that specializes in developing public property, that would have placed mixed-use high-rises on Metro land between the station and the IRS building. "Basically, it timed out," said Nat Bottigheimer, Metro's assistant general manger of planning and joint development. "Neither one of us exercised the option to continue it."

Another was Metroview, 10 mixed-use 20-story buildings planned by the Carl Williams Group and UrbanAmerica, owners of the Computer Sciences building. "It's been on hold since the real estate crash a year and a half ago," said John Lally, an attorney for Carl Williams.

Lally said Carl Williams is positioning itself to build when the economy rebounds.

If the New Carrollton plan is approved, "the council makes it clear that developers don't have to walk around in the dark," Lally said. "They say: 'Here are your guidelines, aim for this, keep the bar high, and you're likely to get our approval.' "

People who live near the station are optimistic about redevelopment, but they are also skeptical, said Kate Tsubata, a member of the West Lanham Hills Citizens' Association. "Everything that was promised to us in the past never materialized," she said. "In the early '90s, we were told that the [transit-oriented development] zone would create mixed-use development that would bring in new businesses, people interested in buying houses and creating jobs. And none of that happened. We got the IRS, which is basically a little island fortress."

Tsubata said she hopes that the final version of the plan focuses more on residents, allowing them to "be the contractors on jobs [or] have the first crack at the contracts for renting a store."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2009081400123

StevenW · August 14th, 2009, 07:51 PM

Sounds very awesome! Very promising!

hpal3 · August 14th, 2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenW

Sounds very awesome! Very promising!

I love how ambitious these developers are.

StevenW · August 14th, 2009, 08:38 PM

Yeah, me too! 10 20 story high-rises!!!!

Infoman · August 16th, 2009, 01:32 AM

Damn thats a good amount of 20 level towers, I hope it creates a skyline of some sort!

StevenW · August 16th, 2009, 02:33 AM

yeah, that would do it.

rockin'.baltimorean · August 16th, 2009, 03:58 AM

& then some....

hpal3 · August 17th, 2009, 03:34 PM

new carrolton, md

July 17th, 2009, 06:59 PM	#121
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July 21st, 2009, 01:01 AM	#129
StevenW Born in Baltimore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Newberry, SC Posts: 10,630 Likes (Received): 12	i wonder where he's been? __________________ Baltimore, my hometown.

August 10th, 2009, 12:44 AM	#130
StevenW Born in Baltimore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Newberry, SC Posts: 10,630 Likes (Received): 12	Has anyone heard of this project in New Carrollton? http://pfarc.com/on-the-boards/government-center/ Government Center New Carrollton, Maryland Government Center is composed of a single ‘L’ shaped 25-story office building less than 1,000 feet from the entrance to the New Carrollton MetroRail Station. The design offers an expansive amenities base housing convenience shops, a dry cleaner, full service cafeteria, on-site daycare center, fitness center and a credit union. The building also houses 1 million square feet of office space and 3,765 structured parking spaces. The single building facility allows direct access to every employee by elevator without stepping outside. The personnel working at Government Center will benefit from a level of access to amenities that will positively impact their quality of life. Every amenity from necessity to convenience to luxury will be within their immediate reach. CLIENT: GSA PROJECT TYPE: Mixed Use, Office, Retail YEAR OF COMPLETION: TBD SCOPE OF SERVICES: Schematic Design & Planning __________________ Baltimore, my hometown.

August 10th, 2009, 04:26 AM	#132
StevenW Born in Baltimore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Newberry, SC Posts: 10,630 Likes (Received): 12	I should say so. It will probably be one of the tallest buildings on the Maryland side of DC as well from the looks of it. 25 floors of office space. Could be over 350 ft. tall or close to it. __________________ Baltimore, my hometown.

August 14th, 2009, 07:31 PM	#133
hpal3 10 IH is dead Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Columbia, MD. Posts: 2,062 Likes (Received): 16	From the DC Post The train station is the nucleus. Around it, high-rise buildings with a mix of apartments, offices and shops form a bustling urban center. People use public transportation more and their cars less. They stroll on wide sidewalks past storefronts, greenery and public art. This is the vision for the area around New Carrollton Station, circa 2030, outlined in a new transit district development plan and zoning overlay that received preliminary approval July 30 from the Prince George's County Planning Board. The plan, which proposes zoning changes and new standards for developers, is intended to transform the area into a walkable community. At present, the area is a combination of expansive parking lots, monolithic office buildings, single-family homes and garden apartments. The main retail offerings are in shopping centers along Annapolis Road, a six-lane highway. "The season for mega-malls and sprawl development, it's basically over," said William Washburn, the Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission coordinator who is managing the New Carrollton project. "The Washington metro area, like the rest of the nation, is facing real challenges in terms of fiscal ability to maintain services. . . . Sprawl development is becoming harder and harder to service." The plan envisions five distinct "neighborhoods" in the 640-acre site, with as many as 5,500 housing units and as much as 6.1 million square feet of office and retail space. A renovated train station would anchor the urban Metro Core neighborhood, where mixed-use high-rises would sprout around the existing Internal Revenue Service and Computer Sciences Corp. buildings. The surrounding neighborhoods would consist of smaller mixed-use structures and existing homes. Extensive redevelopment is also planned for neighborhoods designated in the plan as the Annapolis Road Corridor and Garden City. In the existing North Hillside residential neighborhood, the plan shows infill development replacing some buildings in the 187-unit Carrollon Manor apartment complex. The nearby Carrollan Gardens Condominiums would remain intact. About 330 single-family homes in the West Lanham Hills-Hanson Oaks area, secluded neighborhoods at the western edge of the site, would also be left untouched. "We think that this is in keeping with the trend that more and more jurisdictions are doing anyway," Washburn said. "Everybody in the region is looking at Arlington County," where development has flourished around Metro stops. The five members of the county Planning Board voted unanimously to grant preliminary approval to the plan, a sign that they are likely to adopt it when they return from recess Sept. 10. The area around New Carrollton Station has long been considered an ideal candidate for redevelopment because it serves as a commuter hub and a gateway to Washington for travelers coming from the north and east. The station is the eastern terminus of Metro's Orange Line and a stop for MARC and Amtrak trains and a variety of bus lines. In the region, only Union Station offers more transportation options, Washburn said. Maryland also proposes to make the station the eastern terminus for a light-rail Purple Line between Prince George's and Montgomery counties. Plans to redevelop the area were in place as early as the 1980s but failed to materialize. Al Dobbins, deputy planning director for the Park and Planning Commission, attributed the delay mostly to the county's historically soft commercial real estate market. "The county as a whole just hasn't been successful in attracting transit-oriented or mixed-use development," he said. Developers might also have been deterred by the area's uneven topography, Dobbins said. The recession helped stall several projects that were on the table. One was a $350 million venture between Metro and Federal Development, a company that specializes in developing public property, that would have placed mixed-use high-rises on Metro land between the station and the IRS building. "Basically, it timed out," said Nat Bottigheimer, Metro's assistant general manger of planning and joint development. "Neither one of us exercised the option to continue it." Another was Metroview, 10 mixed-use 20-story buildings planned by the Carl Williams Group and UrbanAmerica, owners of the Computer Sciences building. "It's been on hold since the real estate crash a year and a half ago," said John Lally, an attorney for Carl Williams. Lally said Carl Williams is positioning itself to build when the economy rebounds. If the New Carrollton plan is approved, "the council makes it clear that developers don't have to walk around in the dark," Lally said. "They say: 'Here are your guidelines, aim for this, keep the bar high, and you're likely to get our approval.' " People who live near the station are optimistic about redevelopment, but they are also skeptical, said Kate Tsubata, a member of the West Lanham Hills Citizens' Association. "Everything that was promised to us in the past never materialized," she said. "In the early '90s, we were told that the [transit-oriented development] zone would create mixed-use development that would bring in new businesses, people interested in buying houses and creating jobs. And none of that happened. We got the IRS, which is basically a little island fortress." Tsubata said she hopes that the final version of the plan focuses more on residents, allowing them to "be the contractors on jobs [or] have the first crack at the contracts for renting a store." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2009081400123

August 14th, 2009, 07:51 PM	#134
StevenW Born in Baltimore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Newberry, SC Posts: 10,630 Likes (Received): 12	Sounds very awesome! Very promising! __________________ Baltimore, my hometown.

August 14th, 2009, 08:38 PM	#136
StevenW Born in Baltimore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Newberry, SC Posts: 10,630 Likes (Received): 12	Yeah, me too! 10 20 story high-rises!!!! __________________ Baltimore, my hometown.

August 16th, 2009, 01:32 AM	#137
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August 16th, 2009, 02:33 AM	#138
StevenW Born in Baltimore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Newberry, SC Posts: 10,630 Likes (Received): 12	yeah, that would do it. __________________ Baltimore, my hometown.

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August 17th, 2009, 03:34 PM	#140
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