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Old November 2nd, 2011, 10:54 PM   #1861
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Which tragedy?
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But if you start messing and try to smear Poland, you can hear something in return. Simple as that.
So the first video you have so much hurt?
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Because they promised to Platini...
BTW this comment offends Ukrainians

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Old November 2nd, 2011, 10:57 PM   #1862
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Aint it our tournement? Yes having an opening in an unfinished stadium is unwise. Yes, having a water sprouting suddenly during a football match is also wrong (but that's why you have a few months to test out the stadium, to Iron out the hip-cups).

The point is that all stadiums will have issues, DURRING EURO, if there not tested out properly before euro. That includes both Polish and Ukrainian Stadium.

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Showing a plane's emergincy landing doesn't show that theres a problem with a countries airport (only a fool would think that). It shows that there is a problem with Boeing's Planes alltogether

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Theres no point of arguing which country is worse or better that doesnt matter. What matters is that the euro will be a success, and be a wonderful chance for both our countries to advertise themself, there history and inprove there tourism, and prove to be an attractive area for investors.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 11:00 PM   #1863
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Its not that post in isolation and you know it...
During the stay at this forum, I saw many times a bad attitude to the Ukrainians from the Poles, especially in 2009-2010 when in the country was a crisis and wrote what would be taken away Euro from Ukraine.

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Old November 2nd, 2011, 11:23 PM   #1864
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POLSKA GOLA,

During the stay at this forum, I saw many times a bad attitude to the Ukrainians from the Poles, especially in 2009-2010 when in the country was a crisis and wrote what would be taken away Euro from Ukraine.
I think both countries were doing the same. Media trying to get hits and other crap. Fuelled by greediness, that maybe, maybe they will have the Euro all to them self.

Both countries presumed that they might had enough stadiums ,Ironically enough the backup plan was that Germany would had been invited xD
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 11:45 PM   #1865
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 11:46 PM   #1866
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Well, mainly due to the pilot's skills, it wasn't a tragedy, was it?

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During the stay at this forum, I saw many times a bad attitude to the Ukrainians from the Poles, especially in 2009-2010 when in the country was a crisis and wrote what would be taken away Euro from Ukraine.
It's good you've now expressed that. If I were to interpret the attitude of those Polish forumers, it could've been someone's stupidity, arrogance or maybe the opportunity for a little 'virtual' revenge for OUN-UPA massacres in Wołyń (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacr...es_in_Volhynia) and Eastern Galicja in 1943-44, which still seems to be an unhealed wound between our nations (due to differences in the evaluation/perception of those events).
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 12:22 AM   #1867
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 01:19 AM   #1868
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...This thread is run by people that have nothing else to do.. except to take the piss out of eachother...
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 06:05 AM   #1869
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...This thread is run by people that have nothing else to do.. except to take the piss out of eachother...
Pretty much. Although Harisson is right to a certain degree, there were and still are a few Polish posters who have nothing but negative comments about Ukraine. Not all, but there are some.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 01:27 PM   #1870
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Harisson convinced me with his videos. Nevermind the highways, the railway, the hotels and other infrastructure. Because of the incident with the sprinklers in Gdansk and the gear up landing in Warsaw you can now definitely say - Ukraine is much more better prepared for the EURO than Poland. Well done Ukraine!
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 01:42 PM   #1871
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Harisson convinced me with his videos. Nevermind the highways, the railway, the hotels and other infrastructure. Because of the incident with the sprinklers in Gdansk and the gear up landing in Warsaw you can now definitely say - Ukraine is much more better prepared for the EURO than Poland. Well done Ukraine!
If the Poles always show negative relative to the Ukraine, then why Ukrainians couldn't also refer to the Poles?
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 02:04 PM   #1872
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I have nothing against it. But you make yourself funny if you show these not much meaning incidents and try to compare them with REAL problems and lack of infrastructure in the Ukraine.

Can you tell me what type of airplanes does the ukrainian air line fly and why should they be safer than the polish Boeings?
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 02:13 PM   #1873
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I have nothing against it. But you make yourself funny if you show these not much meaning incidents and try to compare them with REAL problems and lack of infrastructure in the Ukraine.
Polish infrastructure of EU money

Ukraine builds infrastructure alone, but Poland has received $ 40 billion (!!!) from EU + Poland is 2-3 times richer than Ukraine!


Ukraine also has good infrastructure:
Highways:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=332224
Railways:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1407502
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=325447
Airports in host cities:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...192161&page=16
Hotels in host cities:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=806884
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=829640
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=829632
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=806996

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Old November 3rd, 2011, 02:38 PM   #1874
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So what? And this is the reason to search out some strange accidents and try to show them as a proof for a bad organisation in Poland?

Besides, as for the incident in Warsaw: everyone says this landing is a proof for very high security standards and organisation system.
Everything was perfectly prepared for a gear-up-landing: the start lane, the fire and medical cars, evacuation procedures and so on...
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 02:45 PM   #1875
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So what? And this is the reason to search out some strange accidents and try to show them as a proof for a bad organisation in Poland?
I replied you earlier
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 03:32 PM   #1876
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Stop fighting, guys The discussion is pointless and some arguments are just an assault on logic on both sides. The Euro event is common and we are both responsible for it being a success. Poining at each-others drawbacks with victourious attitude is just counterproductive.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 04:26 PM   #1877
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Well, mainly due to the pilot's skills, it wasn't a tragedy, was it?

a little 'virtual' revenge for OUN-UPA massacres in Wołyń (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacr...es_in_Volhynia) and Eastern Galicja in 1943-44
We don't worries about the Chopin Airport in Warsaw. It's an international airport and we sure that it will be operating very well. Please also don't worry about Ukrainian infrastructure and don't touch the Volyn tragedy where polish was started (In the village of Biskupychy Verkhni (Nekhvoroshchi) 11 murdered Ukrainians (including a 3 year old girl and a 95 year old grandmother) which happened May 20, 1943). Please, stop this politic discussion!
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 04:50 PM   #1878
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We don't worries about the Chopin Airport in Warsaw. It's an international airport and we sure that it will be operating very well. Please also don't worry about Ukrainian infrastructure and don't touch the Volyn tragedy where polish was started (In the village of Biskupychy Verkhni (Nekhvoroshchi) 11 murdered Ukrainians (including a 3 year old girl and a 95 year old grandmother) which happened May 20, 1943). Please, stop this politic discussion!

If anyone has deserved for a permanent ban, it's you, fascist. Your stupidness is just hard to describe. I hope other Ukrainians users are ashamed of you. Your lies are clear provocation against Polish people.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 08:33 PM   #1879
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Not sure if tickets have gone on sale as all the teams have not been set, but if they have, how are ticket sales looking? Should it be expected that most matches will sellout? Or at least come close?
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 09:25 PM   #1880
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Dear Poles and Ukrainians who quit the bid is being better at being worse. Such things always happening, unfortunately, among the various States and happen all the time. And this is only the consequence that we think of myself badly and to no good leads.

The truth is that we are neighbors and now Co-host one big event and between us regardless of nationality, culture and customs together we want to organize the best event so that the whole world talked about it in good words. Leave stories, leave the past, leave prejudices, divisions, differences. Let us be good neighbors, let us be good supporters, let us be good hosts, let's be a team here in Poland and here in Ukraine. Kibicujmy and rywalizujmy among themselves, but in sports, but let us praise won clapping loser. Let's show our people that stand on a lot that even Poland and Ukraine has not perished. Let us be open to visiting supporters, let them that we are all the same. Remember the most important is that fans who have come back to their countries when the tournament comes to an end had a very good impression of Euro 2012 with Ukraine and Poland, and that has not once wanted to come back.
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