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Old August 8th, 2009, 01:45 PM   #981
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Old August 8th, 2009, 08:23 PM   #982
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Old August 8th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #983
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Old August 9th, 2009, 02:14 PM   #984
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Old August 10th, 2009, 09:22 PM   #985
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Wow, its good to see that they started to work on the roof
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Old August 11th, 2009, 05:03 AM   #986
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Where are the workers?
they work when you least expect them like at night
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Old August 11th, 2009, 11:09 PM   #987
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Old August 11th, 2009, 11:20 PM   #988
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For some time now it is obvious that there are problems with financing construction of the stadium in Lviv, therefore works are being conducted very slowly. Lviv is lacking money to the stadium, some bank was supposed to allow a credit but it seems, that and there are problems with it.
As a matter of fact everywhere where buildings are being built for national/city money considerable problems are appearing, even to the stadium in Kiev recently financing was being cut.
In the face of the crisis Ukraine is simply lacking money, stadium in Donetsk came into existence for private money of the owner of the club, similarly it is in Kharkiv, so there works by stadiums are proceeding efficiently.
President of Ukraine rejected the law as to provide additional financial resources to prepare for EURO 2012, because the primary bank of Ukraine don't captive additional 0.5mld € (0.5 € it very little, in the comparison what is being given for preparations in Poland, and after all and this way we have much less for doing)

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Old August 12th, 2009, 12:18 AM   #989
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Lviv or Lwów Don't use "Ponglish" names of cities
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Old August 12th, 2009, 09:03 AM   #990
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Lviv (Ukrainian: Львів L’viv, IPA: [lʲβ̞iu̯]( listen); Polish: Lwów; Russian: Львов, L'vov; German: Lemberg; Latin: Leopolis;

Let's call it Leopolis.
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For some time now it is obvious that there are problems with financing construction of the stadium in Lviv, therefore works are being conducted very slowly. Lviv is lacking money to the stadium, some bank was supposed to allow a credit but it seems, that and there are problems with it.
As a matter of fact everywhere where buildings are being built for national/city money considerable problems are appearing, even to the stadium in Kiev recently financing was being cut.
In the face of the crisis Ukraine is simply lacking money, stadium in Donetsk came into existence for private money of the owner of the club, similarly it is in Kharkiv, so there works by stadiums are proceeding efficiently.
President of Ukraine rejected the law as to provide additional financial resources to prepare for EURO 2012, because the primary bank of Ukraine don't captive additional 0.5mld € (0.5 € it very little, in the comparison what is being given for preparations in Poland, and after all and this way we have much less for doing)
Lviv's stadium is being built with private funds. You are correct however on there not being enough funds when it comes to government financed projects. But the sole reason for that is corruption. Whenever they budget something out, half the money goes missing. So they always ask for more. In this case Yuschenko rejected the request, but I have a feeling it was more for political reasons then anything else, as currently Yuschenko pretty much has no power, with Yanukovich and Tymoshenko battling it out to pick up the controlling pieces. If anyone here wants to know just how messed up the government is in Ukraine, just ask one of the Ukrainian posters on the last time the Parlament was in session.

Government money is needed for infrastructure (airports, roads, hotels and transit) in Lviv, Kharkiv and Donetsk. And as much as everyone wants to see Euro2012, the politicians are not willing to give it up without a cutback. Bottom line is this, if the UEFA deadline is stern, Poland is going to hold the Euros on it's own. And as a Ukrainian it pains me to say this, but this is the likely outcome.
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Old August 12th, 2009, 10:39 PM   #993
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Yuschenko rejected the request, but I have a feeling it was more for political reasons then anything else, as currently Yuschenko pretty much has no power
F***in' US puppet Ushenko know that people will not elect him (with 2% rating currently) in January 2010, so he is doing all to not to let Ukraine to host EURO 2012, creating problems in all economic, political and social spheres. I wished to travel in Donetsk on one of the matches, but this ugly nazi reptilian...pfff...
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He can only be right - when the GDP of the country is falling about 20 % it is not a time to give extra money for preparations for the Euro, and rather than that the time for saving the economy falling down. As a matter of fact in the current economic state of Ukraine building road, railways, hotels and everything other from budget of cities/national is science fiction. And the country with such a weak economy won't draft foreign exchange investors in in the period of the crisis.
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He can only be right - when the GDP of the country is falling about 20 % it is not a time to give extra money for preparations for the Euro, and rather than that the time for saving the economy falling down. As a matter of fact in the current economic state of Ukraine building road, railways, hotels and everything other from budget of cities/national is science fiction. And the country with such a weak economy won't draft foreign exchange investors in in the period of the crisis.
GDP falling and "weak" economy is a direct result of Ushenko's economic policy for last 5 years. There were many opinions of respected politics in Ukraine that devaluation of grivna was one of his main purpose, one of the steps in ruining Ukrainian economic. It's not a secret that Ushenko is working for IMF and Ukraine is just a one of many countries, where US puppets ruining economic and then taking IMF credits under very hard conditions. Find "economic hunter John Perkins". There are more than 2,5 trillions of "paper dollars" (which cost 0$, nothing, paper) and US need more and more countries to circulate these papers giving 0$ and taking country's natural resources (as it was constantly in S.America in XX century). This is one of the reasons of Iraq war, except many others - new territories for circulating these paper dollars and stealing country's resources. If you want to know aboit it better, find info about "Federal Reserve" and what it is really doing.
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Please stop spam here about politics, it's thread about EURO 2012.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 02:35 PM   #998
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I explained the reasons why Ukraine have so bad preparations for EURO. Politics and EURO preparations have very strong connection in Ukraine.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 03:50 PM   #999
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I explained the reasons why Ukraine have so bad preparations for EURO. Politics and EURO preparations have very strong connection in Ukraine.
I think the situation is much more complex than you laid out. Of course, it is always easy to blame one person (puppet Yushenko) or Americans, but I think it is not much about one man's evil agenda, but rather years of society's soviet training in corruption, jobbery, lack of planning and general inertia.

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Well, 20 years ago Poland had also had "US puppets" taking over ruined post-soviet economy, and "taking IMF credits under very hard conditions". Today's Poles are somehow much, much better off: they build stadiums, they build roads, they build hotels and airports (and, apparently, it is not only for EU money). This is the only European country that has not entered global recession. And this is the country that may eventually have to take responsibility for organizing all euro2012 because its Ukrainian counterpart failed to live up to the challenge. In my view it is becoming clearer and clearer as the UEFA deadline approaches.

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Old August 13th, 2009, 05:23 PM   #1000
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