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Old January 12th, 2008, 05:16 AM   #2341
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Old January 12th, 2008, 06:04 AM   #2342
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Hong Kong Air Cargo Terminals 2007 Throughput +2.7% To Record
10 January 2008

HONG KONG (Dow Jones)--Hong Kong Air Cargo Terminals Ltd. said Friday its throughput rose 2.7% to a record in 2007, as rises in exports and transshipments outweighed declining import volume.

Hactl, which handles about 80% of air cargo passing through Hong Kong International Airport, said in a statement it handled 2.63 million metric tons of cargo in 2007.

Export volume last year rose 2.9% to 1.48 million tons and transshipment volume jumped 8.3% to 460,670 tons, but import volume fell 1% to 689,139 tons, the statement said.

Year-earlier figures weren't provided.

In December, Hactl handled 238,689 tons of cargo, 3% more than the same month in 2006.

Export volume grew 3.8% to 133,584 tons, transshipment volume rose 8.8% to 41,453 tons while import volume declined 2% to 63,652 tons, it said.

Hactl is jointly owned by Swire Group, Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. (0293.HK), Jardine Pacific Ltd., Wharf (Holdings) Ltd. (0004.HK), Hutchison International Port Holdings Ltd., China National Aviation Corp., and Citic Pacific Ltd. (CTPCY)
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Old January 13th, 2008, 07:06 AM   #2343
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Old January 13th, 2008, 12:46 PM   #2344
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Why didn't they build T2 with gates as well? In this case, why airlines are 'moving operations' to T2 when all flights are still to be boarded at T1? Will T2 have gates in the future or an all-new building T3 with gates is to be built?
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Old January 13th, 2008, 04:05 PM   #2345
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Why didn't they build T2 with gates as well? In this case, why airlines are 'moving operations' to T2 when all flights are still to be boarded at T1? Will T2 have gates in the future or an all-new building T3 with gates is to be built?
The problem isn't with the lack of gates, but rather too many people are crowding into T1, and more check-in desks are needed. T2 is only for check-in and facilities, not aircraft boarding.
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Old January 13th, 2008, 05:46 PM   #2346
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If you look at the master plan, what you call T3 is the X-shape building in the middle of the airport between two runways. It has no direct easy connection with the ground transportation system to/from the city. It'll be purely a gate terminal and accessed from T1. So, T2 isn't just an expansion of T1 to accommodate the growth of check-in passenger, but also to prepare for the future check-in need of a new boarding terminal.
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If you look at the master plan, what you call T3 is the X-shape building in the middle of the airport between two runways. It has no direct easy connection with the ground transportation system to/from the city. It'll be purely a gate terminal and accessed from T1. So, T2 isn't just an expansion of T1 to accommodate the growth of check-in passenger, but also to prepare for the future check-in need of a new boarding terminal.
T2 though isn't part of the original masterplan. I saw the concept several years back and it didn't have the T2 design. And it may take several years before they build T3
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Old January 15th, 2008, 05:22 AM   #2348
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T2 though isn't part of the original masterplan. I saw the concept several years back and it didn't have the T2 design. And it may take several years before they build T3
T3 is not expected to be built any time soon. The issue right now is whether the existing 2 runways can cope with growth. With T2 now in operation, passenger handling is no longer an issue, but aircraft movements is now the other problem.
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Old January 15th, 2008, 02:14 PM   #2350
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DRAGONAIR TO LAUNCH NEW SERVICE TO BANGALORE, INDIA
15 January 2008


Dragonair today announced that it will fly passengers to India for the first time in May when it launches a new service to Bangalore, a major economic hub that in recent years has become the technology capital of India.

The service to Bangalore will commence on May 1, 2008 with daily flights operated by A330-300 aircraft. The launch of the destination will open up new opportunities for people travelling between Hong Kong and the thriving southern region of India.

"We are excited to be able to announce our entry into the huge Indian market. This is a very important step for Dragonair and a major development in Hong Kong’s role as a leading international aviation hub," said Dragonair Chief Executive Officer Kenny Tang.

"With a daily service to and from Bangalore we can use Hong Kong’s hub advantage to connect travellers onto Dragonair’s extensive network of destinations in Mainland China as well as the international network of our sister airline Cathay Pacific."

Bangalore will be the seventh new destination to be launched since Dragonair became part of the Cathay Pacific Group in September 2006. In the past year the airline has also launched scheduled services to Phuket, Busan, Fukuoka, Sendai and Kathmandu, and a daily charter service to Taichung in Taiwan.
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Old January 16th, 2008, 01:33 AM   #2351
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Old January 17th, 2008, 06:09 AM   #2352
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Surge in thefts at HK airport worries police
Stealing at Chek Lap Kok is 'major concern'; travellers told to look out

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Thefts at Hong Kong's airport have nearly doubled in a year, and overall crime has risen by half. Police say thefts from travellers are now a major concern.

Instances of theft jumped from 352 in 2005 to 677 last year, police figures obtained by the Sunday Morning Post show.

There were nine rapes or indecent assaults at or around the airport on Lantau, up from five in 2005, and 21 serious assaults. Airport police also dealt with 31 instances of fraud or forgery. The figures are the most recent available.

Billy Cheng Tak-sun, chief inspector in charge of operations for the airport district, said tackling the jump in thefts had been made a priority.

The only issue at the airport to which police now attach higher importance is aviation security, which involves combating crimes such as terrorism.

"Theft of baggage and personal belongings is a major concern," Chief Inspector Cheng said.

Police have not ruled out an organised syndicate operating out of the airport, but said much of the crime appears to be opportunist.

Overall crime at the airport increased from 721 incidents in 2005 to 1,075 in 2006, a jump of 49 per cent. The rise compares with a year-on-year jump of 9.1 per cent in passenger traffic, to 44.4 million, last year. The crime wave appears to have continued this year.

Park Kyung-jin, a South Korean marketing executive based in Hong Kong, lost her laptop computer, passport, Hong Kong identification card, watch and two mobile phones in a snatch and grab incident at Chek Lap Kok a month ago.

Ms Park, who had paused upon entering the arrivals hall to greet a friend, estimates the robbery cost her US$9,000.

"I said, 'Hi' for maybe five seconds, and my bag was gone," she said. "My friend ran after him, and I went to the police, but their reaction was, 'We will have to fill in a report'."

Ms Park said police told her that crimes were often committed at the airport.

"They said the airport is not that safe. I found that quite surprising because you always think of Hong Kong as such a safe place," she said.

Chief Inspector Cheng said the officers who dealt with Ms Park's case should not have told her that crimes happened regularly at the airport.

The chief inspector said the majority of crimes at Chek Lap Kok happened inside the terminals or close to the entrances to the terminals.

Most of the thefts happened in the public areas rather than at the baggage carousels.

"Most of the time, people who come to the airport are focusing on other activities, not focusing wholly on their personal belongings," he said.

Chief Inspector Cheng said passengers may not always be paying sufficient attention to their belongings.

"They could be having a sip of coffee or using the internet and not really considering the valuable items they have with them," the chief inspector said. "It's all common sense, really. You're carrying a lot of valuables at the airport, so you should be more vigilant."

Chief Inspector Cheng said there could be many reasons behind the increase in crime at the airport, and he would not want to speculate.

However, he said the rise could be explained in part at least by the rise in passenger traffic through Chek Lap Kok in the past few years.
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T2 though isn't part of the original masterplan. I saw the concept several years back and it didn't have the T2 design. And it may take several years before they build T3
That's what I thought... The main terminal was built in a modular design that could be added on to the sides for additional check-in counters as the amount of gates and concourse expanded. I believe it had already been done [one additional "hump" per side] since opening. Perhaps T2 was a better idea, keeping passengers closer to the choo choo. It would be quite a hike from the ends of the main terminal if it were expanded even further.
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That's what I thought... The main terminal was built in a modular design that could be added on to the sides for additional check-in counters as the amount of gates and concourse expanded. I believe it had already been done [one additional "hump" per side] since opening. Perhaps T2 was a better idea, keeping passengers closer to the choo choo. It would be quite a hike from the ends of the main terminal if it were expanded even further.
The location of T2 is idea since its close to the Airport Express and other public transpo. But T1 has the automated people mover as well. That can be a solution if expansion was planned that way
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The location of T2 is idea since its close to the Airport Express and other public transpo. But T1 has the automated people mover as well. That can be a solution if expansion was planned that way
The people mover has been extended to T2 as well.
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January 17, 2008

HK-Shenzhen airports rail link under study


A consultancy will be commissioned to conduct a feasibility study on a rail link between Hong Kong International Airport and Shenzhen Airport.



Speaking after the first meeting of the task force on airport cooperation between Hong Kong and Shenzhen today, Secretary for Transport & Housing Eva Cheng said the study, to be completed within 2008, will cover the link's cost effectiveness and its alignment.



The task force also agreed to set up two expert groups. One group will look at the rail link while the other will study the business co-operation between the two airports.



She said it is too early to predict the rail link's construction cost because it involves many factors including the alignment and the number of stations. It is estimated that the journey time will be about 20 minutes.



Shenzhen Municipal Government Vice Mayor Zhang Siping said good progress was made at today's meeting, adding the two Governments attach great importance to the issue and will do their best to promote the two airports' co-operation.
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We need to connect HKIA with Guangzhou by high speed rail. Connecting to Shenzhen airport does wonders for them but not the other way around. Hong Kong Airlines and Dragonair are probably very worried right now.
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Old January 17th, 2008, 04:07 PM   #2358
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We need to connect HKIA with Guangzhou by high speed rail. Connecting to Shenzhen airport does wonders for them but not the other way around. Hong Kong Airlines and Dragonair are probably very worried right now.
Shenzhen airport has a lot more flights inside mainland China, big, small and tiny airports, providing a greater connection internally. On the other hands, HKIA has a lot more international flights.

By teaming up the two airports, it will cover both internationally and nationally. Plus it will put HKIA and Shenzhen more competitive with Guangzhou in long term. It is also possible to stop the airports' train at SZ train station with connection to the HK<>GZ high speed as well. I think it will do good to both, not just SZ. I do see it will bring more benefits to SZ then HK, but without this plan, it can be a lose-lose situation for both airports rather than a win-win.

HK Airlines and Dragonair can be worried. Even they are approved to operate more flights in and out of more airports in the mainland and HKIA, but without extra capacity at HKIA's runway and in the sky over PRD, they are still restricted to operate the number of flights. Maybe in long term, they can use Shenzhen as a destination besides HK as well.
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Shenzhen airport has a lot more flights inside mainland China, big, small and tiny airports, providing a greater connection internally. On the other hands, HKIA has a lot more international flights.

By teaming up the two airports, it will cover both internationally and nationally. Plus it will put HKIA and Shenzhen more competitive with Guangzhou in long term. It is also possible to stop the airports' train at SZ train station with connection to the HK<>GZ high speed as well. I think it will do good to both, not just SZ. I do see it will bring more benefits to SZ then HK, but without this plan, it can be a lose-lose situation for both airports rather than a win-win.

HK Airlines and Dragonair can be worried. Even they are approved to operate more flights in and out of more airports in the mainland and HKIA, but without extra capacity at HKIA's runway and in the sky over PRD, they are still restricted to operate the number of flights. Maybe in long term, they can use Shenzhen as a destination besides HK as well.
Actually, the latest aviation pact between HK and China is supposed to plug the gaps and increase connectivity to secondary cities, which will see flight restrictions dropped entirely. Originally it was supposed to be great for the upstart regional carriers such as Hong Kong Airlines and Hong Kong Express, but a railway will successfully become a barrier to entry as it is far cheaper to fly out of Shenzhen. I don't think this will be beneficial to HK's aviation development in the long run, as it will separate the international flights to hub out of HK but mainland-bound flights to hub out of Shenzhen. Hong Kongers will ultimately lose. Promoting airport transfers will cause great inconvenience to travellers.

Guangzhou has a huge population base. They need a major international and domestic aviation hub. The demand is there to have passengers fly nonstop direct straight from there rather than come to Hong Kong for flights out of the country. We should not expect this unique advantage to last. In fact, HK can successfully maintain its lead over Guangzhou by leveraging our existing network and strong international carriers to entice more tourists to fly to HK and use HK as a stepping stone to China, not splitting the aviation market between 2 airports. The CX-KA deal was supposed to strengthen those synergies.

At this point the 3rd runway is not needed. Planners are sounding the alarm noting it's going to be a long-term issue, but slots and gate space is not a problem at HKIA at the moment, hence HK carriers can definitely expand to a significant number of mainland destinations without problems.

In fact, enhancing HK's aviation synergies can easily be achieved by connecting HKIA with the mainland HSR network with a direct line to Guangzhou, not Shenzhen airport.
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Aviation policies have been loosening to open up the secondary cities for HK carriers; this of course will help to increase the possibility of more flights in and out of the mainland and HK. But one of the big problems is the PRD military reserved air space is limiting the air capacity that the civil airports can handle for civil aviation. This restriction is not going to be loosened in foreseen years. The already small air space over PRD is shared by HKIA, Macau, Shenzhen, GZ and some other smaller airport in the region. There isn't much for each airport to begin with; the additional military restriction has put the capacity comes forward a lot earlier. The outcome is even if the airports are capable to handle more flights, but the sky can't; and this is what we are experience today. Linking two airports together directly is one possible way to maximize the number of destinations.

HKIA can handle 59 flights per hour at the maximum with two runways operating at the same time. It is less than what the demand sometime. The third runway will be needed in order to handle more flights, (or/and hopefully there will be more air space.) With numerous numbers of destinations in mainland China, including primary, secondary, tertiary and other smaller destinations, HKIA alone can’t take everything. It is more beneficial for HKIA to focus internationally and, primary and secondary destinations in mainland; SZ will focus nationally with flights to tertiary and others airports in additional to the primary and secondary.

The crowded terminal and the near fully utilized boarding gates at HKIA aren’t a very big problem. HKIA has room to build an addition terminal to have more gate and boarding facility. It's in the master plan, and it's going to be built very soon. When it’s done, the relief will come.

The rail between two airports can also help to capture those travelers in HKIA and SZ going to/from secondary or tertiary destination that would have flown to/from other major aviation hubs in China for the connection besides just GZ.

I do agree if the rail is only connecting the two airports won’t be sustainable. But it’s all possible to have a stop at SZ train station for a transfer train to GZ or other destination as well. It’s also possible to have services between both SZ airports and GZ as well if this airport rail will be built to HSR standard.

The bottom line is, the airport rail will bring benefits to the two airports from my point of view; but at the same time, it is still necessary to continue to increase the number of destinations that HKIA can offer.
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