46 Blackfriars Road | Southwark | ~55m | 14 fl | Complete

london lad · August 23rd, 2008, 01:21 PM

A planning application for an 80m 20Fl Hotel/Office building should be going in for planning soon for the site next door to the awful BT building at 43-46 Blackfriars Rd. Designed HKR Architects.

***wjfox*** · August 23rd, 2008, 01:27 PM

Hmm... the previous design by Lifschutz Davidson was a million times better.

This just seems like yet another stumpy, bland, boring lump of glass. Yawn.

GazKinz · August 23rd, 2008, 10:35 PM

Does't look too bad to me, I would like to see more renderings though. If this and the the towers up road get approved (fairly likely now after Doon Street) there will be a nice step up from Palestra, to this to 20 Blackfriars Road to Beetham. I assume the top floors are residential due to the different cladding. Columbo House (the awful BT building) is indeed horrendous.

delores · August 24th, 2008, 12:50 AM

as is that horrible eighties shit next door in wonderful mirror glass.

GazKinz · August 24th, 2008, 01:14 AM

Yeah, it's f**king desperate isn't it, I have a visceral hatred of 80s post-modernism. Blackfrairs road is toss.

delores · August 24th, 2008, 03:48 AM

I do too , well this sort of building anyway, there are some good examples of Pomo in London, charing cross comes to mind.
The road really needs some improvement in the public realm, like most roads in London its too busy the pavements narrow and this road has no trees to soften the landscape and for that matter hide some of those tatty buildings. I think though the new buildings along here are really going to lift this area out of the 1970's knightmare it is at the moment.

Bena Gyerek · August 26th, 2008, 10:56 PM

they' start demolishing 80s legoland when they are finished with the brutalists.

where is this on the map exactly and how does it relate to the other projects in the area?

Officer Dibble · August 27th, 2008, 01:11 PM

Happened to cycle past all this yesterday. This proposal is to replace a reasonably attractive brick building, isn't it? No terrible loss, but it's certainly the BT/post office thing next door that really needs to go - hope it's next. I quite like the odd bit of 80s PoMo, but the Blackfriars Rd thing is admittedly hardly a shining example.

fitz44 · August 27th, 2008, 01:54 PM

http://www.hkrarchitects.com/

HKR did this pretty ordinary looking block on Alfred St in the City.

They are also doing the low-rise buildings in the Leaf development over in Ealing. Pretty run-of-the-mill stuff.
This won't be anything to get excited about I'm sure;

***gothicform*** · August 28th, 2008, 01:16 PM

here's a higher resolution image -

Comdot · August 28th, 2008, 06:20 PM

it has perpendicular panels as with beetham tower manchester.
also has the same style facade pattern, which i wish would go away now. i just can't believe it's turned into a whole architectural movement.

DarJoLe · August 28th, 2008, 06:28 PM

It looks like a really weird mix of Allies & Morrison's HQ, a bit of Bankside 1 and No. 1 The Gateway.

Officer Dibble · September 1st, 2008, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Officer Dibble

This proposal is to replace a reasonably attractive brick building, isn't it?

Si, agente. This one. Not all that attractive really, although given how dire everything else is on Blackfriars Road is, it's almost worth saving.

Smoggie_Si · September 1st, 2008, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comdot

it has perpendicular panels as with beetham tower manchester.
also has the same style facade pattern, which i wish would go away now. i just can't believe it's turned into a whole architectural movement.

Totally agree mate, this asymmetrical cladding is going to date faster than a pair of purple 70's loon pants.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Officer Dibble

Si, agente. This one. Not all that attractive really, although given how dire everything else is on Blackfriars Road is, it's almost worth saving.

Yeah I was having a look when I walked past on Friday, s'alright but looking pretty tired and certainly not worthy of retention imo, although as you rightly say compared to the rest of the dross on Blackfriars Road it looks like a masterpiece!

london lad · June 7th, 2009, 11:27 AM

Finally went in for planning as a 14 storey hotel.

Interesting design evolution over a number of years (shows how long proposals can take before a planning app materialises).

Initial plans for 30fl was gradually reduced as Southwark planners decided that taller buildings should decrease in height from the top of Blackfriars road before finally wanting the building to be the same height as the Wedge house proposal next door.

delores · June 7th, 2009, 11:27 PM

Oh dear.....what happened? same height as the shit building next door? great idea Southwark planners, like thats a benchmark of great design down that road.

***gothicform*** · June 8th, 2009, 10:07 AM

do you have a link to the planning application?

GazKinz · November 21st, 2009, 09:50 PM

The 'white sheet of death' has gone around the building on this site, hoarding have gone up and the car park is now closed.

GazKinz · December 15th, 2009, 11:52 PM

And now she meets her fate

image hosted on flickr

mirrorglass · November 21st, 2010, 02:12 AM

Work resumed a few weeks ago, looking at the developers site, this is likely to be another blackfriars eyesore..... interesting development on the horison though...

I happen to have a good vantage point from that shit 80's building next door

Will post when it begins to rise.

August 23rd, 2008, 01:21 PM	#1
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	46 Blackfriars Road \| Southwark \| ~55m \| 14 fl \| Complete A planning application for an 80m 20Fl Hotel/Office building should be going in for planning soon for the site next door to the awful BT building at 43-46 Blackfriars Rd. Designed HKR Architects.

August 23rd, 2008, 01:27 PM	#2
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 36,120 Likes (Received): 905	Hmm... the previous design by Lifschutz Davidson was a million times better. This just seems like yet another stumpy, bland, boring lump of glass. Yawn. __________________ FutureTimeline.net - a timeline of future history

August 23rd, 2008, 10:35 PM	#3
GazKinz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Camden Town Posts: 2,185 Likes (Received): 0	Does't look too bad to me, I would like to see more renderings though. If this and the the towers up road get approved (fairly likely now after Doon Street) there will be a nice step up from Palestra, to this to 20 Blackfriars Road to Beetham. I assume the top floors are residential due to the different cladding. Columbo House (the awful BT building) is indeed horrendous. __________________ My best shots of 2010 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazkinz/

August 24th, 2008, 01:14 AM	#5
GazKinz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Camden Town Posts: 2,185 Likes (Received): 0	Yeah, it's f**king desperate isn't it, I have a visceral hatred of 80s post-modernism. Blackfrairs road is toss. __________________ My best shots of 2010 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazkinz/

August 27th, 2008, 01:11 PM	#8
Officer Dibble cartoon policeman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Londres Posts: 2,961 Likes (Received): 40	Happened to cycle past all this yesterday. This proposal is to replace a reasonably attractive brick building, isn't it? No terrible loss, but it's certainly the BT/post office thing next door that really needs to go - hope it's next. I quite like the odd bit of 80s PoMo, but the Blackfriars Rd thing is admittedly hardly a shining example. __________________ dibble music

August 24th, 2008, 12:50 AM	#4
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,562 Likes (Received): 24	as is that horrible eighties shit next door in wonderful mirror glass.

August 24th, 2008, 03:48 AM	#6
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,562 Likes (Received): 24	I do too , well this sort of building anyway, there are some good examples of Pomo in London, charing cross comes to mind. The road really needs some improvement in the public realm, like most roads in London its too busy the pavements narrow and this road has no trees to soften the landscape and for that matter hide some of those tatty buildings. I think though the new buildings along here are really going to lift this area out of the 1970's knightmare it is at the moment.

August 26th, 2008, 10:56 PM	#7
Bena Gyerek Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 168 Likes (Received): 0	they' start demolishing 80s legoland when they are finished with the brutalists. where is this on the map exactly and how does it relate to the other projects in the area?

August 27th, 2008, 01:54 PM	#9
fitz44 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,203 Likes (Received): 6	http://www.hkrarchitects.com/ HKR did this pretty ordinary looking block on Alfred St in the City. They are also doing the low-rise buildings in the Leaf development over in Ealing. Pretty run-of-the-mill stuff. This won't be anything to get excited about I'm sure; __________________ London Random and Unseen Photos; http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=637985

August 28th, 2008, 01:16 PM	#10
*gothicform* Bossman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: not london Posts: 29,147 Likes (Received): 481	here's a higher resolution image -

August 28th, 2008, 06:20 PM	#11
Comdot Taikun Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 10,199 Likes (Received): 0	it has perpendicular panels as with beetham tower manchester. also has the same style facade pattern, which i wish would go away now. i just can't believe it's turned into a whole architectural movement.

August 28th, 2008, 06:28 PM	#12
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,662 Likes (Received): 393	It looks like a really weird mix of Allies & Morrison's HQ, a bit of Bankside 1 and No. 1 The Gateway. __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

June 7th, 2009, 11:27 AM	#15
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	Finally went in for planning as a 14 storey hotel. Interesting design evolution over a number of years (shows how long proposals can take before a planning app materialises). Initial plans for 30fl was gradually reduced as Southwark planners decided that taller buildings should decrease in height from the top of Blackfriars road before finally wanting the building to be the same height as the Wedge house proposal next door.

June 7th, 2009, 11:27 PM	#16
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,562 Likes (Received): 24	Oh dear.....what happened? same height as the shit building next door? great idea Southwark planners, like thats a benchmark of great design down that road.

June 8th, 2009, 10:07 AM	#17
*gothicform* Bossman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: not london Posts: 29,147 Likes (Received): 481	do you have a link to the planning application?

November 21st, 2009, 09:50 PM	#18
GazKinz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Camden Town Posts: 2,185 Likes (Received): 0	The 'white sheet of death' has gone around the building on this site, hoarding have gone up and the car park is now closed. __________________ My best shots of 2010 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazkinz/

December 15th, 2009, 11:52 PM	#19
GazKinz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Camden Town Posts: 2,185 Likes (Received): 0	And now she meets her fate image hosted on flickr __________________ My best shots of 2010 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazkinz/

November 21st, 2010, 02:12 AM	#20
mirrorglass Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8 Likes (Received): 0	Work resumed a few weeks ago, looking at the developers site, this is likely to be another blackfriars eyesore..... interesting development on the horison though... I happen to have a good vantage point from that shit 80's building next door Will post when it begins to rise. Last edited by mirrorglass; November 21st, 2010 at 02:32 AM.

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