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Old April 22nd, 2007, 07:38 AM   #501
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Yes, in Ukraine, many Kharkivians and Odessits were upset that their cities are larger than Lviv, and they didn't get to have any games there. So 6 stadiums per country is a good idea.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 11:24 AM   #502
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Shame they can't get 24 teams in for Euro 2012 already because there is capacity for it.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 12:18 PM   #503
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Ha this was decided in my city Cardiff, here you can see where it happened

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Old April 22nd, 2007, 12:52 PM   #504
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In the WC2006 in Germany there was a stadium that had a box hanging over the field by wires. The shadows created by this monstrosity were extremely annoying and made it hard to observe the game. This design takes annoying shadows to a whole new level. For my viewing pleasure and for Kiev I hope they change this design.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 12:52 PM   #505
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new one for kiev
for will happend to the olympic stadium
where will be the new stadium?
capacity?

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Old April 22nd, 2007, 01:52 PM   #506
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It's funny, all the media in Poland were saying before the vote that it's sure that Platini will support the POL-UKR candidate (Platini was supposed to promise it to Boniek, one of Poland greatest players and his close friend)

And how it ended? Platini voted for Italy...
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 03:22 PM   #507
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Congrats Poland and Ukraine!
"Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki."
"Lengyel, magyar, két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát."
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 05:29 PM   #508
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Congrats Poland and Ukraine!
"Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki."
"Lengyel, magyar, két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát."
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 05:36 PM   #509
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So far all we know is that Olympic stadium will be reconstructed, but not used during the Championship. The new stadium will be located further away from the centre, with enough space for a huge parking lot, will be around 70k of capacity and will cost around 200m euro.

More specific information will probably be received within the next couple of days
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 05:46 PM   #510
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It must be hard for Hungary, third time in a row, this time they had chances, unlike 2004 and 2008 when they had no chance of winning the vote.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 05:59 PM   #511
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I dont get it, why use 12 stadiums if only 8 are needed? Even for the world cup only 10 stadiums are used! In some stadiums, only 3 games will be played...c'mon. I bet some of them will be white elephants after the tournament, like what happened in Portugal! Shouldn't Poland and Ukraine focus on fewer cities with better facilities?
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 07:11 PM   #512
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Every big/major city wants to be part of it, and they are jealous that anyone city gets it instead of them.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 09:13 PM   #513
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so i think it will like in germany
16 citties/stadium wanted to host the wc
but the dfb choose only 12
so IMO the same will be here
12 cities/stadiums
and later they will choose 8
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 09:45 PM   #514
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Design of second stadium in Warsaw:
capacity: 31 000
cost: 65 milion Euro





Of course this stadium isn't for Euro 2012, but for local team - Legia Warsaw. Although national teams which will be play their matches in Warsaw can use the stadium as a good place for training.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 10:50 PM   #515
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Most of you probably saw Baltic Arena plans. And now couple of shots from old city in Gdansk
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 11:43 PM   #516
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There are talks going on with UEFA to change the number of stadiums from 8 to 12 (6 in each country).
Portugal (10mln people) was allowed to hold the Euro on 10 stadiums instead of 8. Poland and Ukraine are far bigger countries, so there is chance that UEFA allows to raise the number of stadiums. The additional cities will be Cracow and Chorzow in Poland, and Odessa and Kharkiv in Ukraine.
I think in this case it makes a little more sense. With us, it was more about using the competition to leverage the upgrading of facilities, even if we ended up overdoing it, because the truth of the matter was most of the facilities needed replacement. Second, as opposed to our small land area, where it takes less than half-a-day to go from north to south, there are long distances to cover in Ukraine and Poland. With more venues, they can cut the distances the teams have to travel by at least half. Then you split the finalists according to each country.

For example: If we were a finalist, I would like to go to Gdansk-Poznan-Warsaw. Or Lviv-Kiev-Odessa. Pray that it won't be some ridiculous thing like Krakow-Dniepropetrovsk-Khirkiv or Chorzow-Donetsk-Odessa. But you won't know how the genuises involved will behave.

Beyond the group matches, distances will increase. No choice in that one.
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 12:17 AM   #517
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They should just do what they did for South Korea/Japan.

Have groups play in just one country.

Then for the final rounds, have one side of the bracket play in Poland, the other in Ukaine.
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 03:13 AM   #518
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Well then. Since North posted some pics from Gdansk I'll post a few of Krakow as well. It's a reserve city, but who said anyone should ignore it? Especially it's the main point where roads from Polsand to Ukraine (and back) cross. [photos aren't mine]

Wawel castle in winter
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Kanonicza Street- the oldest and in my opinion most charming in Krakow
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St. Mary's Church at main square
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The Cloth Hall, main square
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 04:00 AM   #519
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Then I will post a couple from Kyiv, where Euro 2012 final will take place







[IMG]http://i13.************/2n1xiiq.jpg[/IMG]

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Old April 23rd, 2007, 11:13 AM   #520
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awesome stadiums, love the design for Warsaw National Stadium
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