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Old November 18th, 2008, 12:49 AM   #701
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This is the final project for Odesa
Hey, renderings of this stadium in first post are wrong?
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Old November 18th, 2008, 03:30 AM   #702
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Hi. Yes, it was changed.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 10:36 AM   #703
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Nice update, all renderings in 1st post are correct! And am I the only one who thinks it will be the Euro ever?
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Old November 18th, 2008, 03:28 PM   #704
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No, I think so too. It's going to have the best arenas and the best, huge scale of being conducted in two large countries.

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Old November 20th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #705
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Odd as in design or construction pace?
design - hate that kind of playing with forms...
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Old November 20th, 2008, 10:47 PM   #706
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I hated it the second I saw, but now warmed up to it. Its very original and fits odesa's southern atmosphere. But I still liked the previous design more. That wave-roof was awesome.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 10:51 PM   #707
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I prefer the first design. the second one reminds me to Mönchengladbachs Borussia-Park, one of the ugliest modern stadiums in Germany.
@Burislav: did construction in Lviv really start? just as you said in one of your previous posts? and: where do you - as a ukrainian - see the most serious challenge in your preparations for Euro 2012?
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Old November 21st, 2008, 03:45 AM   #708
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I prefer the first design. the second one reminds me to Mönchengladbachs Borussia-Park, one of the ugliest modern stadiums in Germany.
@Burislav: did construction in Lviv really start? just as you said in one of your previous posts? and: where do you - as a ukrainian - see the most serious challenge in your preparations for Euro 2012?
The area is being cleared, one can debate whether it is the beginning of construction or not. But in any case, it's clear that they will build the stadium in time now, they are working in three shifts day and night.

Clearly the main obstacle is highways. Ukrainian doesn't have the money, especially now thanks to the international financial crisis, to build German-quality autobahns. Major roads will only get reconstructed. Although, on the other hand, it is not much of an obstacle as an embarrassment. Because most EU visitors will be unaccustomed to such quality of roads, however it's not like they won't be able to drive on them, lacking some modern features of motorways will not prevent anyone from getting to the destination.

The airports are all on reconstruction now and there is the largest hotel construction boom in ukrainian history, plus there will be a lot of temporary innovations to allow for any number of people to have a place to sleep (like on ships in Odessa, Kyiv, Dnipro - common practice in the world for such events). So I don't think there will be major obstacles in that.

There are no problems with stadiums. All of them are now u/c or already completed.

The main obstacle, as always in Ukraine, is slow and lazy politicians and officials that need to be threatened with losing their jobs to get them started on doing their work
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Old November 21st, 2008, 10:44 AM   #709
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And are any Ukr. threads about those airports and roads construction...? Could you give me a link?
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Old November 21st, 2008, 03:42 PM   #710
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Sure, but they are in ukrainian section only

Kharkiv airport, new terminal
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=741110

Kyiv, new terminal
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=741090

Donetsk, new terminal
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=741098

For Lviv and Odesa not enough info to have threads yet. There's just this rendering for Odesa airport, but it's unclear whether it will be realized by 2012.


Dnipro will not build a new terminal, only renovate the existing two and build a temporary-terminal for Euro 2012 which will then be dismantled after the event.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 04:06 PM   #711
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Burislav, is there any offical or unoffcial ukrainian web-site in 100% focused on Euro 2012? In English of course. Look, I think for many Poles and others concerned about Euro 2012 that's the main problem. The real and up-to-date source od information about progress in preparation in Ukraine. Let's say - get lost with renders and visualizations! For that it was a time 1,5 year ago. As you may know, I don't know to much about ukrainian SSC section, but as I see there is a significant lack of self-made pictures from constuction sites. I guess for many people that's the real proof that all staff is going in the right direction. Forget about pictures from newspapers. For me they look weird and odd - that kind of pictures may be taken at every construcion site.

Let me put something straight - I am a big fan of Ukraine in Euro 2012 but I'd like to see something real, without any propaganda stuff inside.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 04:20 PM   #712
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I've seen a couple of those web-sites, but they weren't that helpful. I prefer following specific projects at our section on this forum. There aren't many self made airport-construction updates because nobody lives near the airports besides, Kyiv terminal D started construction only a week or so ago. Kharkiv airport has some self made pics on that link I gave you, because it's close to the city and forumers can go there.

And what's wrong with newspaper pics, like this one of the new runway in Donetsk?


But this thread is for stadiums only, you can go to the specific threads I provided and ask questions there in English, I or somebody else will reply. Besides myself, most ukrainians (over 120+ members) don't visit sections outside ukrainian forum. But unlike poles, ukrainians aren't that interested in roads and airports projects, mostly skyscrapers, highrises, various buildings etc.. But some are, and they will try to help you
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 12:03 AM   #713
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please, someone give me link to the ukrainian thread about stadium in Lviv

Edit: I have some idea. What you think about "weekly summary of the constructions" (with photos) in this thread?

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Old November 22nd, 2008, 01:31 AM   #714
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I don't know about the webcam, I wish I had the URL to that myself.
This is the final project for Odesa


Capacity is supposed to be 41,386. But something always changes in Ukraine, so we'll see
Like for me It looks nice.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 11:36 PM   #715
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Polish stadium

Baltic Arena in Gdansk



Stadium in Poznan





Stadium in Warsaw





Stadium in Cracow

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Old March 8th, 2009, 07:26 AM   #716
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They are really nice!
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Video, Stadion Śląski in Chorzów, Poland

http://www.2012.org.pl/pl/miasta-gos...ultimedia.html
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Old March 28th, 2009, 11:52 AM   #718
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It's a beautiful stadium....but why will it have an athletics track?
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Old March 28th, 2009, 12:09 PM   #719
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it's not a new stadium it's just a renovation of stadium that was built in 50'.Stadium has a motorcycle speedway track but it was not in use since years.In 1973 it hosted SPEEDWAY WORLD Championship with attendance around 100,000 people - probably attendance record of motorcycle speedway.Now they want to make an athletic track at the place where is now something what was a speedway track
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DONBAS-ARENA, Donetsk Ukraine (March 2009):



















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