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Old September 7th, 2015, 12:30 PM   #4801
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Works both ways. Cathay could've approached Qantas prior to going triple daily & 4 x daily from every Australian.

This conversation can go on and on, end of the day Qantas will continue to contribute to Oneworld and play its role in the alliance regardless of everyone's opinion...
Cathay is exercising its rights as a Hong Kong carrier as part of the Australia air services agreement. Qantas could have exercised its rights to increase flights as an Australian carrier. Neither needs approval of the other airline under the regulatory-approved rights.

What we are talking about is not regulator-approved rights, but economic synergies as part of the alliance. Qantas was the one hurting due to its mismanagement and had to revamp its international division. They should have reached out to its oneworld partners for help as a first priority, not the other way around. If they don't think their partners could assist in their turnaround, then they should have dropped out or get kicked out when they partnered outside the alliance in such a significant way.
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Old September 7th, 2015, 04:40 PM   #4802
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I wonder whether their agreement with EK had any non-compete clauses on this, and I would have thought they would drop out of oneworld at that point.
They can't just jump out of the agreement and change to QR. The agreement even stops QF from flying to Europe via SIN. When the 5 year agreement ends, they could change, but I don't see it as likely at all.

Remember, QF had a joint venture with BA. That wasn't fruitful, the relationship with CX was already sour, and we don't really know what initially caused this. MH is new to the alliance, but is at a relatively weak hub for premium traffic, and QR was not in the alliance.

There really was no logical Oneworld member to have a joint venture with. Don't blame QF for going with the strongest partner they could find, one that at the time was at a hub that wasn't close to alliance members. And, a venture that really only caters for Australia to Europe passengers. Sure, it might have hurt MH and CX, but at least for the latter, they didn't seem to want to join forces with QF anyway, and are by that basis competitors rather than allies.
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Old September 7th, 2015, 07:33 PM   #4803
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They can't just jump out of the agreement and change to QR. The agreement even stops QF from flying to Europe via SIN. When the 5 year agreement ends, they could change, but I don't see it as likely at all.

Remember, QF had a joint venture with BA. That wasn't fruitful, the relationship with CX was already sour, and we don't really know what initially caused this. MH is new to the alliance, but is at a relatively weak hub for premium traffic, and QR was not in the alliance.

There really was no logical Oneworld member to have a joint venture with. Don't blame QF for going with the strongest partner they could find, one that at the time was at a hub that wasn't close to alliance members. And, a venture that really only caters for Australia to Europe passengers. Sure, it might have hurt MH and CX, but at least for the latter, they didn't seem to want to join forces with QF anyway, and are by that basis competitors rather than allies.
QF and EK were sworn enemies and to get into bed with your worst enemy is quite testament to its relations with oneworld.

QF needed other airlines to help. If they couldn't get into a good relationship with its alliance carriers, mending fences would be the logical thing to do than to sleep with the enemy.
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Old September 8th, 2015, 07:30 AM   #4804
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QF and EK were sworn enemies and to get into bed with your worst enemy is quite testament to its relations with oneworld. QF needed other airlines to help. If they couldn't get into a good relationship with its alliance carriers, mending fences would be the logical thing to do than to sleep with the enemy.
Ever heard of "Keeping your friends close & your enemies closer"...

All this talk about being loyal applies to all carriers within the alliance so I guess AB should be kicked out considering they jumped into bed with EY and codeshare with VA. not to mention the financial trouble they are in at the moment they definitely didn't turn towards Oneworld for any assistance...

Like I said the discussions can go on and on... & it's obvious some of us are against QF...
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Old September 9th, 2015, 03:12 PM   #4805
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Ever heard of "Keeping your friends close & your enemies closer"...

All this talk about being loyal applies to all carriers within the alliance so I guess AB should be kicked out considering they jumped into bed with EY and codeshare with VA. not to mention the financial trouble they are in at the moment they definitely didn't turn towards Oneworld for any assistance...

Like I said the discussions can go on and on... & it's obvious some of us are against QF...
By getting in bed with its enemy, QF gave up its Europe network and conceded to Emirates. Doesn't seem like a partnership at all but an admission of defeat.

So is AB's actions as material on other alliance members as what QF has done with EK and MU?
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Old September 9th, 2015, 03:13 PM   #4806
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QANTAS ADDS MORE FLIGHTS TO HONG KONG AND MANILA
9th September 2015

Qantas will add more flights between Australia and Hong Kong and Manila as a result of increasing demand from travellers.

From 26 October 2015, Qantas will operate an additional four Sydney-Hong Kong services each week, on top of the current daily services available from Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.

Services from Sydney to Manila will increase from four to five per week between early December 2015 and late March 2016 to offer more capacity during the peak holiday season.

Qantas International CEO Gareth Evans said the airline was pleased to offer customers more choice to Hong Kong, on a route that is experiencing strong demand from customers.

“Customers travelling from Sydney will have the choice of double daily flights to Hong Kong on peak days of the week for business travel and we’ll look at expanding beyond that if the opportunity is available,” said Mr Evans.

The four new Sydney-Hong Kong services will be operated by Qantas’ refurbished A330 aircraft with lie-flat seats in Business and new Economy seats, the first time customers travelling on this route will experience the airline’s latest international product.
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Old September 10th, 2015, 08:39 AM   #4807
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By getting in bed with its enemy, QF gave up its Europe network and conceded to Emirates. Doesn't seem like a partnership at all but an admission of defeat. So is AB's actions as material on other alliance members as what QF has done with EK and MU?
Which Europe network we talking about here? If you refer to FRA that's not much of a European network to handover to EK considering it was a loss making route in the first place.

No different, AB could've codeshared with QF therefore perhaps there would've been a reason for QF to maintain a presence in "Europe" & even so would've been a struggle.

Other news it's great to see QF increase their SYD-HKG route to 11 x weekly. My understanding QF applied for daily, unfortunately slot constraint HKG airport has proven to its overdue to construct a 3rd runway.
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Old September 10th, 2015, 02:22 PM   #4808
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Which Europe network we talking about here? If you refer to FRA that's not much of a European network to handover to EK considering it was a loss making route in the first place.

No different, AB could've codeshared with QF therefore perhaps there would've been a reason for QF to maintain a presence in "Europe" & even so would've been a struggle.

Other news it's great to see QF increase their SYD-HKG route to 11 x weekly. My understanding QF applied for daily, unfortunately slot constraint HKG airport has proven to its overdue to construct a 3rd runway.
5th freedoms that were generously given to Qantas for SIN-LHR and HKG-LHR that were not reciprocated. But they were still unable to compete against EK while continuing to stay on the sidelines with CX. BA didn't have a hub in Asia anyway so co-operation would have been limited anyway.

Don't think slots are at issue. CX runs 4x a day to SYD. These are red-eye departures anyway and away from the most congested times of the day.
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Old September 10th, 2015, 04:57 PM   #4809
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New flight between Hong Kong and Madrid:
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Cathay Pacific extends European network with launch of new Madrid service

Summer 2016 schedule:
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Flight No  Routing  Departure  Arrival  Days of the week 
CX315      HKG-MAD  0045       0845     Tue, Thu, Sat, Sun
CX320      MAD-HKG  1225       0705+1   Tue, Thu, Sat, Sun
Winter 2016 schedule:
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Flight No  Routing  Departure  Arrival  Days of the week
CX315      HKG-MAD  0045       0810     Tue, Thu, Sat, Sun
CX320      MAD-HKG  1120       0705+1   Tue, Thu, Sat, Sun
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...ch-Madrid.html
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Old September 11th, 2015, 12:15 AM   #4810
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Old September 11th, 2015, 01:43 PM   #4811
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Hidden agenda for runway bond
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How the airport's third runway should be financed has been a cause for concern ever since the Executive Council gave the HK$141.5-billion project the green light early this year.

The main bone of contention was the construction fee to be levied on passengers.

Now, transport chief Anthony Cheung Bing-leung is saying the fee will be reduced from the HK$180 originally proposed, and charged in accordance to the different types of flights and seats.

That's a sensible approach. Even though the changes were somewhat expected, they should be welcome as they're being made in response to a public outcry that the HK$180 fee would be too expensive and unfair for short-haul and budget passengers.

The most eye-catching new scheme calls for retail bonds to be issued, which hadn't been part of the original plan.
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Old September 14th, 2015, 08:34 AM   #4812
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HKIA Sets Monthly Records for Passenger Volume and Flight Movements in August
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(HONG KONG, 13 September 2015) - Passenger volume and flight movements at Hong Kong International Airport (HKIA) reached new monthly highs in August. Passenger throughput rose 8.8% year on year to 6.3 million, breaking monthly record for the second consecutive month. Flight movements increased by 3.4% to 34,870, while cargo volume dropped by 1.2% to 361,000 tonnes compared to the same month last year.

The growth in passenger traffic in August was driven primarily by Hong Kong resident traffic and transfer/transit traffic, which registered 13% and 11% growth respectively over the same month last year. Passenger traffic to/from Southeast Asia and Japan recorded the most significant increases.

The decline in cargo throughput last month was mainly attributed to the 5% year-on-year drop in transshipments. Exports registered a slight growth while imports decreased by 1% compared to the same month last year. Amongst the key trading regions, Mainland China and Taiwan registered the most significant drop in the month. Traffic to/from Europe grew most significantly compared to other key regions.
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Old September 18th, 2015, 04:01 PM   #4814
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here you can find some info about Hong Kong airport, including the size of the airport

city-lines.com/project/hkg-hong-kong-chek-lap-kok-international-airport/
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Old September 21st, 2015, 03:51 PM   #4816
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Old September 24th, 2015, 04:20 PM   #4817
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S7 Airlines resumes flights Novosibirsk - Hong Kong
22 September 2015
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S7 Airlines, a member of the oneworld® global aviation alliance®, resumed flights Novosibirsk - Hong Kong from the 17th of September 2015.

Direct regular flights between Novosibirsk and Hong Kong will be operated every week on Thursdays. Departure from Novosibirsk at 00:15, arrival in Hong Kong at 08:55 local time. Return flight will depart at 09:55 and arrive in Novosibirsk at 15:25.

Flights will be operated on modern comfortable Boeing 737-800 liners equipped with economy and business class cabins.

S7 Airlines also performs flights to Hong Kong from Vladivostok, and during the winter season from the 25th of October 2015 the airline will resume flights from Irkutsk.
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