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Old October 18th, 2008, 08:26 AM   #61
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why thank you lol
that guy is just an idiot, and doesnt even make any sense
cant wait for this to be built btw
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Old October 18th, 2008, 04:15 PM   #62
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According to the people I talk too this thing is far from a go, at least not at its current size. A delay this early in the project is a very telling sign, and with the movement away from oil gaining a lot of steam Devon is reevaluating its future needs for office space.

As far as paying for the building upfront, a lot of large companies can do that. They just dont because its stupid. Paying close to a billion dollars upfront could be financial suicide for a company as small as Devon, that money is much better off being spent elsewhere and on the things a company knows best. In this case that is obviously not building skyscrapers.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 07:38 PM   #63
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THERE'S NO DELAY!! I don't know where anyone is getting that.

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Yea, at first it was to be started in spring of 09. Now it looks like it'll be fall of 09. I wish they would just get started..
It was always expected to start construction in Q3 of 2009...

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Push backs. First sign that a building wont be built.
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And Devon is not an oil company, it's an energy company. It's assets are evenly divided between oil and natural gas and they have no allegiance to traditional energy sources. We aren't going to be moving away from oil and natural gas anytime soon, and even as we do, Devon will adapt.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 08:11 PM   #64
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This should be changed to "Apr".
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Old October 18th, 2008, 09:20 PM   #65
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Its ok. Most of these people are just mindless migots that don't know a thing about OKC. A lot of them seem to think that we have a bad economy? Uhhh, news flash! Oklahoma City has one of the strongest economies in the U.S. I know the national economy still effects us, but its not slowing down this tower.

And what is this delay we're hearing about? IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PLANNED FOR A THIRD QUARTER 2009 GROUNDBREAKING! Where is this April stuff coming from? There's no delay, what the hell are you guys talking about. Especially some of you that should know better.

Lol. I just saw J Brown's post. I put the exact same thing.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #66
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According to the people I talk too this thing is far from a go, at least not at its current size. A delay this early in the project is a very telling sign, and with the movement away from oil gaining a lot of steam Devon is reevaluating its future needs for office space.

As far as paying for the building upfront, a lot of large companies can do that. They just dont because its stupid. Paying close to a billion dollars upfront could be financial suicide for a company as small as Devon, that money is much better off being spent elsewhere and on the things a company knows best. In this case that is obviously not building skyscrapers.
You seem to be campaigning against this project.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 09:57 PM   #67
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Is Devon Going to fill the entire building?
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Old October 18th, 2008, 10:43 PM   #68
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Yes, but not immediately.

When they move in they will occupy almost all of the building, but they're going to have extra space for future growth which is smart because you don't want to move into a building and then immediately grow out of it.

It is a privately owned building so yeah, its theirs and only theirs.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 10:45 PM   #69
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They will be the only tenant. The building is being designed to meet their projected growth for 4 years from now. The tower portion of the project will be secure and thus not really work for leasing out to other tenants, even if they have some available space for the first few years.
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Old October 18th, 2008, 11:47 PM   #70
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Ok, so it was always planned for 3rd quarter, but I thought when they announced the plans back in the Spring, they said it would be a year before construction would start. Now it's Fall and they're saying construction will start in a year. So delay or no? According to classof and jbrown there is no delay, so let's clear that up.

And for the last time, no one said anything about it being smart or stupid to pay up front. My point was is that Devon has plenty of money to fund this project, there's no need to worry about funds, since they are an oil, excuse me, energy company.

And yes Devon will eventually fill the entire building. I think right after completion they are going to move in 1,000 or more employees, is that right jbrown and classof? And the building is fit to hold 3,000 or 4,000 of their employees. Something like that, I forget all the details
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Ok, so it was always planned for 3rd quarter, but I thought when they announced the plans back in the Spring, they said it would be a year before construction would start. Now it's Fall and they're saying construction will start in a year. So delay or no? According to classof and jbrown there is no delay, so let's clear that up.
The "one year from now" thing was said when they revealed the tower plans just a couple months ago. So no delay.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 12:01 AM   #72
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They announced plans in August and a year from that would be Quarter 3, 2009. We knew nothing but speculation of a tower in spring of this year. We found out that a skyscraper was being planned in late spring/early summer. But we knew no details of when it would break ground until August 21st.

Gosh dangit Jbrown.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 12:30 AM   #73
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Well, there was an announcement about 9 months ago that they were going to build on that site, but it wasn't until around August 20 that they revealed the rendering, height, square footage, site plan, and begin construction date.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 01:39 AM   #74
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Ok, I was confused. I thought they released the renderings in the Spring. Ok my bad everyone. Dang it's only been that long?
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Old October 20th, 2008, 02:23 PM   #75
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wow, this is a very impressive tower, the entrance also looks top class.
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Old October 21st, 2008, 02:18 AM   #76
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Yes it is very unique I think. I forget the specs already but I think it'll either be 5 or 10 stories tall. All the specs should be on the fornt page somewhere. But yea it's a very nice atrium and goes wonderful with the tower.
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 02:12 PM   #77
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this will change the city skyline for good.
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 06:55 PM   #78
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this tower looks so good but i really wish it wasn't going to stick out of the okc skyline like a sore thumb....but with okc seemingly booming lately im hoping that there will be support towers built around it before too long
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Old November 18th, 2008, 01:48 AM   #79
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Most of the people outside of OKC see that it will look awkward, at least imo, but the people of OKC are hopeful and use Charlotte as a reference and their Bank of America tower I think it's called. We're hoping that some residential or a hotel will propose something taller than 500 feet that will help blend it in.
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