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Old September 28th, 2008, 01:45 PM   #661
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Old October 8th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #662
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Find any differences

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Old October 8th, 2008, 04:19 PM   #663
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Stadium in Chorzow is some kind of misunderstanding...They've already spent like 100mln euros and they need like 50mln euro on the roof. That's how we're wasting money in Poland
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Old October 8th, 2008, 05:47 PM   #664
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this bid has sooo many problems...

uefa gived ukraine a yelow card then one to poland... bouth for not geting the projects started...

dose someting realy hapening in these contries? do they have a cerntency that they will be redy?
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Old October 8th, 2008, 06:54 PM   #665
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this bid has sooo many problems...

uefa gived ukraine a yelow card then one to poland... bouth for not geting the projects started...

dose someting realy hapening in these contries? do they have a cerntency that they will be redy?
Poland will be ready, You can be sure!
Two objects are in structure already. Foundations next two stadiums already started. Last two will be started for july 2009 year.
Most important, that all own projects and permits on structure. Schedule is realized without delays.
So, don't worry, it will not be problems
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Old October 8th, 2008, 09:18 PM   #666
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Even tho in portugal for example stadiums were opened like 3-6 months before the event (euro 2004). Also, last arena on euro 2008 was opened like 1 month before the event...
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Old October 8th, 2008, 10:19 PM   #667
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Even tho in portugal for example stadiums were opened like 3-6 months before the event (euro 2004). Also, last arena on euro 2008 was opened like 1 month before the event...
Plus Switzerland (yes! the rich and beautiful Switzerland) got a yellow for Letzigrund (or actually for Stadion Zurich replaced by Letzi). So no bid goes through without a scratch.

But I don't think Cornelinho wanted any information. He just seems to say something to say anything. After all, when I came back to this forum after a few months break I was shocked with the amount of Polish threads! The whole front page is loaded with our country's projects and he's asking whether anythign's going on...
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Old October 8th, 2008, 11:21 PM   #668
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'Śląski' before Euro2012 will be much bigger.No it has capacity 47.000,in 2010 it will be expented to 52.000.Before Euro it may has 60.000+ seats and again 'Śląski' will be the biggest stadium in Poland.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 08:32 AM   #669
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this bid has sooo many problems...
uefa gived ukraine a yelow card then one to poland... bouth for not geting the projects started... dose someting realy hapening in these contries? do they have a cerntency that they will be redy?
No, absolutely nothing is happening. At the end, when 2012 comes, there will not be a single stadium ready and some western country will have to rescue the event! However, there is hope that the leadership of both countries has started to prepare: just two days ago, Ukraine and Poland have agreed to buy 5,000 more horses from Uzbekistan to provide for transportation during the competition.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 08:36 AM   #670
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Poland will be ready, You can be sure!
Two objects are in structure already. Foundations next two stadiums already started. Last two will be started for july 2009 year.
In Ukraine 1 stadium is completed and opened, 2 will open in 2009, 2 more are under construction as of right now and the Olympic Stadium is undergoing reconstruction since a month or so ago.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 09:15 AM   #671
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I like that stadium in Chorzow. On the picture posted by Martiness it looks a bit like some American stadiums.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 11:47 AM   #672
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In Ukraine 1 stadium is completed and opened, 2 will open in 2009, 2 more are under construction as of right now and the Olympic Stadium is undergoing reconstruction since a month or so ago.
So, everything it seems be all right and has to be no trouble.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:37 PM   #673
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So, everything it seems be all right and has to be no trouble.
I also hope. But EURO is not only stadiums. What about airports, hotels, roads, the whole infrastructure?

+ chaos in parliament (3th elections in 3 years; 5% rating of president), terrible situation in economics (world financial crisis). All this moments can strongly to affect on situation.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 06:37 PM   #674
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I also hope. But EURO is not only stadiums. What about airports, hotels, roads, the whole infrastructure?

+ chaos in parliament (3th elections in 3 years; 5% rating of president), terrible situation in economics (world financial crisis). All this moments can strongly to affect on situation.
Hotel base is in poland enough and still develop. Roads and airports are not super and they will not be definitely great. However, we work upon it.
But we will not bring shame.
I believe that there will be wonderful tournament.
You will see
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Old October 9th, 2008, 07:54 PM   #675
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Martiness: It was about Ukraine tho. And what about Poland...I can give a small...let's say a handfull information...

Stadiums:

Warsaw: U/C
Wroclaw: Construction start in XII.2008
Gdansk: First phase of construction start in XII.2008
Poznan: U/C
Krakow: U/C
Chorzow: Construction start in VI.2009 (roof only) + extra stand

Airtports:

Warsaw: New terminal had been just opened, till 2012 they are gonna modenize old terminal + 3-4 bln euros investments around the airport
Gdansk: Construction of the new terminal is gonna start in spring 2009
Wroclaw: Construction of the new terminal is gonna start in spring 2009
Krakow: I have no idea when the construction of the terminal is gonna start...
Poznan: Same....
Chorzow: Same....

Roads: I'm not an expert but as far as I know, now we have like 600km u/c and around 2000kms more in 2009-2012...

Hotels: That's not a problem imo. There's alot of new hotels u/c and more to come so...

Railways: Main railways routes are modernizing now, new trans etc..

Also you have to remember, that Poland just like Ukraine is a quuuuite big country so, it's not so easy to do everything in like 4 or 5 years...But e2012 is gonna be a great event, that's for sure!
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Old October 9th, 2008, 08:04 PM   #676
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I also hope. But EURO is not only stadiums. What about airports, hotels, roads, the whole infrastructure?

+ chaos in parliament (3th elections in 3 years; 5% rating of president), terrible situation in economics (world financial crisis). All this moments can strongly to affect on situation.
The hotels are being built, Dnipro alone will have 12 5-star hotels by 2012, the airports are all undergoing or starting to undergone a reconstruction and roads are built quicker than any at other time in Ukranie's history, just recently few weeks ago Kharkiv-Dnipro highway opened.

This Euro will be the best of all, beating all records and having the best stadiums both in Ukraine and in Poland. Some really wish it to fail, but their jealousy can only go as far as negative remarks on the forums
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Old October 9th, 2008, 08:26 PM   #677
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I also think that Euro 2012 will take place in 4 cities in Poland and in 4 in the Ukraine. People think that nothing in the Ukraine outside stadiums is building a house, and at least 4 cities will be ready to organize the Euro (Donieck, Dniepropietrowsk, Kiev, Odessa, Kharkiv and perhaps even Lvov will be in time) Many Poles count on 6 cities in Poland and 2 in the Ukraine, however Ukrainian cities certainly will form. Let us hope for the best, they are heralding to ones of the best European championships in history.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #678
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Roads: I'm not an expert but as far as I know, now we have like 600km u/c and around 2000kms more in 2009-2012...
Around 495 km is being constructed (expressways and motorways).
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I also think that Euro 2012 will take place in 4 cities in Poland and in 4 in the Ukraine. People think that nothing in the Ukraine outside stadiums is building a house, and at least 4 cities will be ready to organize the Euro (Donieck, Dniepropietrowsk, Kiev, Odessa, Kharkiv and perhaps even Lvov will be in time) Many Poles count on 6 cities in Poland and 2 in the Ukraine, however Ukrainian cities certainly will form. Let us hope for the best, they are heralding to ones of the best European championships in history.
Why do many Poles think that? In Ukraine it's 100% certain that 6 cities will be ready, why would it be reduced to 2
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Old October 10th, 2008, 12:19 AM   #680
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As for today it's 4+4 and probably uefa won't change anything, but they can remove 1 or 2 UKR. cities because for example they won't have enough hotels or something. And like someone already said, it's not only about the stadiums only, because it's obvious that all 12 stadiums will be ready till 2011. Ofc there's alot of problems but for me 4+4 would be the best solution imo.
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