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Old September 26th, 2008, 11:32 PM   #161
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Unfortunatelly the drawings I had got destroyed by the recent Atlantis fire.
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Old October 1st, 2008, 07:03 PM   #162
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For real? By who?
http://www.thenational.ae/article/20...E/8525129/1119
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Old October 1st, 2008, 07:39 PM   #163
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 08:18 AM   #164
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Awesome Design!

So please build this! I would love to watch it grow!
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 08:20 AM   #165
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The other 2 proposals?

Does anyone have more information on the other 2 proposals?
However, I wish and hope this supertall becomes a reality!
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Old October 9th, 2008, 08:56 AM   #166
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Super bloody dooper !!!
If anyone's guna do it, twill be them !!!

Go Go Go !!!
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Old October 9th, 2008, 03:04 PM   #167
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International Newspaper "The National".

Graphic: The proposed Dubai City tower!


link: http://www.thenational.ae/article/20...200987219/1119


But the biggest of them all is the as yet unannounced Dubai City Tower – which is said to be funded by Meraas, the private equity venture of Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid, Vice President of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai – the highlight of which will be a 2.41km high tower, which architectural experts are already calling “buildable”.

Until the money stops flowing, the biggest, longest, fastest and highest are all records that Dubai will continue to chase forever – forever challenging ambition, forever challenging the laws of gravity and forever challenging themselves. As Mohammed Zaal, the chief operating officer of the region’s largest plant nursery with 800 never-before-grown species in the Middle East, says of his Dh15bn venture set in the sandlands: “It’s a city built in the desert, where water is so rare. It’s a plan to create a new topography and to bring a new definition to Dubai.”
http://thenational.ae/article/200810.../NATIONAL.html





Dubai - Stretching its six intertwining building components into a tower 2.4 kilometres high, Dubai City Tower is expected to be the latest architectural vision to capture the attention of citizens.

The ‘Vertical City’, as it is described, is an architect’s proposal that began circulating in emails and at a skycraper forum last week, but its origins are yet to be determined.

The professional project pitch details 400 habitable stories, topped by a 400m energy-producing spire, making it 2.4km high.

By comparison, Emaar’s Burj Dubai is largely predicted to be around 800m high and 160 floors.

A “mile-high tower” in Jeddah has been planned by Kingdom Holdings, while Nakheel is building Al Burj, which, according to project sources, will have a final height of 1.28km, although the developer is keeping the details under wraps.

But neither an architect nor a developer detailed on the plans for the Dubai City Tower. Major developers Emaar, Nakheel, Dubai Properties and Damac categorically denied to Khaleej Times any involvement or awareness of the project.

However, the proposal of such an engineering feat is indicative of the environment of possibilities Dubai has created for tall towers, according to Steven Oehme, Regional Director of Value Management and Sustainability at Hyder Consulting Middle East.

“It is certainly possible,” Oehme said. “You can’t just use today’s technology, but it can be planned and the possibilities are there. Fifteen years ago, there was nothing even half the height of the Burj Dubai.”

The time frame from drawing board to construction and completion for such developments, in this case termed a super-tall skyscraper, often banks on future technologies.

A “Mega-city Pyramid” proposed for Tokyo Bay in Japan needs a structure of incredibly strong, light materials still being developed.

While Burj Dubai is expected to be completed in September 2009, five years after the construction started, the one-kilometre-high tower Mubarak Al Kabir in Kuwait is estimated to take 25 years to complete since its announcement was made last year.

Oehme said the flurry of architect proposals, and buildings under construction, could speed up technology and encourage more investment in tall towers.

“People didn’t really see the significance of building that tall,” he said.

“There wasn’t an environment that supported a building that tall. The Petronas Towers in Malaysia changed all that.”

They held the mantle for nearly a decade.”

Now, in the Gulf region, Burj Dubai is a year from completion. Khaleej Times has learnt Al Burj plans are being finalised and recently Timelinks announced plans for the Ziggurat, a 1.2-kilometre-high pyramid city to house one million people.

Oehme said the feasibility of a project like Dubai City Tower was highly technical and wondered how many of the proposals would materialise.

“It’s not just a matter of scaling things up. Every factor has to be considered. In ten years there could be two or three tall towers in the region or there could be 20 or 30. But now, our understanding of tall towers is enormous,” Oehme said.

Via: Khaleej Times
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Old October 9th, 2008, 07:42 PM   #168
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Hey, lets play the circular game! Here's how it works: 1: Someone comes up with a vision of a 2.4 KM tower. 2: Someone posts it here on skyscrapercity. 3: Architecture journalists, who always come to skyscrapercity to find out what's going on see the posts and then write articles about it. 4: Members of skyscrapercity read the articles and say "See? It's a real project!"

It's pretty obvious that all of the "news" in the above article was lifted from this thread.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 11:48 AM   #169
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What does it mean Burj Dubai after reaching the 693 meter mark in the diagram ?
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Old October 10th, 2008, 12:05 PM   #170
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http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/...492e5f2e7.aspx

2.4km tower plan not yet on tallest buildings list


David Scott, Chairman for the CTBUH and Principal at Arup. (PATRICK CASTILLO)





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Sona Nambiar on Thursday, October 09, 2008

The 2.4km building image, which is the next contender of the tallest building in the world has been circulated widely but is not yet on the Council for Tall Buildings and Urban Habitats (CTBUH) list, said the chairman.

"I don't think anyone has owned up to any building taller than Nakheel at present but I would not be surprised. There are always people who are dreaming but nobody has yet said that we plan to build that," said David Scott, Chairman for the CTBUH and Principal at Arup. "I got copied by five different people. I know the people who are involved but I am obliged to keep it a secret."

It is when a developer announces plans to build a tall building that the CTBUH starts to take note of the project. "We do not give them any real credibility till then. I know that there are other developers looking at other ideas," he said. "Certainly, the tallest building right now with planned construction right now is Nakheel."

Kingdom Holding in Saudi have made no formal announcement yet, he said though there have been media reports.

"I think that other people will consider more than a kilometre. How tall can one go? It is more a question of money and determination and while the technical aspects are challenging, it is not insurmountable," said Scott. "What I have seen is all unusual and different at Cityscape. It is my first time and it is very exciting to see the whole community enthusiastic in the Middle East."

According to him, Burj Dubai is doing a good job of spreading their knowledge on building a tall building. Besides, people do not design buildings for war, he said. "A tall building is a statement of your willingness to seek a peaceful future and appear vulnerable. Burj Dubai happened after 9/11. It was still saying that we wanted to do that."

Tall buildings also make economic sense. Scott said Adrian Smith, the designer for Burj Dubai explained at the World Architecture Congress, held at Cityscape that the perimeter of Burj Dubai paid for the building.

"People are concerned about issues in terms of fire-fighting, evacuation scenarios, blast protection and so on," said Scott. "Earthquake design is not an issue. The Council has updated the design codes for complex buildings because codes were not designed for such buildings and we would advice to think of first principles, while designing. But I must say, that this is applicable for areas with severe seismic activity, not Dubai."
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Old October 10th, 2008, 01:17 PM   #171
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As this building is just pure fantasy,never to be built,why is there such an active thread on it?
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Old October 10th, 2008, 01:30 PM   #172
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Old October 11th, 2008, 04:59 PM   #173
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Ok, so take this bit of information completely as speculation ok. My friend who works in IT has been working on projects with Meraas recently and he mentioned that he was given a presentation today about a weird 2.4 km tower being planned by them close to the Sea. I showed him photo's of the tower posted in this thread and he mentioned that it looked nothing like this.

From this, all i can gather is that Meraas indeed is working on a 2.4km structure and is still in the process of finalizing design (duh!) and the one's that we have already seen are one of the potential designs.

Still, the fact that plans for such a tower does exist is simply phenomenal.
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Old October 11th, 2008, 05:08 PM   #174
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For which city?
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Old October 11th, 2008, 05:14 PM   #175
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Errr, Dubai. Who else would have the balls to do this?
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Old October 11th, 2008, 05:20 PM   #176
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Abu Dhabi might have?

I get the feeling that Meraas are working backwards by making a design and vision and then trying to sell it to someone rather than being commisioned to do it.
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Old October 11th, 2008, 08:38 PM   #177
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Its Meraas. Why would they do anything in Abu Dhabi? Besides, the presentation was for a project in Dubai.
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Old October 12th, 2008, 05:22 AM   #178
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Point taken, that it was for something in Dubai, but, Abu Dhabi might try something completely insane *cough*this monster*cough* simply as an attempt to not be completely outshone and (very literally) overshadowed by Dubai.
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Old October 13th, 2008, 10:08 AM   #179
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I read something that this project was competing againts the Jumeirah Gardens proposal and that Adiran Smith Firm with the 4 Supertalls (AC Towers, EP09, EP15 and EP07) won the bid. So doesn't that mean this project is now scraped?
I hope I am wrong or they will propose it again at Cityscape2009 or something.
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Old October 13th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #180
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Just a vision for now.


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