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Old January 31st, 2013, 06:16 PM   #4201
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A fourth parallel runway? With that, how many more aircraft movements do you sense can HKG handle, and would that also translate to yet another passenger terminal expansion to keep up with future demand? It looks like Hong Kong will continue its reign as a major hub for Asia if that path is pursued...
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Old January 31st, 2013, 06:25 PM   #4202
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Old January 31st, 2013, 06:30 PM   #4203
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That much? Whoa... I wonder how many planes per hour would that translate to... If that's the case, even more passenger and cargo flights will flock to HKG then in the process.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 06:47 PM   #4204
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A fourth parallel runway? With that, how many more aircraft movements do you sense can HKG handle, and would that also translate to yet another passenger terminal expansion to keep up with future demand? It looks like Hong Kong will continue its reign as a major hub for Asia if that path is pursued...
Well, given the 3rd runway isn't even built yet, the 4th one is just very long-term planning at this point.

There is plenty of room on the airport island for terminal expansion. In fact, the shovels are already in the ground for a new satellite concourse west of the current terminal.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 06:50 PM   #4205
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I see. So the next thing is: will there be a midfield terminal for HKG? If so, will it be used for all airlines operating currently at the airport? I remember that there is a Terminal 2, but it is only for check in... And there are several new gates (numbered in the 500s) that are used for narrow-bodied aircraft.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 07:06 PM   #4206
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I see. So the next thing is: will there be a midfield terminal for HKG? If so, will it be used for all airlines operating currently at the airport? I remember that there is a Terminal 2, but it is only for check in... And there are several new gates (numbered in the 500s) that are used for narrow-bodied aircraft.
Here is the grand plan with the 3rd runway : http://www.threerunwaysystem.com/en/...yout_plan.aspx
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Old January 31st, 2013, 07:29 PM   #4207
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That airport layout makes me wanna ask several questions:

• With the three new midfield terminals, how many total boarding gates will be operational once the new complex is built?
• I suspect that there will be a brand new automated people mover, but will its current APM be extended even further to serve the brand new terminals, or will a new one be built from scratch?
• Compared with current capacity, how much more passengers and freight can HKG handle once the improvements are made? Plus, will that signal even more flight opportunities in the process in terms of passenger connectivity?
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Old February 1st, 2013, 08:37 AM   #4208
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That airport layout makes me wanna ask several questions:

• With the three new midfield terminals, how many total boarding gates will be operational once the new complex is built?
• I suspect that there will be a brand new automated people mover, but will its current APM be extended even further to serve the brand new terminals, or will a new one be built from scratch?
• Compared with current capacity, how much more passengers and freight can HKG handle once the improvements are made? Plus, will that signal even more flight opportunities in the process in terms of passenger connectivity?
I can answer the 2nd one right off the bat - the current people mover will be extended to the new infield terminal. As for the increased capacity, I need to dig up more info and get back to you.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 09:09 AM   #4209
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That much? Whoa... I wonder how many planes per hour would that translate to... If that's the case, even more passenger and cargo flights will flock to HKG then in the process.
i believe the current capacity of HKG is around 60-70 movements per hour (depending on the configuration)... from a study, 3 runway operations would increase the potential capacity to around 100 to 105 per hour... with 4 runways that could be up to 120 to 130 per hour which would translate to around 1 to 1.1 million per year as YU-AMC has said... obviously different factors must be taken into account such as separation, modes of the operation, runway crossings etc...

as it is, the airspace in and around Hong Kong (heck, i read that much of China's airspace is complex) is already complex and adding a third runway only adds to that complexity, especially with missed approach procedures and breakout maneuvers... can't imagine how complicated everything would be once you have 4 runways...

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Old February 1st, 2013, 09:19 AM   #4210
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i believe the current capacity of HKG is around 60-70 movements per hour (depending on the configuration)... from a study, 3 runway operations would increase the potential capacity to around 100 to 105 per hour... with 4 runways that could be up to 120 to 130 per hour which would translate to around 1 to 1.1 million per year as YU-AMC has said... obviously different factors must be taken into account such as separation, modes of the operation, runway crossings etc...

as it is, the airspace in and around Hong Kong (heck, i read that much of China's airspace is complex) is already complex and adding a third runway only adds to that complexity, especially with missed approach procedures and breakout maneuvers... can't imagine how complicated everything would be once you have 4 runways...

Yes, the most pressing problem is how to liberalize the air space throughout China as much of it is restricted for military use. The added infrastructure means little when only a small number of flights can be accomodated in the air.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:25 PM   #4211
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Old February 1st, 2013, 10:38 PM   #4212
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 09:18 PM   #4213
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Malaysia Airlines will launch A380 service to Hong Kong from 1 May 2013 on the MH072/073 service. The airline also previously planned to introduce a third daily flight (MH432/433) from 15 June 2013; this plan remains unchanged at the moment following operational aircraft changes. Schedules:

MH072 KUL0915 – 1305HKG 380 D
MH432 KUL1540 – 1930HKG 738 D
MH078 KUL1915 – 2305HKG 738 D

MH079 HKG0845 – 1225KUL 738 D
MH073 HKG1445 – 1825KUL 380 D
MH433 HKG2030 – 0010+1KUL 738 D

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Old February 3rd, 2013, 04:52 AM   #4215
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what aircraft is currently operated for this flight?
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According to MH's Official Timetable, there is a discrepancy:

MH 072/073 currently operates with an A330-300
MH 078/079 currently operates with a B737-800; however, MH 079 is listed as EQV, meaning any aircraft could operate on the route, not just the B738.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 03:43 AM   #4217
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Qantas Plans Earlier Flights to Asia Amid Business Class Push
By David Fickling - Feb 4, 2013 7:47 AM GMT+0800

Qantas Airways Ltd. (QAN), Australia’s largest carrier, will fly seven Asian routes earlier in the day and cancel Frankfurt services sooner than planned amid a tie-up with Emirates.

Flights into Hong Kong, Singapore and Bangkok will be brought forward by as much as about four hours, using capacity freed up by the agreement with Emirates, the Sydney-based airline said in a regulatory statement. The airline is considering refurbishing its Airbus SAS A330 aircraft to include lie-flat beds in business class and add capacity to Singapore and Hong Kong, it said.

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Qantas is axing PER - HKG. But increasing BNE -HKG to a daily service.
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Here are the route change details for Hong Kong per their press release : http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...5486/global/en

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ROUTE	CHANGE	STARTS	Old dept/ arrival times (24hrs)	New dept/ arrival times (24hrs)
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Melbourne–Hong Kong	QF29 Melbourne-Hong Kong retimed to better connect to onward flights within Asia.	31 March 2013	1330 / 2100	0935 / 1710
Sydney–Hong Kong	QF127 Sydney-Hong Kong retimed. Services reduce from 11 per week to 7 per week (removal of QF87/88 Sydney-Hong Kong).	31 March 2013	1040 / 1745	0955 / 1725
Brisbane–Hong Kong	QF97/98 Brisbane-Hong Kong increased from four flights per week to five in May and to daily in June. All services retimed from 31 March 2013 to better connect to onward flights within Asia.	6 May 2013; 24 June 2013	1100 / 1755	1020 / 1725
Perth–Hong Kong	QF67/68 Perth-Hong Kong ceases to operate.	31 March 2013
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