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Old July 9th, 2005, 06:14 PM   #21
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I can't still understand how Austria/Switzerland won it for 2008. At least 4, 5 of those bids are much stornger than Austria/Switzerland...
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Old July 9th, 2005, 06:22 PM   #22
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Kayseri is planning a new station 35.000 ppl
uh is that stadium the one built for the 2002 soccer world cup?
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Old July 9th, 2005, 06:30 PM   #23
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uh is that stadium the one built for the 2002 soccer world cup?
I wouldnt doubt it. Kuvvaci is known to do stupid things
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Old July 9th, 2005, 07:30 PM   #24
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Hungary and Croatia for me
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Old July 9th, 2005, 09:20 PM   #25
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uh is that stadium the one built for the 2002 soccer world cup?
Yes I think it might be, but that's because Kayseri's new stadium will be based upon the design of this one
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Old July 9th, 2005, 09:24 PM   #26
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I wouldnt doubt it. Kuvvaci is known to do stupid things
never stupid things file...

First design was different. You can read the details at the New Stadium in Kayseri thread of Turkey forum

(a hint: they are doing the same design)
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Old July 9th, 2005, 09:32 PM   #27
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=178809

First design was diffferent, it was with a running track. But later with the candidature of Turkey for EURO 2012. Kayseri changed the design immiditelly, they had to show a project to Turkish Football Federation because the city wanted to be a part of this bid. So, they bought this design Yes, it will be the same, but according to the capacity they will make some changes of course...

BTW, Giorgos, this style didn't suit to you, not so kind and in the limits of the respect... This is called as personal attack and insult...
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Old July 9th, 2005, 10:32 PM   #28
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I would want Polska but Greece and Turkey have the stadiums needed
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Old July 9th, 2005, 10:33 PM   #29
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Turkey....
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Old July 9th, 2005, 10:34 PM   #30
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Don't forget Italy and Russia...
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Old July 9th, 2005, 11:06 PM   #31
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It can`t be Turkey because they have already hosted CL finals (Liverpool <> AC Milan)... so it would different country in my opinion.

I wish it was Poland and Ukraine, but we need to bulid big stadions (I think they have already started...)
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Old July 9th, 2005, 11:06 PM   #32
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Old July 9th, 2005, 11:17 PM   #33
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I'm sorry, but I disagree, and this is Not for any matter of prejudice.
Don't take me wrong. I am not christian, nor jewish, nor muslim.

But I don't believe Azerbaijan and Turkey are part of Europe.
I see Continents not as economical clubs, but as cultural and identity units.
In everything, Turkey and Azerbaijan are Asia, like Kazakhstan, Uzbekhstan, Kyrgistan, Turkmenistan, Mongolia, Palestine, Israel, China, Japan, India, etc.

For a World Cup, Yes, I would surely vote for Turkey comparing with the other 7 bids, but not for a European Cup, because I think it's a paradox. Turkey was always an external power in Europe like Portugal was in Africa, and I don't believe Africa would as well like to see a CAF Nations Cup organized in Portugal, nor it would be logical an american CONCACAF Cup taking place in England or Spain, etc.

It is a matter of logic.

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Old July 9th, 2005, 11:45 PM   #34
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I'm sorry, but I disagree, and this is Not for any matter of prejudice.
Don't take me wrong. I am not christian, nor jewish, nor muslim.

But I don't believe Azerbaijan and Turkey are part of Europe.
This is almost the 1 000 000 post to say that Turkey, Azerbaitjan, Cyprus or Kazaksthan are not part of Europe....

But, that's not the problem: thoose countries are member of UEFA. If they are allowed to play with european teams, they can host Euro 2012.
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Old July 10th, 2005, 12:18 AM   #35
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I have to agree with Gallama. But, as eomer pointed out, nothing we can do about it, so lets just leave it to voting for countries. IMO the UK has the strongest bid together with Italy, since they're both obviously hands down the biggest soccer countries that are in the mix. However, giving the UK both the Olympics and the European Cup, regardless of whether they can handle it, is pretty much spitting in the face of all the other contestants. Italy, I guess, would be a safe choice, although facilities would need facelifts, and I'd much rather see it happen in a different country.

I think the countries that have the strongest bid are Turkey and Russia, since they have the population, and some of the wealth, to support expanding or building new stadiums for the event, unlike Portugal for example, as we've seen.
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Old July 10th, 2005, 12:44 AM   #36
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heck, they can host it right now with no new stadiums
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Old July 10th, 2005, 01:39 AM   #37
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polan, that's good for the economy.
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Old July 10th, 2005, 03:56 AM   #38
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I think poland and ukraine would be sick, when was the last time an event like this was held in eastern europe. Plus if they got it, the stadiums wuld be built.
Polish Stadiums for Euro 2012
Krakow - 35 000
Warszawa - 35 000+ and maybe 50 000 (brand new stadiums)
Gdansk - 30 000 (new stadium)
Poznan - 40 000
Chorzow - 50 000
Plus new stadiums in Ukraine like Donetsk - 50 000
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Old July 10th, 2005, 04:47 AM   #39
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POLAND/UKRAINE 2012

THE POLAND/UKRAINE 2012 BID FOR THE EUROPEAN FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS.



STADIA TO BE USED:capacities given are at present and not with upgrades which are almost likely

THE AMAZING AND ONE OF MY FAVOURITE STADIA
SHAKTHAR DONESTK STADIUM: 50,000


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Stadion NSK Olimpiyskiy
83,160



Stadion Tsentralnyi Chornomorets
30.767



Stadion Metalurh (Krivyi Rih): 30,000



Stadion Ukrajina 30,000



Stadion Yuvileiny
30,000





Stadion Poznan Lecha 40,000



Stadion Wizly 30,650



Stadion Lechii 30,000




Stadium Chorzow 43,000



Stadion Slaska 25,000

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Old July 10th, 2005, 06:50 AM   #40
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my vote goes to TURKEY
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