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Old April 18th, 2007, 11:14 PM   #461
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Projects of stadiums:

Gdansk - Baltic Arena
Total capacity: 44 000










Warsaw - National Stadium
Total capacity: 70 000
Both versions aren't final
I version:




II version:






Donetsk - Shakhstar Stadium
Total capacity: 55 000










Kiev - Olympic Stadium - design probably will be changed
Total capacity: 83 053


Dnipropetrovsk
Total capacity: 34 000







Lvov
Total capacity: 40 000


Slaski Stadium
Total capacity: 60 000


Wroclaw
Total capacity: 45 000
Both projects of this two stadiums probably will be changed
I stadium:


II stadium:


Poznan
Total capacity: 46 500


Krakow - Wisla Stadium
Total capacity: 33 000

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Old April 18th, 2007, 11:52 PM   #462
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congrates!!very nice pics!baltic arena,poznan,slaski
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Old April 19th, 2007, 12:06 AM   #463
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Just read an article about it on the news website of the national tv. They write that the selection of Poland&Ukraine is very surprising because of the political climate (especially in Ukraine, although something could be said about Poland as well) and the size of both countries (2.000km from Gdansk to Donetsk), but (logically) that this event can boost their economies.

Polish football fans definitely deserve it, fanatic as they are!

Thanks Chimaera. We hoping EURO2012 will be one of the best ever made. In addition our government is realy sure that all will be ready till 2012. And of course at the latest our infrastructure must be realy improved. Our economy in Poland still rising up so we thing this event can only help us. We can worry a little about Ukraine and their political stability but I think its temporary and everything should back to normal quite soon.

Our cities in Poland since tomorrow organizes a conferences and start to work hard.

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Old April 19th, 2007, 12:59 AM   #464
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The mayor of Kiev wants to build in Kiev a stadium for 200m euro
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Old April 19th, 2007, 03:24 AM   #465
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Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!! A well deserved choice!
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Old April 19th, 2007, 11:12 AM   #466
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I keep wondering why Poland needed Ukraine for the bid though? Seems they have some real good planned or u/c stadiums! Two new stadiums in Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw, Chrorzow, Poznan, Krakow... Maybe one in Lodz, and you would've had 8 stadiums, enough to organize euro2012!
Wouldve made things easier, plus the infrastructure is generaly in a better state in Poland than in Ukraine, and travelling distances would have been smaller! I mean, check this picture out:



But, it is ofcourse great that Ukraine is going to co-host euro 2012, I hope it will be a driver for economic development there!
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Old April 19th, 2007, 08:56 PM   #467
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I'm disappointed, I was hoping for Croatia/Hungary, but it might be an political reason why they get the EURO 2012. However my congratulations to our slavic-brothers in Poland/Ukraine.

The stadium of Warsaw is quite similar to the Allianz Arena in Munich!
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Old April 19th, 2007, 10:32 PM   #468
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I'm disappointed, I was hoping for Croatia/Hungary, but it might be an political reason why they get the EURO 2012. However my congratulations to our slavic-brothers in Poland/Ukraine. !
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The stadium of Warsaw is quite similar to the Allianz Arena in Munich!
It's unoficial project, like in Wroclaw.
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Old April 19th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #469
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It's unoficial project, like in Wroclaw.
Yeap, and that's why I'm confused, because the projects should have been finished a long time ago, like the rest of the stadiums' projects in Poland. However I'm almost sure about Wroclaw stadium (the city mayor is a clever guy), but the Warsaw "Arena" probably will be struggling because of the relations between the Prime Minister and the Warsaw mayor... but I hope not...
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Old April 19th, 2007, 11:08 PM   #470
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I keep wondering why Poland needed Ukraine for the bid though? Seems they have some real good planned or u/c stadiums! Two new stadiums in Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw, Chrorzow, Poznan, Krakow... Maybe one in Lodz, and you would've had 8 stadiums, enough to organize euro2012!
It was an Ukrainian idea to organize euro2012 together with Poland. They were the main initiators of this project. I have heard that they initially tried to invite Russia instead of Poland, but Putin said - no!

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Old April 19th, 2007, 11:09 PM   #471
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All stadiums are gorgeous, except the ones in Poznan and Krakow, but Krakow is just a reserve city anyway.
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Old April 19th, 2007, 11:35 PM   #472
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All stadiums are gorgeous, except the ones in Poznan and Krakow, but Krakow is just a reserve city anyway.
Well look again at the Chorzow project (Slaski Stadium) - the stadium is from early 50's and all they have to do is the roof and restoring the observation tower. Although the stadium is big and has a very good environment (training pitches, hotel etc.), it is tragic and all I would do to it is blowing it up and building a new one. By the way the cost of making the roof and the tower is about 150 mln zł ( ~50 mln euro ).
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Old April 20th, 2007, 12:17 AM   #473
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I keep wondering why Poland needed Ukraine for the bid though? Seems they have some real good planned or u/c stadiums! Two new stadiums in Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw, Chrorzow, Poznan, Krakow... Maybe one in Lodz, and you would've had 8 stadiums, enough to organize euro2012!
Wouldve made things easier, plus the infrastructure is generaly in a better state in Poland than in Ukraine, and travelling distances would have been smaller! I mean, check this picture out:



But, it is ofcourse great that Ukraine is going to co-host euro 2012, I hope it will be a driver for economic development there!
Im happy that Ukraine is doing it with Poland!

I also dont know why Ukraine needed Poland for the bid if Ukraine has a lot of new stadiums and still is bulding more so we would be fine for EURO 2012.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 01:04 AM   #474
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WORLD CLASS stadiums there. They put the Austria/Switzerland 2008 stadiums to shame, and rival even those of the World Cup in Japan/South Korea. A big thumbs up and pat on the back to Poland & Ukraine
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Old April 20th, 2007, 01:57 AM   #475
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True.
However, you force me to ask about the post-2012 use of these stadia...
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Old April 20th, 2007, 02:26 AM   #476
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Ukraine is already building, in fact, nearing completion, of two of the stadiums. Here are the corresponding threads:

Dnipropetrovsk stadium
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=438751

5 star Donetsk stadium
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=437698

As to Poland and Ukraine question. Ukraine needed Poland, and Poland needed Ukraine.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 02:32 AM   #477
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WORLD CLASS stadiums there. They put the Austria/Switzerland 2008 stadiums to shame, and rival even those of the World Cup in Japan/South Korea. A big thumbs up and pat on the back to Poland & Ukraine
They put the Belgian Euro 2000 stadiums to shame too

What Belgian and Austrian and Swiss stadiums/organization seem to have in common, is realism: not investing too much, infact just the minimum, and making sure that the stadiums get filled afterwards. It might look like a paradox, that some of the richer countries are more careful then Poland and Ukraine...

But... what's the reality today? The stadium in Liège mighty be expanded, closed and get a mobile roof, Bruges and Brussels lack comfort and Bruges is getting too small (crowds have dubbled in a few years time) and in Charleroi the steep third tier (remember England-Germany) has been dismantled and re-erected at a local velodrome.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 02:48 AM   #478
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A video showing Ukraine's Donetsk stadium, which will be finished in 2008
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Old April 20th, 2007, 11:05 AM   #479
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Congratiulations!!!! deserved winner mop!
I only wunder if they can finish everything in time... (it ´s only three years to go...) but I guess it is possible
deserved winner? its a joke. i cant see how can they manage a European championship

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