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Old July 10th, 2012, 04:45 AM   #2381
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That's what they said about Southland Life, Republic Bank and First National way back when---
Well it does still look out of place.

...but to be fair, so does this thing:




If it looks good and the locals love it, then that's all that should matter.

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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:33 AM   #2382
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That's what they said about Southland Life, Republic Bank and First National way back when---
But those buildings were very close in height. There's a 350 ft difference between the Devon Tower and Chase Tower.

Here's the Dallas skyline in the 60s



Here's the Dallas skyline in the 50s

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Old July 10th, 2012, 07:07 AM   #2383
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It's a nice looking tower. I've never been to Oklahoma City but it looks like a definite improvement for the city.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 02:43 PM   #2384
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But those buildings were very close in height. There's a 350 ft difference between the Devon Tower and Chase Tower.

Here's the Dallas skyline in the 60s



Here's the Dallas skyline in the 50s

They were close to the same height--after they were all there. They were not built simultaneously.
The Chrysler Building and the Empire State Building stuck out.

Silly reasoning and argument. I was around Dallas and Houston as they were built and they did just fine.

Do you think cities should be erected all at once?

Oklahoma City is just making bigger leaps.

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Old July 10th, 2012, 02:52 PM   #2385
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Well it does still look out of place.

...but to be fair, so does this thing:




If it looks good and the locals love it, then that's all that should matter.
Cities should be just whatever happens. That's what makes them interesting.
BTW--this bridge is quite nice.

I could do without all the out-of-date shopping-center "lighting lines" that make D-FW look so garish. And what's with the "big X's" on the buildings?

LED's is the current technology--and far more economical. Time to retrofit Dallas.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #2386
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Am I the only one feeling these complaints about "the building looks out of place" are totally unwarranted? All places with "consolidated skylines" sometime in the past had a first thing going up. Even Manhattan, for sake!

Building a whole skyline of buildings at once is the exception rather than the rule.

I feel that some people appear to be a little resentful as in "this tower is nice, hence it shouldn't be built in Oklahoma City because city x/y/z/ is better than OKC and deserves the building more".

This is a privately financed building, there is no such thing of a place "deserving" (or not) a building...
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Old July 10th, 2012, 06:15 PM   #2387
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Cities should be just whatever happens. That's what makes them interesting.
BTW--this bridge is quite nice.

I could do without all the out-of-date shopping-center "lighting lines" that make D-FW look so garish. And what's with the "big X's" on the buildings?

LED's is the current technology--and far more economical. Time to retrofit Dallas.
Several Texas cities have LED lighting. And that 'X' you see is part of a pattern on the building. If you saw it at daytime, you'd understand.

Besides, it's not just OKC that people would feel this building would be "out of place".

If it was in San Antonio, it would be out of place. It would be out of place in Fort Worth. DEFINATELY in El Paso. People would say the same thing if it was in Tulsa, Omaha, Sacramento, Mobile, Orlando, Raleigh, Buffalo, Little Rock, and pretty much any city in that range or smaller. It's not a diss (well, from MOST of us it's not a diss), just weird.
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"It's out of place" = weird.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 07:04 PM   #2389
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Am I the only one feeling these complaints about "the building looks out of place" are totally unwarranted? All places with "consolidated skylines" sometime in the past had a first thing going up. Even Manhattan, for sake!

Building a whole skyline of buildings at once is the exception rather than the rule.

I feel that some people appear to be a little resentful as in "this tower is nice, hence it shouldn't be built in Oklahoma City because city x/y/z/ is better than OKC and deserves the building more".

This is a privately financed building, there is no such thing of a place "deserving" (or not) a building...
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Several Texas cities have LED lighting. And that 'X' you see is part of a pattern on the building. If you saw it at daytime, you'd understand.

Besides, it's not just OKC that people would feel this building would be "out of place".

If it was in San Antonio, it would be out of place. It would be out of place in Fort Worth. DEFINATELY in El Paso. People would say the same thing if it was in Tulsa, Omaha, Sacramento, Mobile, Orlando, Raleigh, Buffalo, Little Rock, and pretty much any city in that range or smaller. It's not a diss (well, from MOST of us it's not a diss), just weird.
However, I can see the arguments for it being too large for some cities in general. It would really look like a sore thumb in Little Rock, for instance. But, I wouldn't have a campaign against it, I'd say "good for Arkansas."
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I think it's a very solid meh,but will be a great skyline filler.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 08:19 PM   #2391
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I think it's a very solid meh,but will be a great skyline filler.
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I think it's a very solid meh,but will be a great skyline filler.
The Devon Tower is definitely not a 'meh' tower. It's the tallest building completed in the US so far this year and is quite a world-class building with an elegant look. I agree with your second point.
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The Devon Tower is definitely not a 'meh' tower. It's the tallest building completed in the US so far this year and is quite a world-class building with an elegant look. I agree with your second point.
I think he means it's a 'meh' as far as being in another city that has LOADS of skyscrapers. NYC, Chicago, L.A., Houston, San Fran, Philly.... those places.

It definately works as OKC's tallest.
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Cities should be just whatever happens. That's what makes them interesting.
BTW--this bridge is quite nice.

I could do without all the out-of-date shopping-center "lighting lines" that make D-FW look so garish. And what's with the "big X's" on the buildings?

LED's is the current technology--and far more economical. Time to retrofit Dallas.
I guess you haven't seen recent pictures of Dallas. The Omni Dallas Convention Center Hotel is covered in LED lights. The lights on the Reunion Tower was recently changed to LEDs.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 10:36 PM   #2395
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I think he means it's a 'meh' as far as being in another city that has LOADS of skyscrapers. NYC, Chicago, L.A., Houston, San Fran, Philly.... those places.

It definately works as OKC's tallest.
Yeah,I mean this isn't no Shard,1WTC,2WTC,or Shanghai World Financial Center but it is a great skyline addition.World Class?Nah

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Well--I think we can all agree it IS a "conversation piece".

Only people that really need to like it are the ones who built it.
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Yeah,I mean this isn't no Shard,1WTC,2WTC,or Shanghai World Financial Center but it is a great skyline addition.World Class?Nah
It is important to remember that Oklahoma City has only existed since 1889, not long in the scheme of things, and in the early 1930's had the two tallest buildings west of the Mississippi.

And it grew from a population of zero to a quarter million people in about 25 years--back in the day.
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The Skydance Pedestrian Bridge over the new I-40 through OKC is a nice addition to the city. It is at the southern end of the new large park being built between the Devon Tower and the Oklahoma River Boathouse District.

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=skydance%20bridge

http://boathousedistrict.org/
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Now the Skydance Bridge has some LED's going on, take a look at the previous post. And when it's racing, it's phenominal. It's also 192 feet above street level at it's tallest point.
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I guess you haven't seen recent pictures of Dallas. The Omni Dallas Convention Center Hotel is covered in LED lights. The lights on the Reunion Tower was recently changed to LEDs.
Thanks for that update.
Wonder how much Reunion saves with LED's -vs- whatever was there before?
LED's are marvelous, thinking about them for my home--once they get some decent designs and more plausible forms for home use. CFL's must do for now.
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